Standard Arms model G Deluxe

So this thing popped up on GB, and I just had to have it, being a particularly nice specimen of a rather rare firearm that also holds the title of first ever gas operated semi auto rifle. Being a quarterbore, which I have a thing for, made the decision even easier.









They're also unique in that you can shut the gas system off and run them as a pump action.

They feed from an internal magazine with a rather fancy hinged floor plate and follower. They are loaded from the bottom with the floor plate swung open.

Unfortunately, my .25 Remington version is not currently running as a semi-auto, but I have only tried one load, an 87 gr. Spitzer over 29.0 grs CFE223, which may be too light, as it was resetting the striker but not kicking empties out. So I need to do some research on both the gas system and the loads.

At any rate, neat as the selectable gas system would be for a suppressor host, I won't be threading this one. Too pristine, too unique, and too rare with only about 12k ever made from 1909 to 1920. I have to try to source an original buttplate, but otherwise it's in remarkable condition for a rifle I estimate by the serial number to have been made around 1917.

ApacheCoTodd said:

I'm thinking a slim-fit bronze sleeve and non-marring engagement of the front sight would be a righteous project.

Todd.

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That would fly with rimfire and low pressure stuff, but there's a lot of force acting to separate a can from the host with rifle rounds, even more sedate ones like the .25 Remington. We've seen 7.62x39 break the pins out of the cast steel front sight/gas block on the pistols which incorporate the M24 or M26 flash hider threads into the gas block/sight assembly when people use it to mount a can. 7.62x39 is a bit higher chamber pressure than .25 Remington, but a little smaller powder charge in a larger bore, so without running the numbers, I would say the .25 Rem actually has a higher exit pressure.

I'm hesitant to try it, but may do some kind of clamshell that can be clamped very tightly without having to slide over the barrel. First priority is to get it cycling in semi-auto, though, and I may first replace the pivot pin that is known to be problematic with a part made from a stronger alloy.

Gordon said:

Sounds like you might want to trade a suppressor for my Remington 25-20 pump for my cherry cherry Marlin 27 32-20 pump ?

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I woulds absolutely be interested in that! A 27S is on my short list. I have my lever .32-20, but it needs a pump companion, and either another model 25 Remington or a Marlin 27 would be perfect. Your rifle's value would probably exceed the value of the can, though, so I'll have to get you cash as well, or get your barrel threading taken care of, etc.

Let me know what you have in mind. A 1.25" OD x 7" long can is all that's needed for really good performance with the .25-20.

And the Model 25 is a fantastic little host, BTW. We were just out at a friend's place ringing steel with my model 25 .25-20 running the Ninety-Four suppressor and 85 gr. RNFP Trail Boss loads that clock a bit under 1,100 (some do go super, need to back off .2 or .3 gr). It takes a minute for the bullet to get to the 200 yard silhouette, but I was able to hit it with boring monotony (until the wind picked up) using that sweet little rifle, and even those small bullets at sedate velocities hitting the steel was louder than the shot, as is racking the pump. Wife took some video.