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Why not just shoot 45 Colt in your 460? It would help you shoot that revolver more without the recoil of the 460 S&W.
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Everybody needs a good 38 or 357. Which one is the question, and there are very few wrong answers. If your recoil sensitive to the 460 then you probably wouldn’t like a scandium J frame or Taurus ultralight. Beyond that, find what feels good. A model 66 or 686 Smith would be good. Taurus 66, Rossi revolvers have visual quirks but are nice enough to consider. Ruger, Colt, S&W, Kimber and a few others are very reputable. Taurus, Charter, EAA are the next tier down. I wouldn’t go for anything any cheaper, and few exist anyway.
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Good point and you could have it modified to shoot .45 ACP. Trouble is it will still be a 60 ounce 5 shot.
Check out this site:
https://tkcustom.com/products/swx45acp-035-ss
Also, I would like to have one of those Ruger 5050’s. I was actively trying to buy one a few months ago but none were to be found.
I am hoping to get one someday. I already spent my self imposed allotment of gun money for a few months on a S&W 25 Classic.
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True but at least it won't make you flinch and give you more trigger time with your revolver.
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I’d say a 3 inch barrel in a Kimber K6 or a Ruger SP101 would be good choices for concealed carry guns that can pack a 357 punch for the woods.
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The Kimber is a Classy Gun! It would be ashamed to hide it in your pant waistline.That gun needs to be seen
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The next question you should ask yourself is can I find/afford the ammo for the revolver I buy.
As I get older I have found that revolvers in .357 or larger are uncomfortable for me to shoot. .38 SP+P through a 3" Ruger LCRx is about the max load I can handle now. You might throw a LCRx into the mix for consideration. I bought mine to carry but never have been able to find a decent OWB holster for it but I'm picky about holsters.
As I get older I have found that revolvers in .357 or larger are uncomfortable for me to shoot. .38 SP+P through a 3" Ruger LCRx is about the max load I can handle now. You might throw a LCRx into the mix for consideration. I bought mine to carry but never have been able to find a decent OWB holster for it but I'm picky about holsters.
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I find that - when shooting revolvers with heavy muzzle blast - I shoot better if I have ear plugs covered by muffs.
It's something I've never really conquered, probably from not shooting the heavies enough when in my 20s and 30s.
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I think the model 69 is a decent choice especially with 44 special hand loads. I kinda want a 4” myself for that purpose, but I’m more of a rural Washington fella so it may be a little much in the city. While My first revolver/handgun wasn’t a 460 hand cannon it was a 6.5 41 magnum blackhawk, which took some getting used to. Sometimes I still have to focus on just letting the gun roll in my hand and not try and fight it(perks of a single action I suppose)I can often shoot better one handed when I’m in the proper frame of mind.
all that said unless your headed to the north cascades where the grizzlies are 357 is a good way to go for a good all around cartridge.I’m not personally interested in barrels much shorter that 4” myself.
all that said unless your headed to the north cascades where the grizzlies are 357 is a good way to go for a good all around cartridge.I’m not personally interested in barrels much shorter that 4” myself.
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I have not bought factory ammo in a decade…. well take that back, bought some 9mm FMJ about 5 years ago and Shotshell, and .22lr.
Reloading is a lifestyle!
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oooh yeah, your from Washington, you know about all the critters here that wants to eat you got supper. Did you hear about the mountain lion that ate the biker a few years ago, was in North Cascade too? his biking buddy just left him there to be eaten. Now if they were packing heat, they could have done something.
Must have been a painful, those cats will eat you alive!
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Lots of great options laid out so far. What about a Model 10 or Model 64. Go with the heavy barrel for either model.
38 Spl in a fixed sight 4 inch is a gun that you would probably never part with. A very do all type of revolver that every American should own. Big enough to handle stout +p loads but still concealable.
38 Spl in a fixed sight 4 inch is a gun that you would probably never part with. A very do all type of revolver that every American should own. Big enough to handle stout +p loads but still concealable.
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So many guns so little money… I’ll start with a S&W .22LR and learn to shoot DA, then I’ll go from their. I have plenty of carry guns for the streets of Seattle and I’ll carry my 1 shot .460 noise maker for the woods
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I did hear about that, spooky stuff. Just looked it up again and it happened near Snoqualmie. The article said the person that got away saw the cat dragging the other person into the bushes as they rode off. YIKES! That’s the stuff of nightmares. Not sure I would have left my friend behind ( I believe the victim was a woman) but i wasn’t there. Horrible stuff. Sure glad these kind of things are as rare as they are.
Stay safe out there chief
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If you're flinching and suffer from muzzle blast, you're already damaged goods, pal.
