Biden Is Cracking Down On Guns Again With AR-15 Pistol Ban, And He’s Using Heller To Do It

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MY head would literally explode if Joe Biden could coherently show me he understands the legal difference between an AR rifle, pistol, or SBR.

Yes, the buck stops with his desk and he will willingly sign any antigun bill Congress manages to ram through, regardless of actual content.
**** man. A good number of gun users can’t even do that.
 
Arguing over the trimming of the gilded cage.
Merely acknowledging that it exists and pointing out its extent. One needn't like the cage, nor even approve of it to have a proper picture of it. Pretending it doesn't exist, or pretending that it's bigger than it really is, is pointless.
 
Don't underestimate Biden. He has it more "together" than you might think. That said, I don't think he's a fanatic antigunner. He's trying to balance the demands of his base with the needs of the larger electorate. Pistol braces might get restricted, but nothing more dramatic than that is going to be done against guns. His priorities are elsewhere.

What we see here is the usual alarmism -- on both sides -- trying to ramp up the money machine.
You're always making excuses for anti gunners and saying they won't do anything, well. Joe and history speak differently.

Get ready folks, it's coming.
 
If they had a clear, safe number of senators that was above the filibuster line, they would certainly pass a very comprehensive ban. It is only electoral uncertainty that stops this. Saw that the Democrats are trying to get some kind of background bill that might get some GOP, but it they then say that is a first step.
 
Biden has clearly stated he is for certain gun and parts bans as well as a buy back or confiscation od assault rifles. He said it in his campaign and as president. Maybe he is not “fanatic” because that term is relative to a person’s view, but he is advocating for policies that will restrict 2A rights and make exercising the 2A rights we have harder to exercise. Now if that would actually reduce gun violence in the US I might swallow the pill, but it will not do anything but restrict our rights. ,
 
Biden and his ilk have SAID they want to ban certain firearms, parts, etc. He’s literally in the act of trying to make that happen, using all the tools at his disposal. Right now the most effective one he has is the ATF. We’re seeing and watching this happen. I don’t understand why people STILL don’t want to believe it, and make excuses for them. This stuff has literally happened in the past, and it’s being repeated now, by politicians who’ve made their intentions perfectly clear, but many still refuse to believe it.

Of COURSE they will use the excuse of “reducing crime”, just like E V E R Y other gun control bill / law / regulation that’s shoved down our throats. Fact is, whether it “reduces crime”, “gun violence”, or whatever else is irrelevant. There are PLENTY of rights and freedoms that we can trample and destroy that will help “reduce crime” and “save lives” as well. So what? That leads down a very oppressive road.
 
Lets hope our resident Biden fans are right and he can’t get the votes (a dumb reason to vote for avowed anties), but rest assured they will try, just like they did under Obama. If they succeed, well, I hope you’re ready to turn in guns or become a criminal.

Call and write your representatives folks. It’s game on, don’t doubt that.
 
Lets hope our resident Biden fans are right and he can’t get the votes (a dumb reason to vote for avowed anties), but rest assured they will try, just like they did under Obama. If they succeed, well, I hope you’re ready to turn in guns or become a criminal.

Call and write your representatives folks. It’s game on, don’t doubt that.
He certainly doesn’t need any votes to do what he’s doing now: Votes don't matter to the ATF. They can make up rules, we get to suffer under them, and then at some point down the road, maybe, just maybe, some court will say it’s unconstitutional. Backwards dystopia.
 
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/20/Democrats-gun-control-unity-495063
Democrats set to pare down gun control bills in aim for unity
Their point man on guns is preparing to vote on a scaled-down bill aimed at uniting the party and picking up a limited number of Republican votes.
Senate Democrats are struggling for the total unity they need on major infrastructure and elections bills. Their gun control point man is determined to avoid that kind of quicksand.

Instead, Democrats are preparing to vote on a scaled-down guns bill — most likely a curtailed plan to boost background checks for firearm buyers. The goal is to unite the party and pick up a limited number of Republican votes, even as their effort appears headed towards the same doomed fate as previous proposals to curb gun violence. Despite the all-but-certain GOP filibuster facing Democrats on guns, they’re well aware that a unified 50-vote Senate majority is the only way to put unmitigated political pressure on their opponents.

Murphy thinks he can get GOP votes and it's a first step to more.
 
Only lawyers and politicians would take something so plainly worded and convolute it to the point that we are now here, blithering on about “points” and, barrel length, and “unusually dangerous” (rolleyes) weapons.

This lunacy has been years in the making. When calls and comments are made, in addition to making specific points, also point out the complete, obvious, idiocy of all of this. Some politicians calling for gutting / getting rid of the ATF seems like a good start.
Not if their functions are rolled into the FBI.
 
Their first target are the self loaders or semi automatics. Next will be the manually loaded/operated repeaters. Banning guns until ONLY single shot 22 rimfire long guns are allowed ONLY at the gun club where they are locked safely away from their owners, except while actually target shooting.
 
