45acp long guns--what are the options?

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This here: https://www.tnwfirearms.com/product-p/asrx-cplt-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx.htm.
I had the Marlin camp carbine and the Thompson(pistol 10" bbl.). and sold them both.
The Marlin because the mag housing and trigger group were made from some type of plastic/resin?. The buffer would breakdown over time not related to shooting it though. One other thing is it only took 1911 mags.
I sold the Thompson because NJ banned them, after I purchased it with a NJ pistol permit!
The Aero by TNW now comes as a pistol w brace.
The Aero Survival Rifle, famous for its removable barrel and easily convertible caliber changes, is a winner in home defense, backpacking, boating, and back country flying. The Aero Survival Rifle is available in hard black anodize, OD Green, and Dark Earth. The ASR can be ordered in 9mm, .45 ACP, .40, 10mm, .357SIG calibers and the newly available .22LR and 460 Rowland. The ASR is also coming soon in .22 MAG, and .17 HMR. The ASR is equipped with a quick change barrel, and AR collapsible stock*. The Aero Survival Pistol is also available in similar colors and calibers.
The .45 takes Glock 21 mags or 30 round aftermarket.
They are about 10-14 weeks behind and about $800.00 MSRP. I got mine for $579.00 five years ago.
 
It would be interesting in an AR if there were reliable high cap magazines available. It would be a perfect SBR.
 
My 45AARP long gun is a marlin camp carbine, as it takes 1911 mags.
The mountain of 45 I reloaded over the years was intended for 1911 so they are hot and I had to put the stronger nearly 20lb recoil spring in the marlin to keep the bolt from slamming to the rear.
But I dont think the camp carbine has been made for about 20 years.
 
Marlin Camp Carbines are really cool, but not worth what they run today IMO, especially in 45 ACP. But if you got a generous tax return this year, they may be worth checking out.

Hi-Point rifles are cheap and cheerful blasters all the way, and while they are made of the same material as their pistols, they tend to function a lot better. The limitations with them are proprietary 10 round mags and triggers that are never going to be good, but for $350 pre-craziness, those are tradeoffs worth taking at least for me. Slap a cheap TRS-25 type red dot on them and go have fun.
 
Here’s my .45 ACP thumper. It’s built on an TC Encore frame with a MGM 18” barrel. The muzzle threads are 0.75x24 to make them extra strong. Standard 230 grain FMJ is easily subsonic. It’s a great gun! Kind of sounds like someone hitting a steel pipe with a rubber mallet when it goes off.

Dan
 

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Dan Forrester said:
Here’s my .45 ACP thumper. It’s built on an TC Encore frame with a MGM 18” barrel. The muzzle threads are 0.75x24 to make them extra strong. Standard 230 grain FMJ is easily subsonic. It’s a great gun! Kind of sounds like someone hitting a steel pipe with a rubber mallet when it goes off.

Dan
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That looks like a lot of fun. What’s the can?
 
It’s a silencerco octane 45. Yes it’s a lot of fun! And no need to reload special subsonic ammo. Any .45 acp 230 grain is subsonic. MGM who made the barrel said it’s perfectly safe to fire .45 super out of it too. My only complaint about the gun is that it’s heavy.

Dan
 
hk940 said:
This here: https://www.tnwfirearms.com/product-p/asrx-cplt-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx.htm.
I had the Marlin camp carbine and the Thompson(pistol 10" bbl.). and sold them both.
The Marlin because the mag housing and trigger group were made from some type of plastic/resin?. The buffer would breakdown over time not related to shooting it though. One other thing is it only took 1911 mags.
I sold the Thompson because NJ banned them, after I purchased it with a NJ pistol permit!
The Aero by TNW now comes as a pistol w brace.
The Aero Survival Rifle, famous for its removable barrel and easily convertible caliber changes, is a winner in home defense, backpacking, boating, and back country flying. The Aero Survival Rifle is available in hard black anodize, OD Green, and Dark Earth. The ASR can be ordered in 9mm, .45 ACP, .40, 10mm, .357SIG calibers and the newly available .22LR and 460 Rowland. The ASR is also coming soon in .22 MAG, and .17 HMR. The ASR is equipped with a quick change barrel, and AR collapsible stock*. The Aero Survival Pistol is also available in similar colors and calibers.
The .45 takes Glock 21 mags or 30 round aftermarket.
They are about 10-14 weeks behind and about $800.00 MSRP. I got mine for $579.00 five years ago.
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I have the pistol version. Very accurate and reliable.
 
