The Blackest Black Rifle?

Is that a .50 cal?

I thought the magazine looked longer than a .308. Nice looking rifle though.

Isn’t the FAL called “The right arm of the free world” or something cool like that? That’s one nice piece of machinery there!

Stay safe.

wiscoaster said:

Is the mighty FAL the world's blackest "black rifle"?? I dunno, but this one sure can SHOOT!! I picked it up recently off Gunbroker from a guy that builds these from Steyr STG-58 parts kits and DSA SA-58 receivers.

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What a beauty! On my list of rifles to buy. Good luck with it!

My uncle has a Np3 coated custom something or other DSA-SA58 that he ordered like 15 years ago, even back then he had to wait almost a year to get it and paid $3K. It is an impressive piece of engineering, I can see very well how Mr. Browning and Mr. Saive were colleagues or peers or whatever. It feels rugged enough to survive a nuclear blast.... I just never warmed up to them. Top heavy, weird balance, never liked the SAW style grip, rips brass to ribbons, etc...

But I see why people love em. Very capable weapon. I always think of red sand, African warlord/despot with an army of FAL weilding fighting forces....

Very cool, Wis, glad you like it!

Ive come within a hairs breath of getting a FAL a few times, but never took the plunge. Now, of course, Im fully invested in the AR10 platform, which is probably the most practical choice for a .308 battle-rifle, but they just lack the soul of a FAL or G3.........

Riomouse911 said:

Isn’t the FAL called “The right arm of the free world” or something cool like that? That’s one nice piece of machinery there!

Stay safe.

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I've heard FALs referred to by that name before but never thought of them as "The Blackest Black Rifle". I like it. I've always liked the way they shoot, especially the 7.62 cartridge and wanted one for a long time. These days, I've got other priorities though. More for the rest of you!

DustyGmt said:

My uncle has a Np3 coated custom something or other DSA-SA58 that he ordered like 15 years ago, even back then he had to wait almost a year to get it and paid $3K. It is an impressive piece of engineering, I can see very well how Mr. Browning and Mr. Saive were colleagues or peers or whatever. It feels rugged enough to survive a nuclear blast.... I just never warmed up to them. Top heavy, weird balance, never liked the SAW style grip, rips brass to ribbons, etc...

But I see why people love em. Very capable weapon. I always think of red sand, African warlord/despot with an army of FAL weilding fighting forces....

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My only experience up close seeing armed forces with FALs was in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico about 15 years ago. I boarded a plane for a flight back to Los Angeles and for some reason it got routed away from the terminal and parked about 1/4 mile away. We all were ordered to leave our carryons in place and get off the plane, so we went down the portable stair setup to a waiting bus. To board the bus they had us walk between two rows of some haphazardly-uniformed teenaged soldiers armed with FALs; fingers on triggers, muzzle-sweeping us, etc. It was NOT a comfortable feeling at all.

For whatever reasons still unknown we were driven back to the terminal. We were told not to leave the gate area so we waited there for about an hour and a half. Ultimately the plane came back over and we reboarded. After that escapade the flight was rather uneventful.

I assumed there was a load of dope on the plane somewhere they were looking for, but that’s just a guess.

Stay safe.

I got my DSA medium contour when they first came out, love it. I always wanted one of the Belgian imports back in the early 80's they were out of my price range at the time ($1800.00+/-).
"The right arm of the free world" (over 90 countries had adopted it). Another quote for it I like is "Fal's for the classes, AK's for the masses"

That is nice! I've always wanted one! Either that or a G3.

Riomouse911 said:

My only experience up close seeing armed forces with FALs was in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico about 15 years ago. I boarded a plane for a flight back to Los Angeles and for some reason it got routed away from the terminal and parked about 1/4 mile away. We all were ordered to leave our carryons in place and get off the plane, so we went down the portable stair setup to a waiting bus. To board the bus they had us walk between two rows of some haphazardly-uniformed teenaged soldiers armed with FALs; fingers on triggers, muzzle-sweeping us, etc. It was NOT a comfortable feeling at all.

For whatever reasons still unknown we were driven back to the terminal. We were told not to leave the gate area so we waited there for about an hour and a half. Ultimately the plane came back over and we reboarded. After that escapade the flight was rather uneventful.

I assumed there was a load of dope on the plane somewhere they were looking for, but that’s just a guess.

Stay safe.

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Thats Mexico for sure ! I was pulled out of a line returning from a month long with my wife in Jan 2020 and had my phone "scanned" by some brief case sized device while my wife , who speaks Spanish, was shuffle away to the plane. I have limited Spanish ability but wondered how they would react to the thousands of Gun pictures and sensitive phone #s on my phone so I pulled out my Military ID , which is valid forever as a retiree and has CWO2 as rank on it and demanded a supervisor who spoke English . Like a parting of the waters I was hustled to the plane and the red light on the scanning device was turned off and stopped before finishing !
BTW I have two FNFALs one built on a Steyr 58 kit with an Imbel reciever and the other an Austrailian English pattern with an Imbel Metric receiver , both use Metric mags but the Aussie will take English mags, They were built by Arizona Response Systems years ago and the Steyr is by far the most accurate, a 2MOA rifle with an ACOG 4x .

wiscoaster said:

Is the mighty FAL the world's blackest "black rifle"??

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It's like, how much more black could this be? And the answer is none. None more black.

I dunno - mine wears wood

Black Rifles are always nice to keep around, do some blasting with.

One of my favorites was the Galil AR that I had, wish I still had it.


This is a stock photo as I don't have any pics of mine. Probably one of the best battle rifles ever made.

mgmorden said:

I dunno - mine wears wood

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That's awesome! I have enjoyed shooting the 3 I've gotten a chance to shoot. Definitely on my "to get" list.

can you link to his page, or PM me? Looking for one of these

The one I had the most experience with was painted in a garish yellow & green, and had not a spec of black about it.

Some time ago, within the span of a month I bought the DSA Stg58 FAL, Springfield loaded M1A and a PTR-91. I played with all of them for a bit. I still have the FAL, I sold the others.

DustyGmt said:

never liked the SAW style grip, rips brass to ribbons, etc...

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The Rhodesians cut them off.

DustyGmt said:

But I see why people love em. Very capable weapon. I always think of red sand, African warlord/despot with an army of FAL weilding fighting forces....

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Yeah, well, apparently, the South Africans had plenty of them and shipped sanitized (no markings) versions to the Rhodesians, so there must be a more than a few floating around Africa. Ian over at Forgotten Weapons did a pretty good briefing on the Rhodesian version.

A bit of black, I suppose.


All three homebuilt.

Conelrad

Riomouse911 said:

I assumed there was a load of dope on the plane somewhere they were looking for, but that’s just a guess

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I would have assumed the opposite. They were looking for a place to stash a load of dope and didn't want any of you seeing it.

I'm not sure they're the black-est. I usually picture them wearing wood when I daydream.