New .22 rifle: Springfield 87a

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I have the slightly later 187M and it's a joy to shoot. Here's mine with my Savage 1907 pistol made back in 1913 that was the first double stack pistol made. It held 10 rounds and was the HiCap leader of the day.

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Nice score, have fun with it. I recently picked up a much abused later Springfield 187 series"A". Wrong breech plug, broken firing pin, broken rear sight , missing charging handle, finish falling off stock, rust, etc...
Just got it back together and hoping to shoot it this weekend weather permitting. DCP_4577.JPG DCP_4576.JPG
 
Fires from an open bolt? ATF must be scratching their heads. lol
Well, they were introduced long before any Federal firearms restrictions, but it doesnt FIRE from an open bolt, it CYCLES from an open bolt.

If you hold the trigger, the bolt will remain open until you release it.

When you release the trigger, the bolt goes into battery, but it doesnt fire until you pull the trigger again.
 
Picked up a 40’s Springfield 87a. Really cool little 22 rifle. What can you all tell me about it?



My Stevens 87 was my first "new" gun, at 15 yrs., and I bought it with the first money I earned working at 25 cents per hour at the family furniture store & plumbing business. (When I turned 16, they paid me 50 cents an hour and I thought I was "rich"!)

The 87 shot pretty well with iron sights and took out a lot of rats, but after I mounted a scope and shot it a lot, was deemed to not be very accurate, so was traded.

Funny, I just wrote on this board yesterday about the lousy grouping from my rifle, after gazillions of rounds through it. I traded it in on another rifle and traded several times a year until college, when I had a 39A Mountie that stuck with me for several years and into marriage.
 
They do have a tendency to go full auto, they empty a tube mag in seconds.

The rifles trigger doesn’t use a disconnector but rather plungers that hold the bolt open after firing as the plunger wears it becomes an open bolt machine gun as there is nothing holding the bolt to the rear when holding the trigger back after firing.

Another name for them are “gill guns” due to the vents on the side of the action.
 
They do have a tendency to go full auto, they empty a tube mag in seconds.

The rifles trigger doesn’t use a disconnector but rather plungers that hold the bolt open after firing as the plunger wears it becomes an open bolt machine gun as there is nothing holding the bolt to the rear when holding the trigger back after firing.

Another name for them are “gill guns” due to the vents on the side of the action.

Is it just me or does that sound kind of cool
 
Is it just me or does that sound kind of cool

Those are VERY easy to make full auto, which is probably why they don't make that design anymore. Don't think the ATF would approve something like that in today's world.

I always kind of liked them for the uniqueness.
 
I have a Savage 6D, earlier model, and one that is only marked "22 Long Rifle, greased, smokeless". The one feature I like is the two cutouts on the left side of the receiver for the bolt. The forward one, you can lock the bolt to fire single shot, the rear one you can lock the bolt open to deal with a jam, clean, make safe, etc.
 
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I had one and liked it. was a full sized .22. worked great. ONE CAUTION don't load the magazine with bolt locked back !!! With the bolt locked back the ctg. lift is up and rounds from the mag will get under it preventing the bolt to close . Just make sure the bolt is closed when loading the tube magazine and your good . hdbiker
 
They do have a tendency to go full auto, they empty a tube mag in seconds.

The rifles trigger doesn’t use a disconnector but rather plungers that hold the bolt open after firing as the plunger wears it becomes an open bolt machine gun as there is nothing holding the bolt to the rear when holding the trigger back after firing.

Another name for them are “gill guns” due to the vents on the side of the action.
I never had the "machine-gunning" failure of mine, but the trigger eventually failed, so I basically dismantled it and threw the gun away.
 
ONE CAUTION don't load the magazine with bolt locked back !!!

I pulled mine out of the safe a few weeks ago and had forgotten this, LOL. Have to take it apart to get the rounds out of the stock so it will work properly.

Also had it go full auto once when a screw loosened up. It dumped the magazine in a second.
 
I never liked the trigger mechanism because it held the bolt back after firing and it went forward after the trigger was released, resulting in a "clunky" action compared with other semi-autos.
 
The click-clack action is a feature that some people really like.

Me, I don't care either way. Still a cool rifle. And can shoot really quiet rounds because it can be shot in single shot mode by locking the bolt.
 
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