.350 legend anyone come up with a good load for it/what do you think of it as a cartridge?

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Ok everyone like the title says I enjoy mine immensely I’ve got a load worked up for it and I am very happy with it it won’t shoot tiny groups but it wasn’t designed for that


I think overall it’s a good deer round and for me an ideal HD round!
 
I bought an AR barrel with the hopes of shooting my 9mm bullets at 2800 fps but I'm unable to get it to feed reliably. I think it is a magazine issue, but I don't have a bunch of time to work on this kind of stuff so it's currently gathering dust. I have customers telling me they get them to work, but I haven't had the time to really dig into it. Other than that, I think it is an amazing idea and a WAY better option over the 300 BO.
 
350 loads are next on my list, although I am doing this in a bolt action. I have been using this as my dedicated beaver and muskrat rifle with factory FMJs, but it is overkill. I will be working with cast bullets for such a load, although eventually I will fool with jacketed. I have more than enough factory full house jacketed to hunt deer with if I ever get a deer rifle tag and decide to use 350 for it.

BTW, for anyone interested, the Hornady 11th edition manual has data for 350L now. I was especially thrilled to see data for 2400 because it is far more forgiving to work with compared to stuff like Lil Gun.
 
Now knowing that I can shove all kinds of pistol rounds in that straight walled beauty, I will definitely be looking at loading 350L for my AR pistol...but, before I do that:

-I need a barrel and a flash hider, strike 1.
-I need brass, strike 2
-I need dies, strike 3
-I need more loading materials...YER OUT!!!!

I'm not holding my breath that I'll be able to do this anytime soon. Perhaps in 2022.
 
Typetwelve said:
Now knowing that I can shove all kinds of pistol rounds in that straight walled beauty, I will definitely be looking at loading 350L for my AR pistol...but, before I do that:

-I need a barrel and a flash hider, strike 1.
-I need brass, strike 2
-I need dies, strike 3
-I need more loading materials...YER OUT!!!!

I'm not holding my breath that I'll be able to do this anytime soon. Perhaps in 2022.
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I hate to hear that I think you will like the round
 
AJC1 said:
It's the one round I see on the shelf at every store and it's cheap relatively.
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My experience as well. If I would have bought every lone box I have seen in the last several weeks I would have enough to consider a firearm in 350 Legend.
 
horsemen61 said:
I hate to hear that I think you will like the round
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Same here, and by everything I've seen, 350L should perform very well in a super short barrel given the powders it uses.

I build my rather useless 7.5" AR pistol back in 2014 and it's been a oddity of sorts ever since. It works just fine with 223, but the round is pretty neutered from such a short barrel and using rifle powders, the muzzle blast is substantial. I kicked around loading 300 BLK for it, but after watching my brother mess around with the round, I decided to pass. The 350L is straight-walled, so it will be much easier to reload and using pistol projectiles, will be pretty fun to mess with.
 
Just loaded my first 10 rounds this past weekend, sighters to use in my new Ruger 16" Ranch rifle with a Swarovski Z3i 3-10x42 on top.

I used Hogdon's data - 27gr of Lil'Gun in new Winchester brass, under a 170gr Hornady InterLock SP at 2.240" COAL.

I'll report back after I launch 'em... : )
 
Thought about the .350 for a minute but since I have a .50 Beowulf AR I didn’t feel the need for a smaller cartridge. Buddy of mine has an AR in .350 and it seems to shoot factory loads ok. We haven’t started reloading for it.
 
Trashyshoots said:
What size bullets does 350 legend take?
.355 like 9mm or .358?
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That is a long an sorted story we have argued about many times in the past here. A quick search would not doubt bring up several threads on that subject.

If I didn't already have a 300 BO and a suppressor to go with it and a 450 Bushmaster the 350 Legend and a good 9mm suppressor would do a pretty good job covering what I use those other two cartridge's for in one gun/cartridge. It would probably out perform the 300 BO for suppressed subsonic performance and thought it falls well short of 450 Bushmaster in the energy/mass department is would still be a straight-wall AR cartridge with enough thump for deer in straight wall states.

I like the concept for the cartridge but Winchester's rollout was bad and it came too late for me as I already have its uses covered and my fun money is going for other guns/uses.
 
I have a 357 Maximum, so I understand the allure. That said, I don’t use it much because I have lots of other stuff.

Having lots of other AR’s in calibers that either reach out further or have even more energy up close, I don’t have one yet.

Before it came out I did toy with the idea of converting .223 brass to hold .355-.357 bullets though. The case would have needed to have been “blown out” to the chamber but with the right steps it can be done.

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I have in my collection both a Remington Model 81 in .35Rem and a Winchester Model 1907 in .351WSL. I also have a Handi-Rifle in .357Max. I'm curious how the .357Max compares to the .350L in a 20" bbl rifle.

I've thought about a Legend bolt rifle- a Ruger American to go with the American I have in .223Rem - but it is one of those ideas that just lacks budget and purpose. I'm not an AR fan and won't ever own one. Please don't try to sell me on them, I've used them in my checkered past and didn't like the platform then, like it less now.
 
