Hodgdon Buys Blackhorn 209 Brand from Western Powders

arcticap · Oct 1, 2020

Hodgdon Powder Company is pleased to announce the acquisition of the Ramshot and Accurate smokeless powder brands
and the Blackhorn 209 muzzleloader brand from Western Powders.
This acquisition is effective October 1, 2020, with the company set to immediately begin shipping these new products to wholesale and retail customers. --->>> https://www.internationalsportsman.com/hodgdon-acquires-ramshot-accurate-and-blackhorn-209/

Patocazador · Oct 1, 2020

Now they have a monopoly on the most popular powders available. Look for prices to go sky high.

Blackpowderwarrior · Oct 5, 2020

I love Hodgdon company. Wish i clould work for em!

bobbytucson · Oct 15, 2020

what will this mean for ramshot zip and silhouette powder? zip looks and behaves almost identical to hp-38 but is from belgium. i hope hodgdon doesnt drop it, because is cleaner and tighter than hp-38

arcticap · Jul 28, 2021

Patocazador said:
Now they have a monopoly on the most popular powders available. Look for prices to go sky high.

BH 209 is for sale on the Cabela's website for $50 /jug, but offer $10 off for signing up for their newsletter.
This is the first time that I've seen it available since the buy out.
The other large powder dealers that I checked still don't have any BH 209 in stock. --->>> https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/blackhorn-209-high-performance-muzzleloading-powder

Dave T · Jul 28, 2021

Next thing you know they'll be making a bid on APP. Hodgdon would have the BP substitute market wrapped up.

Maybe APP would be more widely available if that happened. Black-MZ was easy to get for the short time they were selling it.

Dave

Blackpowderwarrior · Jul 29, 2021

Dave T said:
Next thing you know they'll be making a bid on APP. Hodgdon would have the BP substitute market wrapped up.

Maybe APP would be more widely available if that happened. Black-MZ was easy to get for the short time they were selling it.

Dave

I hate I missed out on Black MZ but I heard good things about it. I prefer the holy black for sound and ignition but would use a substitute in a pinch if I didn't have any Black in stock

arcticap · Jul 30, 2021

Someone just posted a new photo.
A Walmart in Carthage, Tennessee just got in their muzzle loading supplies for hunting season, and they have a bunch of Blackhorn 209 priced at $36.86.
The bottle has a new blue label.

Dave T · Jul 31, 2021

Blackpowderwarrior said:
I hate I missed out on Black MZ but I heard good things about it. I prefer the holy black for sound and ignition but would use a substitute in a pinch if I didn't have any Black in stock

Bpw,

I too prefer the original "gun powder" to any of the subs. However, I have a S&W Schofield Model of 2000 that won't go through 4 rounds before gumming up so tightly I cannot advance the cylinder by cocking the hammer and barely turn it with my free had while pulling the hammer back. The only thing that makes me able to shoot that gun, without resorting to those newfangled smokeless powders, is the one pound of Black-MZ I have left over from trying it in my 45 Colt's cartridges. I can't find APP locally but I keep hoping, for the sake of the Schofield.

Dave

Blackpowderwarrior · Aug 1, 2021

Dave T said:
Bpw,

I too prefer the original "gun powder" to any of the subs. However, I have a S&W Schofield Model of 2000 that won't go through 4 rounds before gumming up so tightly I cannot advance the cylinder by cocking the hammer and barely turn it with my free had while pulling the hammer back. The only thing that makes me able to shoot that gun, without resorting to those newfangled smokeless powders, is the one pound of Black-MZ I have left over from trying it in my 45 Colt's cartridges. I can't find APP locally but I keep hoping, for the sake of the Schofield.

Dave

I'm sorry to hear about your Schofield brother. I have seen APP on the internet a few times but never locally. Its easier for me to break down and pay the hazardous material fee and order online then go through the motions to Maybe find some locally. Have you tried Old eyensford in your Schofield yet? Compared to red label Goex it's about 1/3 as dirty after each shot. I think they may not use graphite in the OE formulation of GOEX. I honestly feel OE is the same formulation of regular Goex Minus the graphite and then sifted extra through a much smaller sieve

Dave T · Aug 1, 2021

Bpw,

I don't shoot anything but Ol' E. Twenty seven grains of OE FFFg behind Big-lube bullets jamed up the Schofield cylinder on the 4th shot.

Dave

Roverguy · Aug 1, 2021

Dave T said:
Bpw,

I too prefer the original "gun powder" to any of the subs. However, I have a S&W Schofield Model of 2000 that won't go through 4 rounds before gumming up so tightly I cannot advance the cylinder by cocking the hammer and barely turn it with my free had while pulling the hammer back. The only thing that makes me able to shoot that gun, without resorting to those newfangled smokeless powders, is the one pound of Black-MZ I have left over from trying it in my 45 Colt's cartridges. I can't find APP locally but I keep hoping, for the sake of the Schofield.

Dave

Unfortunately the complete lack of bushing ring at the front of the cylinder on those Model of 2000s means fouling is an almost insurmountable issue. You might try duplexing to see if you can diminish residue. 2 grains of a pistol powder like Bullseye under your 3ffg BP load may get clean enough combustion to get you through a full cylinder.

Nipty · Aug 6, 2021

My local Walmart is now selling an impressive line of black powder and amenities for it.

Jackrabbit1957 · Aug 7, 2021

Wish my local Wally World would get off their duffs and put something, anything BP or otherwise on the shelves. You can't even find air rifle ammo.

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