JR24
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Load a 147 grain flat point at around 1.125" OAL and see how they run.
Light strike city from my Gen 5s, had to go with 124 round nose and leave my favorite load to the 1911 and Sig 226.
Most RELIABLE 9mm handgun?
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Load a 147 grain flat point at around 1.125" OAL and see how they run.
Light strike city from my Gen 5s, had to go with 124 round nose and leave my favorite load to the 1911 and Sig 226.
nettlle
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1911's had a decent torture test.
Buzznrose
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One more thing, this is a great thread on another gun forum that was started by the owner of a high round count, rental only gun range in Las Vegas. They go through hundreds of thousands of rounds through their rental guns, and while he started out a Sig guy, has seen which guns hold up over many thousands of rounds...
https://www.ar15.com/forums/handguns/-/4-160140/?
https://www.ar15.com/forums/handguns/-/4-160140/?
maxxhavoc
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Well, to be honest, with your original criteria, reliability first, durability second, nothing else matters.....a T/C single shot 9mm pistol. Anyone who tells you different is biased. Not me, I don't like those at all.
But pick a modern full size Sig/Glock/S&W/Ruger and reliability is so close to be a non issue.
But pick a modern full size Sig/Glock/S&W/Ruger and reliability is so close to be a non issue.
Buzznrose
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I shoot CCI Lawman 147 flat nose pretty regularly and never had an issue. I don't know the OAL. I also have shot Underwood Ammo 147 FN FMJ and FN hard cast...again, no issues. But again, I do not know the OAL.
As far as light primer strikes, call Glock and tell them you're having light strikes and to send you a new striker spring...
md7
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Really most any modern semi auto produced by a reputable manufacturer is going to be good.
Just to keep it simple, and list one. Glock 19
Just to keep it simple, and list one. Glock 19
JR24
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Nah, I'm pretty sure it was the fat bullet occasionally bound up on the tighter throat and didn't get full lock up. Reducing OAL fixed it, probably shorter with the factory 147.
Same problem occured with two different 19s and a 19x so I'm sure it's the ammo.
Yes his threads are very enlightening to say the least. Guns that you would thing would run great under those conditions do not do so. While other cheaper brands running great. And on his AR15 thread, it has been proven that Palmetto State Armory rifles hold up as well if not better than some of the top tear brands.
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Of five semi-auto handguns I own, only the two CZs (a 75B and a CZ Custom SP-01) have been "zero-failure" to date. I do have a Glock 30 with which I have experienced only a single jam.
Ignition Override
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My choices have been gun ‘brands’ which were issued to police or military units: German-made Sigs (each has proof marks) , CZ, Walther and S&W 3rd Gen. I own all of these, to own variety and Quality.
But use OEM mags for 'carry'….not the cheap copies which most people seem to trust only when shooting practice targets— After a gun’s reliability is verified with OEM mags and reliable ammo.
But use OEM mags for 'carry'….not the cheap copies which most people seem to trust only when shooting practice targets— After a gun’s reliability is verified with OEM mags and reliable ammo.
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tactikel
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Glock any 9mm.
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I'm not a Glock fan although I do have one, but if dependability and durability are the main concerns, Glock.
entropy
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Watch it; my suggestion for a 9mm revolver was 'disappeared' because this is the autoloader subforum, even if the OP asked about a 9mm handgun, not specifically a semi-auto. .
Pistolay
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In my experience, nothing is more reliable than a Glock 26. However, I expect that the G17 and G19 are just as reliable.
DeepSouth
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Sig 226, but what do I know, I just buy what I want. Which is normally a 45.
Mosin77
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I think to answer this question is to try to split a hair…into eighths. Say what you will about almost any modern 9mm handgun… they may be too ugly, too expensive, too cheap, too narrow, too fat, trigger too mushy, trigger too light, equipped with a pointless safety, not equipped with a safety, etc etc. But almost none of them are considered anything less than 100% reliable. Pretty impressive engineering, really.
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All those hours we spent at the 7-11 reading the gun mags back in the 1980s, and I don’t recall them saying anything about cleaning your guns.That does beg the question of ... why?
