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As a side note, I’m not comfortable with the primer systems on any of my metallic cartridge progressive presses. They do not meet my reliability requriments as I cannot verify the primer has been properly seated before moving to the next step.

I don’t have any use for a progressive press that I don’t prime on especially for pistol rounds that I one pass loaded anyway.

More than 30 years ago I developed a habit on my SD’s where I palm the ball and squeeze the primers into place, using the steel blast tube shield. Much more feel than just a push.

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it looks on par with ebay prices

Maybe for what they used to cost.

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A quick look myself on eBay has the cheapest one at over $500 shipped.

The most expensive one is over $1000, well over current cost of new ones.

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Holy cow. I wonder if they are trying to price themselves out of the SDB market and have an excuse to drop it and its proprietary dies and specific parts.

That I don’t know but that would make it almost (only because I rarely say never :)) impossible to buy a new SD these days.

However, $100 off current prices for a new machine, especially right now, would be a “good deal”.
 
IMO, I doubt there's a better progressive press for pistol rounds out there. Especially if you're starting up and you don't have a ton of dies and gear anyway. I know mine knocked out 100k+ rounds in the years I had it. Gave it to a friend a few years back and he's assembled many a round on it as well.

It would be a shame if they discontinued it. I loved the small form factor and the compact size
 
Mark_Mark
Want to share that LGS info
Not at this time, or on the whole board. They have a good supply of most everything I need and I kinnda want to keep it that way. They also don’t sell online. But message me and I’ll drop you the shop me name
 
ok people... I think I can sneak away for 1 hour today to buy this...

so... .45 or .357? I don’t own any guns for them yet
 
Maximize your savings Mark Mark...Buy both since you sound like that’s the plan anyhow.

Ramen was specifically made for reloaders that can’t stay within budget.
 
Maximize your savings Mark Mark...Buy both since you sound like that’s the plan anyhow.

Ramen was specifically made for reloaders that can’t stay within budget.
you are such an enabler!

btw: I buy the good Ramen!
 
I don’t have any use for a progressive press that I don’t prime on especially for pistol rounds that I one pass loaded anyway.

More than 30 years ago I developed a habit on my SD’s where I palm the ball and squeeze the primers into place, using the steel blast tube shield. Much more feel than just a push.

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Maybe for what they used to cost.

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A quick look myself on eBay has the cheapest one at over $500 shipped.

The most expensive one is over $1000, well over current cost of new ones.

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I can’t believe how cheap things were in the mail order days
 
I'd go with the .357 personally, but that's one I already load for. Only you can answer that question for yourself. If you really plan on purchasing guns in both calibers and can swing the cost get both for sure. Remember: It's not about what you spent it's about what you saved!
 
I seen that you can buy the whole tool head thing and have everything ready. I like that! i’m going to buy it maybe tomorrow and post pics

Yep.

I have a 38 Special tool head with powder measure set up for the SDB. I just have not come up, nor have I given it much thought, a way to confirm that powder has been charged in the case. The 38 Special is too tall to see in from around the rest of the press.

Just one of my idiosyncrasies.
 
Yep.

I have a 38 Special tool head with powder measure set up for the SDB. I just have not come up, nor have I given it much thought, a way to confirm that powder has been charged in the case. The 38 Special is too tall to see in from around the rest of the press.

Just one of my idiosyncrasies.
that’s a scary thought! I normally charge my case separately and visually confirm the charge. I could do a sample every 20 rounds to verify.
 
I don’t have any use for a progressive press that I don’t prime on especially for pistol rounds that I one pass loaded anyway.

Another part for me to separate sizing from loading, I prefer to clean my cases after sizing but before loading. So, I've interrupted the progressive process anyway.

I do most of my hand gun case sizing on a Hornady L-N-L and shortly after shooting them. I can size 100 cases in 3 or 4 minutes. Small batches of cases go quick and do not overwhelm the tumbler. They get cleaned and then stored away for a future loading session when I have s substantial number of cases prepped.

I can prime 100 cases with my hand primer in about the same time as it takes to peck 100 primers into a primer tube. I'll admit that I really did not make much an effort to use the on press priming system. After attempting to seat 3000 or so primers with a 0.5%-1% failure rate and the associated mess, I decided to abandoned the "on press" priming systems entirely. It was not worth my time to fix the priming system when I had a process that I determined was not much slower with a 0% rework/clean-up rate due to the priming system.

When loading cases, I only have to watch powder charging and bullet seating. I do not use a case feeder or bullet feeder.