GeoDudeFlorida said:
350L lever action built on the Browning-style BLR-81 box-fed magazine actions would be an interesting pack rifle.
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You already have the .358 Win in a BLR. They even make it in a take-down version. That would be an awesome pack rifle, IMO

https://www.browning.com/products/f...nt/blr-lightweight-81-stainless-takedown.html

Having said that, do the states requiring straight walled cartridge for hunting allow calibers larger than .35? If so, Browning also offers their BLR in 450 Marlin
 
Nature Boy said:
You already have the .358 Win in a BLR. They even make it in a take-down version. That would be an awesome pack rifle, IMO

https://www.browning.com/products/f...nt/blr-lightweight-81-stainless-takedown.html

Having said that, do the states requiring straight walled cartridge for hunting allow calibers larger than .35? If so, Browning also offers their BLR in 450 Marlin
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In have a BLR in .358Win and it is an excellent do-anything rifle. Didn't know it came in a TAKE-DOWN model! VERY cool!

For the OP, my go-to loads for .357Max use 200gr. WFN-GC hard-cast lead - mostly from Cast Performance or Hunter's Supply - over 13.5gr. of 2400 powder. I'm getting freight-train velocities out of that load - around 1500fps from a 22" barrel - and it will roll a 200 pound hog, through-and-through both shoulders if I miss the neck bone, dropping them hard and fast. I don't see why the same or similar load wouldn't work in a .350Legend. You maty have to run them through a .356/.355 sizer but, its lead so that's do-able. However, the meat damage is also a consideration so be cautious with heavy, flat-nosed bullets moving that fast. I often have to discard sections of rib when I fail to hit the skull or neck. :(

EDIT: Bummer! I checked on the take-downs and both .358Win and .450Marlin have notes, "THIS PRODUCT IS NO LONGER IN PRODUCTION. Last Catalog Year: 2016"
 
GeoDudeFlorida said:
EDIT: Bummer! I checked on the take-downs and both .358Win and .450Marlin have notes, "THIS PRODUCT IS NO LONGER IN PRODUCTION. Last Catalog Year: 2016"
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Yep, you're right. Not surprising since they are both dead cartridges when it comes to commercially available ammo

I also have a BLR in .358 win. This year will be my 40th anniversary hunting with it!
 
224 Valkyrie, 6.5 Gendel, 6.8 SPC, 300 AAC Blackout, 30 Remington AR, 350 Legend, 450 Bushmaster, 458 SOCOM, 50 Beowulf, etc, none of these relatively new cartridges do anything older cartridges cannot also do balletically speaking. But what they do have in common, and can do that many of the older cartridge of similar capability can't do, is fit into the envelope require by the AR-15 platform. That may or may not interest you but when the 1994 AWB sunset in 2004 many in the firearms industry set out to show the anti-gun groups and the Fudds that the AR-15 platform can do a lot more than 5.56. Like it or not the AR-15 is a huge hugely popular platform and the large variety of cartridges designed for the platform covering a huge variety of uses has helped extend that popularity.

I currently have ARs chambered in 5 different cartridges (6 if you count my can-cannon :D) and use them for very different things. ie, A 45/70 in a lever-gun does not interest me much but 450 Bushmaster in a nice AR has been a lot of fun.
 
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mcb said:
224 Valkyrie, 6.5 Gendel, 6.8 SPC, 300 AAC Blackout, 30 Remington AR, 350 Legend, 450 Bushmaster, 458 SOCOM, 50 Beowulf, etc, none of these relatively new cartridges do anything older cartridges can do balletically speaking. But what they do have in common and can do that many of the older cartridge of similar capability can't do it fit into the envelope require by the AR-15 platform. That may or may not interest you but when the 1994 AWB sunset in 2004 many in the firearms industry set out to show the anti-gun groups and the Fudds that the AR-15 plateform can do a lot more than 5.56. Like it or not the AR-15 is a huge hugely popular platform and the large variety of cartridges designed for the platform covering a huge variety of uses has helped extend that popularity.

I currently have ARs chambered in 5 different cartridges (6 if you count my can cannon :D) and use them for very different things. A 45/70 in a lever-gun does not interest me much but 450 Bushmaster in a nice AR has been a lot of fun.
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The fact that it is available in a 16.5" barreled bolt-action rifle interests me, greatly. The AR platform is extremely popular, it has almost entirely replaced the lever-action as "America's Rifle" platform. I'm not fond of it but if the platform 's popularity is creating interesting cartridges that also translate to more familiar platforms - like bolt-action carbines - then more power to ya'll.

On the question of loads, I still wonder how many, if any, of the Contender or Dan Wesson .357Max loads are translatable to the Legend. They do seem to have some common elements - the Max has a SAAMI pressure level set at 40KPSI vs. 55KPSI for the Legend; .350L has a 1.71” case @ 21 grains, .357Max 1.598” case @ 25.4grains, so it I doubt a full pressure max. load in Maximum will be dangerous in a Legend.
 
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Been a long time since I've seen that. Winchester quit making it years ago and Hornady would only make it in limited runs. This Winchester offering must be a recent development. Maybe the 'ol .358 is making a comeback
 
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