You need to cure that flinch first.
Rent a good steel frame .38 Spl with 4" or 6" barrel.
Take a spotter with you to load some of the chambers.
Double up with plugs and muffs.
Snapping on the empty chambers will show you and your spotter what you need to work on.
Repeat!
When you've got that problem licked, then go shopping.
If what you want a large bore, .44 Spls and .45 Colts in steel frames can be downright pussycats and are concealable if you have a physique to handle the bulk and weight---but don't even go there until that flinch is a cooked goose
You need to cure that flinch first.
Rent a good steel frame .38 Spl with 4" or 6" barrel.
Take a spotter with you to load some of the chambers.
Double up with plugs and muffs.
Snapping on the empty chambers will show you and your spotter what you need to work on.
Repeat!
When you've got that problem licked, then go shopping.
If what you want a large bore, .44 Spls and .45 Colts in steel frames can be downright pussycats and are concealable if you have a physique to handle the bulk and weight---but don't even go there until that flinch is a cooked goose
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“Biker”? I had to look that up. I think the word is Bicyclist or Cyclist. Anyway, people are nuts for going out like that without some type of protection. That happened the Spring before I left Oregon.
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Thanks! my flinch us horrible with that gun! I don’t have mych friends or range time, so I’ll just start over with a .22lr DA
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I’ve been guilty of it too! I did a 12 mile hike around Mt. Rainer, with only a HK VP70 9mm (only think I had time to grab) and darkness caught up with us…. talk about SCARED!
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That beats a Swiss Army knife and a tire pump.
Whenever I hiked about in Oregon I always had a Ruger Vaquero .45 Colt or my S&W 327 Night Guard .357 on me. Usually I carried the 327 when I was also carrying a rifle.
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Now yer talkin'!
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A .22 is good, but it's not good to dry fire them. The advantage of a .38 is that you can leave a chamber unloaded---that is what makes your flinching evident.
When you can unknowingly fire an empty chamber and not flinch you're ready to graduate
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Far be it from me to suggest not buying a nice .22 revolver, but shooting .38 wadcutters in a medium frame has only slightly more recoil. Plus you can do the exercise mentioned above where you leave an empty chamber or two. I do that without an observer periodically just to force myself to concentrate on not anticipating the recoil. That is very helpful, you can easily see which way and how far you are pushing the muzzle when it goes click rather than bang.
Watching for that also helps concentrate on keeping eyes open. For me, a big part of the flinch problem is unconsciously closing my eyes in anticipation. It is a normal human response to close your eyes when setting off an explosion in your hand, so it makes sense that you have to consciously force yourself not to.
Since you reload, you can load HBWC .38 rounds over a light Bullseye charge up for not much more than the current price of .22lr ammo. Once you get comfortable shooting those target rounds, you can do a lot with .38 (or .357) from the reloading bench to suit your ultimate needs. I started reloading because of .38, and it is still one of my favorites to reload.
Watching for that also helps concentrate on keeping eyes open. For me, a big part of the flinch problem is unconsciously closing my eyes in anticipation. It is a normal human response to close your eyes when setting off an explosion in your hand, so it makes sense that you have to consciously force yourself not to.
Since you reload, you can load HBWC .38 rounds over a light Bullseye charge up for not much more than the current price of .22lr ammo. Once you get comfortable shooting those target rounds, you can do a lot with .38 (or .357) from the reloading bench to suit your ultimate needs. I started reloading because of .38, and it is still one of my favorites to reload.
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Dropping the hammer on an empty chamber can show if you are flinching, but it’s not the only way. Group size, absence of flyers is an equally valid way to judge how much you flinch.
Rapid fire is terrific fun but not conducive to good trigger technique. Load one round, fire it, then clear the gun, reload it with another single round, etc. Force yourself to concentrate on each squeeze of the trigger as if your life depends on that one single shot. See if your groups get smaller with practice. If they don’t, get some coaching from someone who knows what they are doing.
Rapid fire is terrific fun but not conducive to good trigger technique. Load one round, fire it, then clear the gun, reload it with another single round, etc. Force yourself to concentrate on each squeeze of the trigger as if your life depends on that one single shot. See if your groups get smaller with practice. If they don’t, get some coaching from someone who knows what they are doing.
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Hard to beat a gp100, don't let people fool you, it's the best "working mans" revolver there is. Sometimes you'll get one with a heavy / gritty trigger but sometimes you'll get one with a very acceptable trigger - both will smooth out. Either way you get a revolver that will digest a lifetime of full house magnums and ask for more, not the case from the other brands. Just my experience .
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