Shipping Ammunition

BigBlue 94 · Mar 22, 2021

Was handed this lovely little sheet about shipping ammunition. I had issues finding exactly how to label things with lots of contradictory info.

Straight from the lovely folks at my Fedex Express location.

In essence, it must have the Limited Quantity Diamond, points up. Then on two sides it must have written: Ammunition, Small Arms Cartridges, and ORM-D in a rectangle.

Hope this helps somebody else too

Dale Alan · Mar 22, 2021

Thanks for posting that , glad that clears things up .

H&R Glock · Mar 22, 2021

Huh?

tark · Mar 22, 2021

I have only shipped ammo twice in my life and both times I told Fed Ex it was engine parts.

Rubone · Mar 22, 2021

I just received some from an individual via UPS, had an ORM-D sticker but no description of contents. It arrived no issue.

BigBlue 94 · Mar 22, 2021

Rubone said:
I just received some from an individual via UPS, had an ORM-D sticker but no description of contents. It arrived no issue.

Exactly the kind of thing i've run across. But according to federal laws, the ORM-D is no longer valid and the limited quantity diamond took its place. So i had just that and my printed shipping label on my package and asked the manager there if it was right. They got me sorted out.

Do it however you choose, but I prefer to stay withing the legal realm!

Sniper66 · Mar 22, 2021

I've shipped ammo twice with UPS. Both times they added the necessary labels. I typed in the address in their computer and they printed it out and attached everything to the package. No sweat.

milsurpguy · Mar 23, 2021

I take ammo all boxed up ready to go to a UPS customer service location, not a UPS store and tell them it's ammo and they take care of the rest.

FFGColorado · Mar 23, 2021

Rubone said:
I just received some from an individual via UPS, had an ORM-D sticker but no description of contents. It arrived no issue.

I just sent some via UPS..they need the triangle but no description on the box. Just received some from Midway ammo, and I actually used the same box..same small triangle, just added a address label..

I have a UPS account, while doing the label, they ask for contents, I put in 38Super ammunition and it all goes very smoothly..

hartman23foscari · Mar 23, 2021

ive gone to fedex multiple times. ive shipped ammo in just a box gave them the info. They handled proper labelling for me, guess im lucky.

1942bull · Mar 23, 2021

I have also shipped ammo several times using UPS. I did have one problem the first time I did it. I took it to a UPS Store. The manager there told me that they do not accept ammo for shipment and that I would have to go to a UPS service agent to ship it. I then took it to Staples which does service UPS, and they affixed the proper labels and accepted the shipment. I buy most of my ammo online. Everyone I buy from ships it UPS.

By the way I never looked into the U)S Store rejection. It might have been a fluke or maybe the Stores have different policies.

daniel craig · Mar 23, 2021

I just let the FFL deal with that.

Rubone · Mar 23, 2021

1942bull said:
I have also shipped ammo several times using UPS. I did have one problem the first time I did it. I took it to a UPS Store. The manager there told me that they do not accept ammo for shipment and that I would have to go to a UPS service agent to ship it. I then took it to Staples which does service UPS, and they affixed the proper labels and accepted the shipment. I buy most of my ammo online. Everyone I buy from ships it UPS.

By the way I never looked into the U)S Store rejection. It might have been a fluke or maybe the Stores have different policies.

The guy I just got ammo from said he has to take it to the UPS facility, not a UPS store which is just a shipping contractor.

dogtown tom · Mar 23, 2021

BigBlue 94 said:
Was handed this lovely little sheet about shipping ammunition. I had issues finding exactly how to label things with lots of contradictory info.

Straight from the lovely folks at my Fedex Express location.

View attachment 986725

In essence, it must have the Limited Quantity Diamond, points up. Then on two sides it must have written: Ammunition, Small Arms Cartridges, and ORM-D in a rectangle.

Hope this helps somebody else too

That document is odd because it doesn't agree with FedEx tariffs: https://www.fedex.com/en-us/service-guide/terms/express-ground-samedaycity.html
Express terms:

G. FedEx Express will transport ammunition when packed and labeled in compliance with local, state and federal law, and the Dangerous Goods section of this Service Guide. Ammunition is an explosive and must be shipped separately as dangerous goods. You agree not to ship loaded firearms or firearms with ammunition in the same package.