So, yes, I am probably losing a bit of efficiency and rate as what could be obtained with a progressive with all the bells an whistles, but I've eliminated things that frustrate me with progressive presses and I still load lots more ammunition in a short period of time than I can shoot.

It's what floats my boat.
 
Yep.

I have a 38 Special tool head with powder measure set up for the SDB. I just have not come up, nor have I given it much thought, a way to confirm that powder has been charged in the case. The 38 Special is too tall to see in from around the rest of the press.

Just one of my idiosyncrasies.

I use fine powders (Bullseye/231) and just watch the charge bar move. I haven't had a squib yet after tens of thousands of rounds.
 
Good investment if you only load pistol calibers. You’ll soon eat up those savings differences with conversion kits for every caliber.
Better investment is any of the other Dillon setups that will load anything with any standard 7/8 x14 dies and all you need is the shell plate and drop tube.

But that’s only an opinion and I’d buy a SD if one ever came my way used at 50% of new.
 
I just received notification from Midway that the Lyman All American Turrett press is in stock. It’s now $319 versus the $239 I saw it at a couple of weeks ago on the same site.

My plan was because it has eight stations that I was going to put a three die set up on there for both the 327 federal magnum and a 357 mag. I deprime/size and prime on a single stage and then move to the turret to bell, drop powder with a press mounted Little Dandy, seat, then crimp in a separate step.

The 8 stations would accommodate 6 dies and two little dandy’s perfectly.

That would free up one of the T7’s I have dedicated to .357 Mag and it would then go to a friends reloading room as his .45 Colt and 10MM press.

Anyway...one of the things I really like about this set up is the ability to verify that the powder dropped with each and every round (as you manually turn the knob on the little dandy and can see the powder level in the measure drop) without pulling the case off the press to look inside it.
 
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man, you hate me? you mad at me? dang bro

I’m just trying to see what people say about the Dillion Square B Deal

Spell Check. Type conver.......... and the dang thing will add what it wants. Drives me bonkers sometimes. I have to double check my single digit, as in one finger, typing several times before posting and I still make errors. :(
 
I just received notification from Midway that the Lyman All American Turrett press is in stock. It’s now $319 versus the $239 I saw it at a couple of weeks ago on the same site.

My plan was because it has eight stations that I was going to put a three die set up on there for both the 327 federal magnum and a 357 mag. I deprime/size and prime on a single stage and then move to the turret to bell, drop powder with a press mounted Little Dandy, seat, then crimp in a separate step.

The 8 stations would accommodate 6 dies and two little dandy’s perfectly.

That would free up one of the T7’s I have dedicated to .357 Mag and it would then go to a friends reloading room as his .45 Colt and 10MM press.

Anyway...one of the things I really like about this set up is the ability to verify that the powder dropped with each and every round (as you manually turn the knob on the little dandy and can see the powder level in the measure drop) without pulling the case off the press to look inside it.
I have the Lyman 8 turret press too. Love that thing because I load many different calibers at one time, leave it there and come back after testing!

Can you believe that I bought that press for around $150 american?
 
Another part for me to separate sizing from loading, I prefer to clean my cases after sizing but before loading. So, I've interrupted the progressive process anyway.

I do most of my hand gun case sizing on a Hornady L-N-L and shortly after shooting them. I can size 100 cases in 3 or 4 minutes. Small batches of cases go quick and do not overwhelm the tumbler. They get cleaned and then stored away for a future loading session when I have s substantial number of cases prepped.

I can prime 100 cases with my hand primer in about the same time as it takes to peck 100 primers into a primer tube. I'll admit that I really did not make much an effort to use the on press priming system. After attempting to seat 3000 or so primers with a 0.5%-1% failure rate and the associated mess, I decided to abandoned the "on press" priming systems entirely. It was not worth my time to fix the priming system when I had a process that I determined was not much slower with a 0% rework/clean-up rate due to the priming system.

When loading cases, I only have to watch powder charging and bullet seating. I do not use a case feeder or bullet feeder.

So, yes, I am probably losing a bit of efficiency and rate as what could be obtained with a progressive with all the bells an whistles, but I've eliminated things that frustrate me with progressive presses and I still load lots more ammunition in a short period of time than I can shoot.

It's what floats my boat.
I’m pretty good at QC on my process making bulk amounts of ammo on a turret and single.

I just really want a Dillion to say I have a Dillion
 
$3... dam! that’s poor house wages


You could get a new fully loaded F150 for $14,000 back then too.

My favorite BBQ place had a chop beef sandwich, fry’s and a drink for <$3.

Pythons were a few hundred dollars new vs a few thousand used...
 
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