Post and Dot style pistol sights

https://www.brownells.com/handgun-p...essor-height-sights-for-glock--prod78053.aspx

If you've used a no - frills Beretta M9, it's kind of similar - just tacticalized in typical tactical warrior fashion.

They do work pretty well for quick silhouette shots.

daniel craig said:

Has anyone used these?

the back sight is just a shallow V shape with a vertical line and the front sight is just a dot. Seems like this would be good for quick acquisition but I have no idea.

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XS Sights makes sights in this 'lollipop' style. I dislike them, they are fast but imprecise without more practice apparently than I had. Plus, the abundance of more standard sight shapes that now have the majority of the benefit of the big 'dot' - Trijicon HD, etc. with a big orange, yellow, green, or red ring around the front sight tritium and much smaller white rings around the rear sight tritium vials, means you can get more precise sights that are just as fast in my opinion.

I had a set of XS big dot sights on a glock and they were great for close, fast, and moving shots, but I never was able to be as quick at longer shots as I wanted (while maintaining accuracy).

I switched them out with Ameriglo I Dots which have a front sight very similar to the Trijicon HD sights and a standard notch rear with a single tritium vial at 6 o’clock. I think it’s a good compromise between an attention grabbing front sight for close/fast shooting and a more traditional sight picture that is useful at distance.

Telekinesis said:

I had a set of XS big dot sights on a glock and they were great for close, fast, and moving shots, but I never was able to be as quick at longer shots as I wanted (while maintaining accuracy).

I switched them out with Ameriglo I Dots which have a front sight very similar to the Trijicon HD sights and a standard notch rear with a single tritium vial at 6 o’clock. I think it’s a good compromise between an attention grabbing front sight for close/fast shooting and a more traditional sight picture that is useful at distance.

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Very much the same, but I went with the square box Ameriglo CAP on my Glocks. Have the HD on my HK and I really like those too.

Madcap_Magician said:

XS Sights makes sights in this 'lollipop' style. I dislike them, they are fast but imprecise without more practice apparently than I had. Plus, the abundance of more standard sight shapes that now have the majority of the benefit of the big 'dot' - Trijicon HD, etc. with a big orange, yellow, green, or red ring around the front sight tritium and much smaller white rings around the rear sight tritium vials, means you can get more precise sights that are just as fast in my opinion.

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Agree generally with this. They are just pistol versions of the express sight, as used mostly (originally?) on dangerous game rifles. In the good old days, the guide would certainly have one on his rifle for a safari, etc. You as the paying hunter likely would not because you are taking a carefully aimed shot at the end of a careful stalk, so want that precision, and may well not be so trained so a sight easier to center up is important. The guide is generally set up to take a snapshot at close and rapidly closing range that must not hit, but location is less critical than A Hit.



This is basically a step better (more precise) than simply snapshooting.

The theory is that handguns are always used like that, in defense, at close range, where any hit Now is better than a good hit In A Moment. I am not at all sure I agree as notch-and-post pistol sights are just fine, bright fronts give you the same snapshooting capability, etc. Express sights are harder to line up — as stated — when you have the spare time so there's no fallback when you need to make the longer range or more precise shot because the first ones aren't doing it.

But... some people like them. No real way to tell until you try them of course, but if you do, get data to not fool yourself. See your scores per time, at various ranges and lighting conditions then run the same drills with the new sights once used to them, and see if better or worse.

Post and dot is not just...

daniel craig said:

the back sight is just a shallow V shape with a vertical line and the front sight is just a dot.

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Von Stavenhagen style has been used by SIG, and as mentioned above, the Beretta M9.
https://www.realgunreviews.com/brief-history-von-stavenhagen-sights/

They are different than "express sights" as would typically be described like the XS Big Dots https://www.xssights.com/Handgun_Sights_Brand_Selection_Page_pr-8208.aspx

There are also dot over dot like Heinie Straight 8's https://www.heinie.com/1911-classic-style-straight-eight-sight-set.html

There is also the horizontal bar and dot like Ameriglo CAP sights https://ameriglo.com/products/listing/glock-cap-sight-sets

I have not tried a rear V/front dot, but I much prefer the rear post/front dot over the common three-dot. Chose the M9 over the 92FS because of the sights on the M9. I also like the Glock horseshoe/front dot.

Post and dot is Kahr's standard sight. Walther used them for years. Personally I like three dots.

One of my 1911s came with a blackout rear notch with a white front sight. I changed it to a 3 dot sight within a week after the first range visit. My Walther Q4 also had the same kind of black rear notch. I replaced that with an optic. In short, no I don't like them.

I despise them, myself. Even on a rifle I prefer a square notch over a V, finding it nearly as fast and much more accurate. On a handgun, with its much shorter sight radius, the speed difference amounts to essentially nothing, while accuracy goes straight to hell. To each his own, as always, but I personally have no use at all for a V on a handgun.

Of the post-and-notch sights fitted with dots, I can take them or leave them. I assume the various glow-in-the-dark dots are useful for low-light situations but do not have enough experience with such scenarios to really say. I find dots, lines, etc. somewhat distracting otherwise, and prefer plain, soft black for maximum precision, but can still manage dots when necessary.

Dot the I iron sights are my favorite, I just wish I could get them for more handguns than old Sigs and Kahrs.

For fast reaction, close in combat shooting I doubt you’ll even use sights. I don’t until I’m shooting at 15 feet or more in these situations. When focusing on the threat, the background, other possible threats, your family, whatever, looking toward sights and attaining a sight picture won’t happen.

It may have been Jim Cirillo (Maybe it’s Ayoob or Leatham?) who had a close combat drill where they trained folks by placing tape over the rear sight and having the shooters use the shape of the gun as a sighting tool for close in gunfighting rather than sights. This skill works great in these fast situations, and practiced shooters will shoot amazingly well should they utilize this type of drill.


A few of Cirilo’s thoughts:
https://warriorlife.com/featured/jim-cirillo-3-confessions-of-modern-day-gunfighter/


If you can get his book Guns, bullets snd gunfights it’s a good read. Obviously it’s dated equipment and ammo-wise, as almost all classic handgunning books are (Sixguns, No Second Place Winner, etc.) but the technique and mindset stuff is really good.

Stay safe.

I've got XS big dots. I actually prefer the medium dot they make. These are lightning fast sight acquisition, but you need to train with them to be proficient. They aren't 50yd sights, strictly self defense. I like the TruGlo TFX sights better for ll around use.

As far as the XS glow in the dark, they light up like headlights.

Junk.

Pistol sights should err towards longer distance accuracy. XS bigdots work great at ranges where I really don't even need sights, and then they are far slower at long ranges. It's a lose lose situation. Worst $80 I've ever spent.

I first saw an XS sight set on a used Kimber 1911 at a gun show, I asked if the precious owner was Mr Magoo.


The basic design is sound on rifles with a gold bead front preferred. My .357 Mag Marlin lever gun had them and they worked great, but with the short sight radius of a handgun just too much ambiguity in the alignment. I'm with Zerodefect they can be very fast at ranges you don't really to use sights.