Ground terms:

G. FedEx Ground will transport small-arms ammunition when packed and labeled in compliance with local, state and federal law, and the Hazardous Materials section of this Service Guide. Ammunition is an explosive and must be shipped separately as hazardous materials. You agree not to ship loaded firearms or firearms with ammunition in the same package.

Further "ORM-D Small Arms Cartridges" is no longer a legal DOT marking: https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/training/hazmat/orm-d-phase-out ......all that is required is the LQ diamond.

dogtown tom · Mar 23, 2021

FFGColorado said:
I have a UPS account, while doing the label, they ask for contents, I put in 38Super ammunition and it all goes very smoothly..

I've had a UPS account for twenty years, been an FFL for twelve, ship guns every weeks and ammunition at least twice a month.........never once on UPS.com have I seen a place to list "contents".

Are you actually shipping with UPS (a customer service center/depot) or using a UPS account# at a UPS Store? UPS Stores aren't UPS...they are franchises and as such prohibited by UPS policy from accepting ammunition or firearm shipments:
https://www.ups.com/us/en/help-cent...nts/firearms.page?srch_pos=3&srch_phr=handgun

Getting Your Ammunition Shipment to UPS
Cartridges, small arms may be shipped only through a UPS Scheduled Pickup Account using various UPS pickup services, or through a UPS Customer Center (counters at UPS operational facilities). Note: Cartridges, small arms are not accepted for shipment via UPS Drop Boxes, and may not be tendered to or dropped off at locations of The UPS Store® or any third party retailer or UPS Access Point™ location.

dogtown tom · Mar 23, 2021

1942bull said:
I have also shipped ammo several times using UPS. I did have one problem the first time I did it. I took it to a UPS Store. The manager there told me that they do not accept ammo for shipment and that I would have to go to a UPS service agent to ship it. I then took it to Staples which does service UPS, and they affixed the proper labels and accepted the shipment. I buy most of my ammo online. Everyone I buy from ships it UPS.

By the way I never looked into the U)S Store rejection. It might have been a fluke or maybe the Stores have different policies.

See above.
If your package was lost, stolen, damaged or missing contents....UPS can rightfully deny any claim because you violated their terms of service.

FFGColorado · Mar 23, 2021

dogtown tom said:
I've had a UPS account for twenty years, been an FFL for twelve, ship guns every weeks and ammunition at least twice a month.........never once on UPS.com have I seen a place to list "contents".

Are you actually shipping with UPS (a customer service center/depot) or using a UPS account# at a UPS Store? UPS Stores aren't UPS...they are franchises and as such prohibited by UPS policy from accepting ammunition or firearm shipments:
https://www.ups.com/us/en/help-cent...nts/firearms.page?srch_pos=3&srch_phr=handgun

using an UPS account, then taking it to a UPS warehouse, drop off office. No UPS store involved.

JTHunter · Mar 23, 2021

Listing "Ammunition" on two sides (according to these restrictions), would that be like putting on the package "STEAL ME !" ??

Rubone · Mar 23, 2021

JTHunter said:
Listing "Ammunition" on two sides (according to these restrictions), would that be like putting on the package "STEAL ME !" ??

Many suppliers just ship cases in the manufacturers box, logos and content descriptions printed on the boxes. I have received many shipped that way.

George P · Mar 23, 2021

As have I, even primers and powder that way as well.

BigBlue 94 · Mar 23, 2021

I dealt with the local FedEx express hub that ive shipped 50+ packages from in the last few years. They know me. I use an account as well

I took said package out to the FE ground hub and she checked for both the diamond and the ammo, small arms, orm-d written on two sides.

If someone steals the ammo from the box, its on FedEx.

dogtown tom · Mar 23, 2021

George P said:
As have I, even primers and powder that way as well.

"That way" being how? :scrutiny:

Primers and gunpowder are a completely different category in DOT than cartridges.

wankerjake · Mar 23, 2021

UPS customer center is awesome, they affix the labels for you, couldn’t be easier

There is a place to enter contents and if you are shipping ammunition you tell them it’s ammo and they do the labels

Navy87Guy · Mar 23, 2021

That's a handy primer on how FedEx ships ammo. And it's enough to make me want to keep using UPS!

BigBlue 94 · Mar 23, 2021

Navy87Guy said:
That's a handy primer on how FedEx ships ammo. And it's enough to make me want to keep using UPS!

Sure is, thats why I posted it.

I dont use UPS because they are 30% more expensive, have a lower "overweight" limit, and are a touch slower, or at least were in normal times.

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