Just because you can (neglect cleaning) doesn't mean you should
And yes, those Rugers were tanks.
pairof44sp
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I’ve always wondered why the Berettas are just about the only guns that have an open top slide. It seems like stuff would get in there, And it seems like a strange gun to pick for an army that’s gearing up for desert warfare
UncleEd
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The trouble with asking about the most
reliable 9mm handgun is that most
answers here have not factored in
maintenance but have equated
reliability to some sort of expected
durability.
Some have stated their preference
for the 1911. OK, all well and good
but maintenance is an important
factor. For instance long-term
reliability must be tied to regular
changing of springs: recoil spring
every 2,000 rounds; firing pin spring
every 5,000 and hammer spring
every 25,000 rounds. Can the gun
operate by going longer times on
those springs? Certainly, but it's
not ideal.
In the report from the Las Vegas
rental range, it was indicated that
Sig 226s needed very regular
recoil spring replacement. OK,
so learn what is optimum and do it.
Don't just run the gun until the spring
is so weak that the frame and slide
are put under a lot of extra stress.
This goes for all guns as a matter of
fact without even mentioning regular
routines of cleaning depending on the
particular guns involved.
reliable 9mm handgun is that most
answers here have not factored in
maintenance but have equated
reliability to some sort of expected
durability.
Some have stated their preference
for the 1911. OK, all well and good
but maintenance is an important
factor. For instance long-term
reliability must be tied to regular
changing of springs: recoil spring
every 2,000 rounds; firing pin spring
every 5,000 and hammer spring
every 25,000 rounds. Can the gun
operate by going longer times on
those springs? Certainly, but it's
not ideal.
In the report from the Las Vegas
rental range, it was indicated that
Sig 226s needed very regular
recoil spring replacement. OK,
so learn what is optimum and do it.
Don't just run the gun until the spring
is so weak that the frame and slide
are put under a lot of extra stress.
This goes for all guns as a matter of
fact without even mentioning regular
routines of cleaning depending on the
particular guns involved.
2ndtimer
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Unless someone accidentally loads ammo with small rifle primers. Don’t ask me how I know.
My two for the list is a second gen Glock 17 that I bought new in the early 90s. Probably about 7K rounds through it without an issue. I have had a couple of failure to lock into battery but they were both because of issues with ammo. I would also put the Walther PPQ M1 in there as well but it probably only has 1K of ammo through it as well.
Truth be told I have never had a firearm give me any problems other than my Glock 30 which would stovepipe. After about 300 rounds it cleared up and ran like a champ from then on. (no I was not limp wristing it).
I agree with the others, get a good name brand pistol and it will run for a very long time. Almost none of us will put 50K - 100K rounds through out guns and at some point the whole most reliable become moot or we don't have enough data to make an informed decision. There is no mechanical device that won't fail eventually.
You get the most reliable pistol ever made, that doesn't mean you can shoot crap ammo though it and always have it work. You want uber high round counts there are going to be wear items that need replaced. You have to give some level of care to the gun. You can't expect to shoot 100K rounds through it and never clean or oil it. At some point in the high round counts, you will be the biggest factor to how the weapon functions.
Truth be told I have never had a firearm give me any problems other than my Glock 30 which would stovepipe. After about 300 rounds it cleared up and ran like a champ from then on. (no I was not limp wristing it).
I agree with the others, get a good name brand pistol and it will run for a very long time. Almost none of us will put 50K - 100K rounds through out guns and at some point the whole most reliable become moot or we don't have enough data to make an informed decision. There is no mechanical device that won't fail eventually.
You get the most reliable pistol ever made, that doesn't mean you can shoot crap ammo though it and always have it work. You want uber high round counts there are going to be wear items that need replaced. You have to give some level of care to the gun. You can't expect to shoot 100K rounds through it and never clean or oil it. At some point in the high round counts, you will be the biggest factor to how the weapon functions.
Trey Veston
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As a 12B, I ran into some issues with my M9. Not impressed.
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