308 suppressor suggestions

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I might be in the market for my first suppressor.

I'll have about $1k total budget.

I'd like to suppress my 308win 22" bolt action, but a 18" 308win AR10 may be in my future as well. I may also acquire a 280AI hunting rifle, that I'd like to mount it on too.

I know it won't be ideal, but it'll probably ride on my 18" 5.56 AR and 26" 223 bolt action occasionally as well. I have realistic expectations that it won't be as good as a dedicated suppressor for those guns.

So after the stamp and setting up a trust, what models should I be looking at around the $750 mark? What features should I be deciding between? How important is being able to take it apart for cleaning? I think I'd prefer a lighter weight can over absolute noise reduction. Size isn't a major concern as there's not a terrible amount of flora and fauna to get it caught on here in the desert and I'm not going to be clearing houses with it.
 
Rifle cans generally don't come apart for cleaning. MachIV makes a .308 (actually .300 WM capable) can that is very much comparable to the Saker ASR. He is always the first person I recommend, but he may not have any cans available. I'm sure he will be along eventually to clarify.

The length and weight end up being issues unless you are shooting the gun from a rest.
 
I don't mind a wait to get the right, quality can. I'm not opposed to a form 1 can either of that make much difference in suggestions.

It is possible I could foresee myself using this can with a shorter barreled 300blk with cast subsonic ammunition as well if that makes any difference.
 
A friend and I bought Rugged Surge 762 suppressors shortly after they were introduced. It was one of the first, if not the first, modular cans. Long configuration gives max suppression, short takes some weight off the muzzle. We use them on .308 bolt rifles and on SBRs in .300 Blackout and .223. We sprung for the .223 endcap but I can’t tell much difference.

There are newer .30 caliber cans, including from Rugged but the Surge remains a good choice.
 
A friend and I bought Rugged Surge 762 suppressors shortly after they were introduced. It was one of the first, if not the first, modular cans. Long configuration gives max suppression, short takes some weight off the muzzle. We use them on .308 bolt rifles and on SBRs in .300 Blackout and .223. We sprung for the .223 endcap but I can’t tell much difference.

There are newer .30 caliber cans, including from Rugged but the Surge remains a good choice.

That sounds like a good option for a pretty versatile can. It looks a little higher than my current budget, but I like the idea.
 
I ordered two cans from Silencer Central last month and am getting them with their FREE trust. Typically they have free financing with four payments but because I purchased two, I am getting six free financing payments. Getting their house brand Banish 30 and Banish 45. The FREE financing made it worthwhile for me. The money for everything is sitting in my Money Market account and may not need to take any out by spreading it out over 6 months. Why did I pick Silencer Central? I have not done this before. They made it easy to accomplish. I may have been able to get something better for the same money but one does not know what one does not know.
 
I have a Gemtech Dagger. I shoot it with my .308 Savage Hog Hunter, and my 5.56 AR, with a muzzle adapter. I am very pleased with it.
 
I did a form 1 solvn, I mean silencer because I was tired of waiting 9 or 11 months or whatever it's going to be for my 30 cal sandman.
It's bigger than a typical 5.56 rated silencer and heavier since it's intended for 308 but it works as good if not better than any reasonably affordable 5.56 silencer on a 5.56 gun.
 
I did a form 1 solvn, I mean silencer because I was tired of waiting 9 or 11 months or whatever it's going to be for my 30 cal sandman.
It's bigger than a typical 5.56 rated silencer and heavier since it's intended for 308 but it works as good if not better than any reasonably affordable 5.56 silencer on a 5.56 gun.

Did you build off a kit? Which kit did you use? I'm pretty handy, it's not out of the realm of possibilities.
 
MachIV makes a .308 (actually .300 WM capable) can that is very much comparable to the Saker ASR. He is always the first person I recommend, but he may not have any cans available. I'm sure he will be along eventually to clarify.

I actually do have a couple fresh ones on the shelf, an 8" and a 9" Accipiter 30 models. Will have a 7" Aquilae .30 ready here shortly as well. These models are both 1.6" diameter tubeless all 17-4 H900 suppressors with Bravo threaded blast chambers (also called Omega/Hybrid, "ASR", H.U.B., 1.375-24). That is the de facto industry standard for mount adapters.

This is what the current generation look like naked, this one shown with an integral brake direct thread mount:

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And after SOCOM Black moly resin:

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They are actually .300 RUM rated as long as the barrel is 22", 18" for .300 win mag, 10" for .308 win, no restriction for 5.56, 7.62 x 39 or anything else burning smaller powder charges like that.

Unfortunately, I never have managed a decent (no/minimal wind noise) video yet, but 8" Accipiter .30 meters 129 dBA at shooter's ear on an 20" .308 bolt action, 9" model is 131 dBA shooter's ear on a 22" .300 win mag. 8" is 15

I offer them with no included mount to keep cost down for guys who want to use another manufacturer's mounting system anyway, or I can do them with basic direct thread, integral brake direct thread, or my own helix port taper mount brakes. The 8 and 9 inch Accipiters are 16 and 19 ounces respectively without mounts; mounts range from about an ounce to over 5.

