Latest in 380 self defense ammo?

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What is the go to these days in 380 self defense ammo?
I thought I recalled Lucky Gunner doing some tests on 380 ammo recently, but I'll be danged if I can find it.
 
I prefer Hornady American Gunner because the .380 ballistics tests I've seen show the best results from Hornady's XTP bullet. If I were to go back to FMJ, it would be the SIG Elite 100gr flat point. That's what I used to carry.
 
Same here as well as Federal.... well, whatever they are calling hydrashoks this week.

My most critical aspects of round performance are repeatable POI and reliable feeding & ejection.

Terminal ballistics - for me - are in fact a VERY distant third.

Todd.
Yeah, now that I recall, it was the HSD or Hydra-shok Deep .380 loads that were the cat's ass.
 
I use the Underwood load with the extreme defender bullet. Looks like a flat tipped phillips screwdriver. It gets good reviews. I use it in my LCP, G42, sig 230.
Shoots a hair low in all of them. About an inch @15yds. No malfunctions of any kind.
 
I use the Underwood load with the extreme defender bullet. Looks like a flat tipped phillips screwdriver. It gets good reviews. I use it in my LCP, G42, sig 230.
Shoots a hair low in all of them. About an inch @15yds. No malfunctions of any kind.
This is what I run in my lcpII and my glock. Also my Ruger carbine.
 
I would be curious to see those "good reviews" of the cavitator bullets in .380. All I saw thus far said that they require velocity to work. Their performance in 9mm was better than the traditional hollowpoints, in particular at the consistency and reliability, but only because 9mm is able to drive them at a certain speed. The .380, even in Underwood loadings, is not likely to propel a cavitator fast enough.
 
I would be curious to see those "good reviews" of the cavitator bullets in .380. All I saw thus far said that they require velocity to work. Their performance in 9mm was better than the traditional hollowpoints, in particular at the consistency and reliability, but only because 9mm is able to drive them at a certain speed. The .380, even in Underwood loadings, is not likely to propel a cavitator fast enough.

How much speed is required?
 
I've got a couple boxes of these Pentagon Hollow Points to play with. I plan on loading them the same as any other flat-nose lead .380ACP: 2.5gr. Bullseye @ 0.885" COAL for paper and up to 2.8gr. for velocity. I'll let you know how they do for FFF in my various .380's.
 
I use the Underwood load with the extreme defender bullet. Looks like a flat tipped phillips screwdriver. It gets good reviews. I use it in my LCP, G42, sig 230.
Shoots a hair low in all of them. About an inch @15yds. No malfunctions of any kind.

That is my choice also for my LCP II. No w80 JHP is likely to expand out of a short barrel. The Extreme Defender. Uses fluif transfer to achieve a wound cavity. It is a mean 380 bullet.
 
How much speed is required?
Honestly I don't know. LeHigh make a gold standard in this area, which is supposedly better than challengers like ARX. Their 90 gr 9mm load clocks at 1350 fps, the 65 gr .380 is at 1150 - only 15% less. This clearly throws a shade upon my claims of the required velocity. In the same time, after a few years with Extreme Penetrator on the market, LeHigh developed something under a name of "Extreme Cavitator", which is designed to accomplish what X.Penetrator does, but in low-pressure rounds like .32 ACP. I haven't seen any research or comparisons about its performance. The bullet sure looks goofy.
 
In my G42, I carry either Hornady CDs or some kind of flat nose FMJ.
But it’s not carried much, I like a j frame when I can pocket it.

Lefty
 
Any of the Lehigh bullets (or similar) as they seem like the best compromise between expansion and penetration...
 
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