I hate to hear that about the 800X. I like it as well and luckily have 2 cans left. Ill be using it sparingly. I have a can of Blue Dot but have not tried it yet. I have a bunch of hard cast 180gr. and 200gr. SWC's. anybody have a pet load for them??
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I like Unique for target. Shoots well and works That Beast of a 10MM Glock model 40MOS very well. it works in all the configurations that I have that includes 9inch LW barrel, Threaded 6-1\4 barrel with a compensator, and a Meckteck carbine conversion rifle. I use Long Shot, and Blue Dot for high powered FMJ 180 gr. and XTP Hollow Point.
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,Rock185,
My order from egw came in. Functions well. Will have to try it this weekend. Thx
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I think it's an awesome round...Except no LGS I've walked into in this neck of the woods has ever had it in abundance nor for an attractive price . Therefore the Holy Grail loses its ultimate holiness with me...
I have carried 1911's for decades and always had an inkling to buy a long slide (6") barrel. Kept getting sidetracked a couple of hundred times by different firearms and life. I finally bought my 1911 with a 6" barrel in a 10mm, the TRP by Springfield. If I have to complain about the 10mm it is that it becomes very difficult to reload your once fired brass because it seems to eject it to the next county.
At the moment I have been carrying a 686 revolver as my CC and I'll be darn if I am now reconsidering carrying a 10mm with a brand that has never appealed to me until now.
Kimber, I have never liked them, until they came out with the Black Ice Rapide. This particular gun to me is what the blue pill is to men who need help down south. I like the look very much. Congratulations on your purchase and a great looking gun at that too.
At the moment I have been carrying a 686 revolver as my CC and I'll be darn if I am now reconsidering carrying a 10mm with a brand that has never appealed to me until now.
Kimber, I have never liked them, until they came out with the Black Ice Rapide. This particular gun to me is what the blue pill is to men who need help down south. I like the look very much. Congratulations on your purchase and a great looking gun at that too.
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Crazy Horse, hope your new set up works well. I've used similar on three or four guns with no issues.
Crazy Horse FWIW, I've reloaded the 10 pretty much since dies became available. While I've used several powders, to include 800X and Blue Dot, a couple of other slower powders gave the highest velocities with least indications of high pressure in my guns. After a lot of years, Accurate Arms #7 and #9 have proven themselves to me in loading for the 10MM. For the most energetic loads, the slowest of the two, AA-9, is the one I use. Another characteristic of the AA powders that I appreciate, is that they flow through powder measures like water, leading to very consistent performance.
Crazy Horse FWIW, I've reloaded the 10 pretty much since dies became available. While I've used several powders, to include 800X and Blue Dot, a couple of other slower powders gave the highest velocities with least indications of high pressure in my guns. After a lot of years, Accurate Arms #7 and #9 have proven themselves to me in loading for the 10MM. For the most energetic loads, the slowest of the two, AA-9, is the one I use. Another characteristic of the AA powders that I appreciate, is that they flow through powder measures like water, leading to very consistent performance.
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I don't know how I've not noticed this 10mm post sooner. Looks like I'm late to the party again, but I'll chime in nonetheless.
I wasn't either, until the 10mm came along.
I had read numerous stories about the recoil of the 10mm "planet destroyer" was unbearable/unmanageable, after all the FBI dumped it as untenable. But I nonetheless was intrigued and took a chance and jumped in with both feet. Not only did I find the recoil of the 10mm quite tolerable, I became hooked on exploring just how much recoil I could tolerate. Man, the 10mm was a gateway "drug" for me. Really hot 44RM and really fast 460S&W Mag handloads are a thrill!
But I always come back to the 10mm. It has replaced the 40S&W as my favorite handgun caliber. I thoroughly enjoy loading and shooting the 10mm, and I especially enjoy shooting it out of my M610.
I agree with this. My preferred powders in order of preference are Universal, Longshot, AA#9, 2400 and Blue Dot.
Me too, 40S&W out of my XDM-10 all day long, but 10mm is so much more enjoyable!