If you think this is not really happening.
Let me remind you that at least half the country is in the process of being labeled and investigated as Domestic Terrorists.
We have just spent over a year under a National Emergency footing.
The military has just been used as Protection Against Citizens.

The term "follow the science" has been blathered 24hrs a day for months in supporting a worldwide lockdown.
Same term is merging all data into accessible bases for use by all government agencies to include those researching the
gun violence "epidemic"
What part of any of this do you think will not be used to further ANY AGENDA?
Start writing or start losing.
 
Get ready folks, it's coming.
The tide is actually turning toward the pro-gun side. We can see that in what's happening in the Senate, where the usual suspects are paring down the background check bill in hopes of getting Democratic support. (Unanimous Republican opposition is a foregone conclusion.) Certainly the bill can't reach the 60-vote filibuster threshold. At this point the whole thing is about posturing. Nothing will actually get passed.

The astronomical gun sales figures speak louder than a few Parkland "survivors" bleating on TV. The politicians are very good at picking up on indications like this. The antigun camp has to be very, very worried.
 
If you think this is not really happening.
Let me remind you that at least half the country is in the process of being labeled and investigated as Domestic Terrorists.
We have just spent over a year under a National Emergency footing.
The military has just been used as Protection Against Citizens.

The term "follow the science" has been blathered 24hrs a day for months in supporting a worldwide lockdown.
Same term is merging all data into accessible bases for use by all government agencies to include those researching the
gun violence "epidemic"
What part of any of this do you think will not be used to further ANY AGENDA?
Start writing or start losing.
PERFECT!
 
IOW a de facto registry.

It certainly would be/is a registry. Any gun or device that requires a NFA stamp is effectively registered. They just call the registry a database of tax payments. Disguised registries are not uncommon. For example. Buy a gun in PA and you have not,only pass NICS but also PICA. Which is the PA background check. That data base is controlled the the PA State Police. PA law prohibits State-controlled gun registries. So the PSP says it is not collecting data on gun owners but only keeping a database of PICS checks. Of course that database contains the data on all gun buyers but not the guns they currently have. It’s still a registry.
 
The astronomical gun sales figures speak louder than a few Parkland "survivors" bleating on TV.
Folks I know that 'Ol Joe and a bunch of Dems & Rhino's would love to ban guns altogether. I doubt this will ever happen. First the LEO and Military can't even keep our cities from being burned down and evidently no body can keep Chicago from killing it's people every single day?? I just don't think that most LEO or Military are going to be coming to your house or mine to confiscate guns. I am very afraid if they did,then these so called assault rifles would then actually be assault rifles. We have got to vote these crazy people out of office. Our country is better than this, we don't need another civil war!!
 
Their first target are the self loaders or semi automatics. Next will be the manually loaded/operated repeaters. Banning guns until ONLY single shot 22 rimfire long guns are allowed ONLY at the gun club where they are locked safely away from their owners, except while actually target shooting.

In all likelihood, a "shooting war" would happen before it came to that.
 
In all likelihood, a "shooting war" would happen before it came to that.
No. It wouldn’t. People will be blithering on about the legalities of their “tacticool” 10-22 aftermarket stock.

It isn’t 1770, and we humans are nowhere close to the type that were around back then.

We better prevent it, because we’re beyond fixing it.

We capitulated in 1934, in 1968, and in 1994. No reason to think anything different will happen if they do more.
 
The tide is actually turning toward the pro-gun side. We can see that in what's happening in the Senate, where the usual suspects are paring down the background check bill in hopes of getting Democratic support. (Unanimous Republican opposition is a foregone conclusion.) Certainly the bill can't reach the 60-vote filibuster threshold. At this point the whole thing is about posturing. Nothing will actually get passed.

The astronomical gun sales figures speak louder than a few Parkland "survivors" bleating on TV. The politicians are very good at picking up on indications like this. The antigun camp has to be very, very worried.
You get tiresome with all the blather about how anti gun Democrats aren't really anti gun and only want reasonable gun laws, and they don't have the votes, you know, for the children. They don't care one wit about anyone's safety, they prove that every day in what they vote for, they care about disarming you, period. Heck, they don't even lie about it anymore. Joe said so in his campaign, no one should own AR 15s, and that is just the start. They are coming after guns, if not today, tomorrow. Wake up and smell the coffee, stop voting for anti gun politicians, and then making excuses for them.
 
You get tiresome with all the blather about how anti gun Democrats aren't really anti gun and only want reasonable gun laws, and they don't have the votes, you know, for the children. They don't care one wit about anyone's safety, they prove that every day in what they vote for, they care about disarming you, period. Heck, they don't even lie about it anymore. Joe said so in his campaign, no one should own AR 15s, and that is just the start. They are coming after guns, if not today, tomorrow. Wake up and smell the coffee, stop voting for anti gun politicians, and then making excuses for them.
Amen! Hannibal is at the gates.
 
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