I got to hold some pretty cool pieces of WWII history yesterday

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I went to pick up my Model 36-1 that had been reblued by my receiving FFL and I found out they had bought a bunch of guns and artifacts from a collector and had just gone through them.

I was shown a really cool Type 97 Arisaka sniper rifle that was in amazing shape for it’s age and the use it surely saw.

I’ve never seen a mum on the receiver intact, all I’ve seen have been defaced. The gun also had the wire monopod and the often-discarded dust cover still on it. I didn’t post any pics of this gun as they have better ones of the rifle on GB. (Above)

Holding the thing and sighting through the scope was almost eerie. I’m a big reader of WWII history and personal account/memoir books, and the savagery our young men faced in battle against the Japanese was awful. Snipers hiding in holes and crevices that no sane man would fit in killed far too many of our Soldiers and Marines. I hope none fell to the bark of this gun... but with any milsurp the gun tells no tales so one can only imagine the use it saw. :uhoh:

They also had a trove of bayonets from Japanese, Korean and Manchurian manufacture, several type 99 7.7 rifles including a last-ditch production rifle with a hand carved (chipped?) stock, crude sights, bamboo buttplate and welded bolt parts, along with a nice 8mm Nambu pistol.

To balance it out a Smith-Corona made Springfield 03-A3 rifle was also in the shop, so this sort of cancelled out the feeling I got from holding the Japanese sniper rifle.

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If I had the $$ I’d have bought the sniper rifle and donated it to the WWII museum in New Orleans. I don’t... so I can’t. Some other lucky collector will hopefully buy it and share it with others.

A neat day indeed.... stay safe.
 
I have a Finnish rifle with some spooky provenance. It was issued in 1940, and the guy that had it knew a thing or 2 about rifles. The forend was shimmed/floated with shaved match sticks, and the stock bedded with some sort of black resin and burlap. The trigger was hand stoned and smooth as silk. Zero was dead on, you could see where the front sight was filed very slightly to bring elevation to zero. With a D166 replica load, it shoots true to the sights. Front sight still bore blacking of some sort. Finish and stock wear indicate heavy use. I have a lot of military rifles, but I'm pretty sure this one went to the outskirts of Leningrad and back. If the field expedient modifications match the skill and intent of the shooter, it most certainly drew blood.
 
My Arisaka could tell some stories, Im sure. Im equally sure they ended badly for the poor bastard that carried it.

AFAIK, nearly all of the Arisakas here were bring backs acquired when the Japs surrendered, so good chance it's weilder went on to marry, have kids, worked until retirement and lived to see the age of the internet just like an allied soldier who came home.
 
Thanks for the photos.
What's the story on the Type 30 - top right picture.
Rifle or carbine? and did it look clean and straight enough to you.
Are they looking to move all the stuff?
Thanks for sharing.

JT
 
Speedo66:

Some Swedish guns might also have reached the Norwegian Resistance in WW2, via remote northeast Norway?

No idea whether their basic military rifles had the same chambering.
Can’t remember reading about any common 6.5 mm Norwegian guns.
 
Speedo66:

Some Swedish guns might also have reached the Norwegian Resistance in WW2, via remote northeast Norway?

No idea whether their basic military rifles had the same chambering.
Can’t remember reading about any common 6.5 mm Norwegian guns.
I know some of the Krags we used were also chambered for the Norwegians in 6.5 Swedish.

That would be a nice gun to find.
 
Riomouse911

Someone must have had a nice collection at one time! I have never seen a Type 97 sniper rifle with it's mum intact and still with the scope on it! That's certainly a rarity in itself! Thanks for sharing!
 
Mine they counter bored the crown. So im guessing it got a lot of use too. How do you find out if it has been rearsenaled? Mine was made in 1943 at the Tula plant. Ironic thing is Tula ammo is what shoots accurate in mine.
 
Thanks for the photos.
What's the story on the Type 30 - top right picture.
Rifle or carbine? and did it look clean and straight enough to you.
Are they looking to move all the stuff?
Thanks for sharing.

JT
The rifles all looked really good. If you are interested click the link above and hit the contact the seller icon. Let them know you saw a post on THR that had a few of their Japanese guns in it, I got their ok about posting the pics and stuff before I did.

The guys at H&H Engineering (the name of their corporation) will have much better answers about the specifics of the rifles and bayonets they have for sale than I do from my brief encounter with the guns. :thumbup:

Stay safe.
 
Riomouse911

Someone must have had a nice collection at one time! I have never seen a Type 97 sniper rifle with it's mum intact and still with the scope on it! That's certainly a rarity in itself! Thanks for sharing!
Yeah, that was almost like being allowed to visit a museum and hold exhibits with the curators. As soon as it was picked up and brought over I knew it was something really rare; with the pod, dust cover, scope (non matching serial number but correct) and intact mum all on one gun... that’s like pulling a four of a kind off the deal. :)

I just had to get their ok to share, I knew many of you would have some cool milsurps with stories behind them as well. :thumbup:

Stay safe.
 
I grew up in an area populated by many combat veterans with just stuff. As kids, we used to play with a lot of it out in the yard, leave it in the yard, over night, in the rain, etc. A very different time for sure, it cost more for a cap pistol than a Japanese revolver, with no known ammo available, so kids played with those in the 50s.
Over the years I have had several of these “toys” brought in to restore or rebuild. German, Japanese, Russian US Civil War, etc. The tools of war often become the toys of children.
 
I have over half a dozen Arisaka's as well as 4 bayonets. Three of mine have the Mum's intact but I only have two with all of the original furniture. The Type 99 rifle with a bayonet attached is longer than most of the soldiers were tall which I thought was interesting. I really like shooting the Type 38 carbines but my favorite is the Type 44 so called Cavalry Carbine. This website is useful for rifle and bayonet information: https://oldmilitarymarkings.com/japanese_markings.html
 
Those are cool pieces of history. Thanks for sharing. It's fortunate the store owner let you take pictures.

My claim to fame was getting to fondle a G43 once. I considered trading my truck. Toyotas are all over the place. World War 2 rifles, not so much.
 
I have over half a dozen Arisaka's as well as 4 bayonets. Three of mine have the Mum's intact but I only have two with all of the original furniture. The Type 99 rifle with a bayonet attached is longer than most of the soldiers were tall which I thought was interesting. I really like shooting the Type 38 carbines but my favorite is the Type 44 so called Cavalry Carbine. This website is useful for rifle and bayonet information: https://oldmilitarymarkings.com/japanese_markings.html
Ya, the length of pull felt like it was shorter than even the sks’ short stock does in my hands. With the bayonets on them, the rifles were huge.

Stay safe.
 
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