Blue Dot gives me the best all-round 10mm performance, though I've never had the opportunity to try 800x. I'll PM some load data. There is an abundance of 10mm reloading info over at the 10mm-firearms forum.
Ditto on the next county thing. No amount of futzing with recoil springs or a square edged firing pin stops has helped me mitigate this issue. Only the M610 has solved this problem for me.
I wasn't either, until the 10mm came along.
I had read numerous stories about the recoil of the 10mm "planet destroyer" was unbearable/unmanageable, after all the FBI dumped it as untenable. But I nonetheless was intrigued and took a chance and jumped in with both feet. Not only did I find the recoil of the 10mm quite tolerable, I became hooked on exploring just how much recoil I could tolerate. Man, the 10mm was a gateway "drug" for me. Really hot 44RM and really fast 460S&W Mag handloads are a thrill!
But I always come back to the 10mm. It has replaced the 40S&W as my favorite handgun caliber. I thoroughly enjoy loading and shooting the 10mm, and I especially enjoy shooting it out of my M610.
I agree with this. My preferred powders in order of preference are Universal, Longshot, AA#9, 2400 and Blue Dot.
Me too, 40S&W out of my XDM-10 all day long, but 10mm is so much more enjoyable!
Now you're ready for bear in Alaska!
Try shooting some 40sw out of it. It shouldn't work but it do.
My 10mm:
Blue Dot gives me the best all-round 10mm performance, though I've never had the opportunity to try 800x. I'll PM some load data. There is an abundance of 10mm reloading info over at the 10mm-firearms forum.
Ditto on the next county thing. No amount of futzing with recoil springs or a square edged firing pin stops has helped me mitigate this issue. Only the M610 has solved this problem for me.
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ms6852,
I've only seen 6 inch 1911's, but have never fired them. I don't know the weight, but I'm thinking they may be front heavy. They look nice, but I've been quite happy with 5 and 4.25 inch 1911's.
LoL. I will agree with you on how it ejects. I have had the luxury of shooting at time when I'm either the only one in the range, or there's only one other person inside the range. So that's a good thing. It is my first 10mm, and while I do love it, I don't think I'll get another as I'm trying to avoid the quandry I have sometimes with my 9mm's as to which one to take to the range. By having only this one, it ensures that when I do go to the range and take 10mm, there's only one to choose from. I know, first world problems. LoL. On the reloading side, I have found out that (and this is a guess) 10mm can cause case bulge. I reloaded about 100 10mm rounds and went to the range. 2 of them got stuck in the barrel and wouldn't fire. When I cleared the round, I noticed some bulging on the reloaded case. I've only experienced this with 40 S&W on cases I purchased in bulk. I did the same for these 10mm cases, so I'll be running them through my bulge buster to get the bulge out. The other frustration -and this is becuase I purchased 1k of 10mm brass) is that some manufacturers are using SPPs. This makes reloading a pain. I thought that 10mm was only made in LPP. I guess just like 45acp, some manufacturers are making cartridges that have been traditionally LPP into cases with SPP. So, I'll have to be more careful when reloading.
I've seen the Black Ice Rapide, and Kimber does make nice 1911's. Right now though, finding a Kimber in 10mm for under 1k a bit of a challenge. I read somewhere that Kimber is in the process of moving their factory further south where there is less restriction. Maybe this will alleviate some of their problems. I obtained a Kimber 9mm 1911 during the holidays and it is NICE. I'm hoping to eventually find a Kimber in 45acp. I did see some at BPS, but then this 10mm came around.
Thanks again.
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Rock185,
Have you tried HS-6? I have a can of that as well as BE-86. I was looking at W231 as I have some of that type of powder as well. Due to powder shortages, I'm trying to keep from going on a powder hunt and use what I have in hand. Hopefully, in the near future more powder choices will become available. I have WST, which works awesome in my 45acp and 40 S&W loads, but there's no published data for 10mm. I have used it in 9mm with good results, but I had to refer to an older publication for those loads. I can see why Winchester pulled the 9mm load data as the powder charges sat quite high on the case. 10mm though is a longer and large case. I'll definitely have to look for some AA as I've only used Alliant and Hodgdon powders.
