Mid priced, high powered FFP opinions

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Heck, if I went with that Crimson Trace series 3, I'd almost have enough left over to drop my action in a Boyd's AT-ONE.

I dunno if that'll be much of an improvement over the Accufit/Accustock already on my Savage 110 Varmint, but they sure look good.
 
gotboostvr said:
So you have experience with both the Crimson Trace and the Viper PST? Which do you prefer? Any observations?

How are the adjustments on the CT? I've heard multiple times the glass is very good.
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I give the CT3 the edge on glass, GII adjustments are a little bit crisper. The GII has shot well at matches, so I know it tracks well, CT3 hasn’t been used yet.
 
Walkalong said:
I give the CT3 the edge on glass, GII adjustments are a little bit crisper. The GII has shot well at matches, so I know it tracks well, CT3 hasn’t been used yet.
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So at first blush for informal 1000yrd plinking, would you suggest the CT 4-20X, or the GII PST 3-15X regardless of price?
 
Hard to say really, GII has a good track record.

CT is cheaper being on sale. I like that. 15X is all you need, but 20 will be nice.

I bought my GenII 5-25 on sale for $700, then they went up to $800, seem to be back to 1K, great deal at $700.

Scopes are hard enough to pick for ourselves, much less someone else.
 
army_eod said:
FFP has its purpose and many scopes do not understand what that is about. If you cannot use a reticle at a lower power, it is pretty useless. I do not use FFP.
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The Rt-25 suffers a little bit in this area, the optics are still clear and the cross hairs are visible at 5x, but the hold overs dissappear. Honestly though, I don't know when I would use the hold overs at low power.
 
Hugger-4641 said:
The Rt-25 suffers a little bit in this area, the optics are still clear and the cross hairs are visible at 5x, but the hold overs dissappear. Honestly though, I don't know when I would use the hold overs at low power.
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I went with a SFP scope for my hunting rifle. It'll mostly live on 4x, and it'll only get dialed up to 12x and make use of the subtensions in very rare instances.

This scopes for a range rifle which will mostly live in the upper half of its power range. If I have to dial down some to deal with mirage, I don't want to lose the ability to hold over.
 
There was a time, not too long ago, when most folks and military did NOT care about FFP. Note all the big tactical optic mfg were SFP (Leupold and Nightforce). Those guys still make a ton of SFP optics. I have no need for FFP. I dial if I need to. I am not a 1000 yard competition shooter. I like to see my reticles at all magnifications and it looks the same. Call me a dope. LOL.
 
Nothing wrong with that. It's just like any other tool. I've got, use and appreciate FFP, SFP, fixed power, and non-magnified optics. I've got different kinds of hammers too. I'm not gonna use a 2lb hammer to drive penny nails to hang a picture any more than I'll use my brass hammer to drive tent stakes. They all serve their roles and excel at other things.

I like FFP for targets, and SFP for hunting, generally.
 
NF and Leupold were very, very late to the FFP game. They were also selling scopes like my VX-3 or MK4 LR 3.5-14x or whatever it was, that had turrets in MOA and reticle in MILs. The funny thing is, you could spend a whole week in a class like Thunder Ranch, or work with snipers in any branch, and be hard pressed to say the scope was holding you back. It did everything they needed, because their expectations were so low. Shooting at 40" tall E-type targets, slowly, prone, with blind internal mags.

Expectations have changed, and so has the gear.
 
I went ahead and ordered the Crimson Trace. Seemed like enough people were pleased with them at full price, that half off was too good of a deal to pass on.

I'll update once I get it mounted up and a chance to wring it out.
 
gotboostvr said:
I went ahead and ordered the Crimson Trace. Seemed like enough people were pleased with them at full price, that half off was too good of a deal to pass on.

I'll update once I get it mounted up and a chance to wring it out.
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You'll like the glass, and you'll probably like the reticle, and you maybe will like the turrets. That seems to be the consensus on the CTs. I thought very well of them, but in the end wanted more positive turrets. Just a personal thing.

If you don't wind up cotton'ing to it, you can always find alternatives. Today, my FLS sold me a used but super clean PST Gen2 5x-25x plus Vortex rings plus Vortex level for $500. I have to imagine that similar gear deals are gonna continue through the spring / summer as folk take stock of their financial priorities and start to offload things that they don't need / use right now.
 
rbernie said:
You'll like the glass, and you'll probably like the reticle, and you maybe will like the turrets. That seems to be the consensus on the CTs. I thought very well of them, but in the end wanted more positive turrets. Just a personal thing.

If you don't wind up cotton'ing to it, you can always find alternatives. Today, my FLS sold me a used but super clean PST Gen2 5x-25x plus Vortex rings plus Vortex level for $500. I have to imagine that similar gear deals are gonna continue through the spring / summer as folk take stock of their financial priorities and start to offload things that they don't need / use right now.
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I think I'll like the reticle. It looks well suited to what I plan on doing. If it was for a hunting rifle that might be kept on low power, I could see having some issue with it.

And being able to hold over with that reticle, I'll be able to save myself some dialing so the turrets not being super-duper should be fine as along as they're accurate when needed.

If I could have found that Vortex PST GII 5-25x, I would have snapped that up. I was cruising for one for a little before I started looking at alternatives.
 
Walkalong said:
I give the CT3 the edge on glass, GII adjustments are a little bit crisper. The GII has shot well at matches, so I know it tracks well, CT3 hasn’t been used yet.
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I just saw Midway has Crimson Trace series 5 in 3-24 that looks interesting. I wondered what your thoughts were.
I'm thinking this might be too good to pass up.
Thanks
Austin
 
Judging by my Series 3 5-25 CT, it should be really good glass for the money, but I have not handled a Series 5.
 
I'll be interested to hear about your experience with the Crimson Trace. I looked at those, but settled on a "no box" Athlon Optics Midas TAC 6-24x50 APRS3 FFP MIL from Camera Land. I want to side-by-side test it against a PST Gen II 3-15x44.
 
Legionnaire said:
I'll be interested to hear about your experience with the Crimson Trace. I looked at those, but settled on a "no box" Athlon Optics Midas TAC 6-24x50 APRS3 FFP MIL from Camera Land. I want to side-by-side test it against a PST Gen II 3-15x44.
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The PST Gen II 3x15 was a scope I was interested in too but the spotty qc problems had me concerned. A good friend has purchased 2 Vortex scopes and had to send both back. I think they were Diamondback models.
A couple years ago I was in Brownells in Iowa. They have a bunch of scopes on cut down stocks from beginning to expensive.
Also have a big window you can look out of at distance. I must have looked thru 2 dozen scopes. The two I remember being impressed with were a Vortex Razor in I think 3×27 and a Crimpson Trace. Trace had really nice glass. Don't remember the model though. Do remember the Vortex being
"heavier than a dead priest"
 
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