I bought a Mech Tech CCU when they first came out for my 1911. It is very accurate and fun to shoot.
 
All of the most obvious answers were listed above, but as a proprietor of a database of all things .45, I cannot resist some small additions.

Among the "AR in .45" we also have "not-quite-AR" guns, such as:
- Extar EP45
- Thureon - very similar to Just Right Carbine
Although honestly I'd take the already-mentioned TNW Aero Survival in the category. Well, I would actually take CMMG Resolute, but it's belongs into "actual-AR" category. It's way better than "not-quite-AR", and well, it is just better. Note that the OOB issues that plagued Olympic Arms products are intrinsic on all blowback AR guns. Only CMMG and piston-driven guns are safe in that regard.

Next, the oddballs:
- Jard J68 - yes it was made in .45 too
- Flint River Armory CSA-45 - another AR lookalike, but actually a piston-driven gun
- Lone Wolf Alphawolf PCC - another piston system
- MasterPiece Defender MPA1SST
- Vector Uzi
- LWRC SMG-45 - did someone say CMMG was expensive? How about $3,500?

Finally, a few collectibles:
- H&R Model 60 - a semi-auto version of Reising
- M3 - full-auto only, better have that post-sample dealer license or prepare to pay
- UD-42 - in case M3 was too cheap for you
- M2 - in case UD-42 was too cheap for you - okay, this is getting ridiculous
- MAC M-10 in .45 - no, really

Regarding the RMW Extreme mentioned above, the CEO/owner of Macon said that he tried to make the DI work, and there never was enough gas for a reliable operation. A representative of CMMG said the same thing: "we ended with a port right next to the chamber and it fouled very quickly because the gas expanded and cooled down, depositing the carbon." But the users of RMW report a complete success... Very interesting.
 
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Because of several 9mm PCCs, never really pursued one in .45ACP. Passed on an H&K at a gunshow; guy claimed to be out of state, and the price was too good to be true.
Understand the appeal of such things, but this discussion has discouraged me at least.
Tho' with cast .45 boolits, there's no real price advantage.
Moon
 
Carl N. Brown said:
The TM1 is as heavy as an original WWII M1 Thompson (12 lbs loaded with a 30rd "stick" magazine Type XXX) but the TM1 is semi-auto only with a 16.5 inch legal rifle length barrel.
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I have a Kahr Thompson TM1 and as Carl N. Brown said, it is a beast. Not only is the rifle heavy, the recoil spring is heavy.

They make an oversize charging handle that makes manually cycling the action a bit easier.

I have found that the Thompson does not get much improvement in velocity over a handgun, maybe 1100-1200 fps if I remember correctly.

I've considered on and off of getting it registered as a short barreled rifle so that I can make it similar to the military version. But it can now wait until the climate improves.
 
Whats interesting in the TNW Aero's 460 Rowland is it achieves 44 magnum performance in basically a 45 acp case, (1/16th longer but overall length the same) I picked up TNWs multi-caliber package almost $250 cheaper on GB because previous owner had assembled the bolt head and firing pin wrong.
All 3 caliber's that came with the package I shoot anyway, including the .357 Sig which I also plan on ordering.
https://www.tnwfirearms.com/product-p/asrx-cplt-9445-xxxx-xxxx.htm
One thing I wonder about, would it be easier to just order a few more picatinny rails and optics, and just bolt them on for caliber specific sights.?
 
I have a CMMG 300 upper in 9mm and it has been flawless. The recoil is about 1/2 that of my other straight blow back 9's. I have seen positive reviews on the .45 and would have no problem giving the.45 a try based on my experience with the 9mm.

I also have a Thompson 1927a1. It is a fun gun to shoot but heavy and a bit unwieldy with the 16 inch barrel.

Let us know what you chose!
 
Garandimal said:
While I like and respect the .45 ACP...?

It starts slowin' down after 11" of Bbl. length.

The .40 S&W, on the other hand, is accelerating out to 15".

...about the same as a .357 Mag/158 gr.. (16").

Better std. pressure carbine round, the .40/180 gr.

The .40 or the 10mm work well, the 10mm gets done oomph from a rifle barrel for sure. :thumbup:

http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/45auto2.html

http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/357mag.html

[URL]http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/40sw.html[/URL]

http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/10mm.html

Pretty much looks like these guys found the tested rounds all increase velocity to about 15”-16” before the bullet starts slowing.

Stay safe.
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