Thanks again for the recommendation on the plunger. It took a minute to figure out how to do it as the spring on the 10mm is thick, but it functions fine. A very good reason to go to the range and check how it fires.
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I never even considered 10mm as a cartridge I would own or shoot regularly until I started loading my own ammo. In fact it was one of the first rounds I learned to load. New brass is a little spendy, but loading your own really makes 10mm doable, along with several other cartridges. It's also what made me interested in 38 Super, which is a vastly underutilized and under appreciated ESC cartridge.
Man oh man do I want a SA XDs chambered in 38 Super. The 45 frame is big enough to house it.
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Sparkyv,
I did a little more trolling on why the FBI dropped the 10mm. I guess further studies indicated that it was not so much the recoil, as it was that they couldn't get back on target fast enough with the 10mm. That I can understand. It does take a little longer to get back on target after firing a shot with the 10mm vs 40 S&W. Which still by the way, takes longer than the 9mm. Overall, I like the 180gr projectiles best. They seem to fire well and carry more mass than 9mm (even at 147gr). In 45acp, I lean towards 200gr projectiles up to 1000fps on my PCC. It would seem like 180-200 is the sweet spot (to me).
Yesterday I took my XDM in 40 S&W with me as well as my 10mm, where I normally take a 9mm an a 40. After shooting the 10mm, going to the 40 was like shooting a 9mm. I was much quicker on follow-ups. I guess that's what the FBI was getting at.
Overall Very happy with my choice.
THX
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I've been waiting for them to chamber their 3.8" XDM in 10mm. No luck so far. I have a lot more interest in it than a G29.
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A SIG P320 in 10mm would be the cat's meow! Rumor is that it's in the works.
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If it's a compact version I'll be all over it.
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Heck Yeah!! and one in 10mm would be great while they're at it!!
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Well why we are at it...Come on Sig!!
I already have 2 of your P220's in 10mm!! Step up to the polymer plate!!
I am down to my last 4 lbs. of 800X. I still have several pounds of Accurate No. 9 as well, but have never used it in 10mm. Is it a decent replacement for 800X?
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Exactamundo. I've actually thought about having a 9mm version reamed. I think the pressures would be alright except on top end 38 super. May beat the gun apart though. Maybe not.
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Works good for 200gr bullets but 800x can really get the 180’s moving with excellent accuracy
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14.0 GR's of AA-9, is a very good load for the 10mm, 180 GR. JHP. This is my standard load. It's snappy but does the job.
Hey Crazy Horse I noticed you are in my neck of the woods. There are two ranges I go to that are close to me, one is Dietz Shooting Range where I am a member and another that I go on occasion is Lonestar Handgun. You ever one to try a long slide 1911 I invite you to shoot mine. It really is nice and smooth. I've been carry full size steel guns all my life I really do not notice that my 10mm is forward heavy. Since I am retired I can meet anytime except Mondays and Tuesdays. I'm in New Braunfel at Dietz Shooting range which is closed to the public but opened to members only. PM if you wish.
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Great. I've only seen Dietz range riding by. Never tried it. I am a member at Buc&Does in San Antonio. Have not had a bad experience at any range except Mcqueeny Gun club. They watch shooters like a hawk. Don't allow reloads and don't allow you to pickup your brass. Is Dietz an outdoor range? I have come to notice that outdoor ranges don't leave my ears ringing after a session. Tied up this weekend but I'll definitely let you know.
Thanks again.
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Thanks again.
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I was so tired of having to get on my hands and knees and crawl around in the grass looking for brass so I bought a 10’ x 10’ plastic tarp and laid it out and I stand about 2’ down the left edge and all my brass ends up on the tarp. When I’m done shooting I just fold it up from the corners and collect my brass......easy peazy!!
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