Bravo pattern mounting options include:

-Griffin Plan A adapter for their taper mount muzzle devices
-SilencerCo ASR
-YHM QD mounts
-Dead Air Keymo
-Q Plan B (for Cherry Bomb and aftermarket brakes of the same pattern)
-Thunderbeast CB
-Area 419 Hellfire
-Torrent QD

and others

https://www.recoilweb.com/the-universal-silencer-standard-1-375x24-156634.html
 
That's for recoring services; we have right around 100 in queue, and I can get through about 15-18 recores each month.

I try to keep a few of my production critters on hand, though.

ahh. thanks for the clarification. I think of you mostly as the recore wizard because that is what I have used you for. I forget you make your own as well. Either way, your work is top notch.
 
Shadow XL Ti

Way outside OP's budget, and if he was ready to drop $1,200 on a can before stamp, the TBAC Ultras or CGS Hyperion would be a far better choice.

AAC Cyclone

AAC is no more, and the Cyclone is pretty "meh" anyway, not that quiet and definitely not light. I do quite a few mount conversions on them, would be way down the list of cans I'd recommend.
 
Good idea going lightweight, especially since you want to hunt with it, a rifle barrel is a long lever and ounces are very noticeable. I personally prefer cans 6"-7" and sub-15 oz for the kind of purposes you're thinking about.

Some options that fit that criteria and are in stock at Hansohn Bros now:

Dead Air Nomad 30
Dead Air Nomad Ti
Energetic Armament Vox S

With the ARFCOM/SH coupon code, the Vox is under your $750 price target, the Nomad 30 is $30 over, and the Nomad Ti is a little under $200 bucks over (but sooooo light, feels like an empty shaving cream can).

I have a Nomad and liked it enough to order the 30% lighter Ti. The Nomad performs well for is length, isn't too heavy and doesn't have too much back pressure on Semi-autos. I've read that the Vox S is also pretty low back pressure.

Other options that you might find in stock elsewhere:

Ultra 7/Gen 2 (unlikely)
Silencerco Omega 300
Griffin Explorr

The 1.375"x24 standard mount thread on the Nomads, Vox S and Omega, is nice in that it gives you tons of mount options and flexibility. I have had it come loose when using the Griffin Taper system and trying to remove the can (taper > straight threads) but torquing extra hard with a Vox block or using mild thread locker keeps that from happening.

Also, .30 cal cans can sound really good on .223 hosts while giving lower back pressure, so no problems there.

Most centerfire rifle cans are sealed, carbon does build up slowly (far less than rimfire or pistol), but there are ways to clean sealed SS and Ti cans to an extent. I would never run cast bullets through a sealed can, you'll get lead buildup that's very difficult to remove. Most pistol cans are user serviceable and many are rated for .300 BLK subs, so I'd get a different can down the line for that application.
 
My favorites: Surefire, AAC, Silencerco omega. Not sur what they cost. I have experience with the Gemtech 1 and HVT, but the first 3 are better.
 
Now may be a good time to buy, I picked up several silencers during the plandemic that were $200 to $300 cheaper than anything I had ever seen before. New ones were goingfor cheaper than what I had seen used ones go for.
I don't know if people just stopped buying them and that drove the price down or if shops needed money or what.
 
My favorites: Surefire, AAC, Silencerco omega. Not sur what they cost. I have experience with the Gemtech 1 and HVT, but the first 3 are better.

AAC is gone, they were good suppressors, I love my SDN-6, but I am not sure they are good investment right now unless you get a heck of a deal on one. I really wanted a Jaeger-30 for a hunting can (or the fabled Jaeger-45 even better) but alas AAC went away when Remington did. The parent company of PSA now owns the AAC trademark so it will be interesting to see what they do with it but all the AAC people have moved on to other jobs.
 
So it's been a little while, the money got spent on a more pressing need, but the fund has been built back up and the wife is covering the cost of the stamp as a Christmas present.

So currently, I've got about $1k to play with. I've got a little more, but after looking into it, my 308win bolt action will need to be rethreaded as it's some wonky thread pattern. So that'll eat some change. Let's call it $1k with some wiggle room if something is really worth the price bump.

I've also acquired a 308win 20" AR10 in the meantime, so I'd prefer something that can withstand more than one round a minute or so. It's not something I really do, but the can will more likely than not see a mag dump or two in its life.
 
Spend you money with MachV: Cheaper and better product/service. Just in a few weeks E filing of Form 4 is supposed to launch . Will cut the wait quite a bit.
Also guess what : a .30 caliber can on a .5.56 is only a decibel less reduction than a 5.56 one is , al else equal. Id' get a 7" or 8" Mach V one, just a very informed answer with no advertising BS. You can send him the barrel action pr rifle and it will be perfect, you need a 1/2 x28 if its going on ARs .
 
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