whughett
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Is there another way. 
Instructions listed in an ad for once fired 45C cases.
Instructions listed in an ad for once fired 45C cases.
Spent primers are still in the cases and should be removed before beginning the reloading process
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lordpaxman
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Indeed. Did they have a CA Prop 65 warning as well? (Apologies to CA forum residents)
Charlie98
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Well... and you know... if they didn't say that, someone would say... hey, you didn't tell me they had defective primers in them!
RealGun
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If the brass was cleaned by liquid, the primers could give you fits when decapping on a progressive. It's as if they become glued in place.
jmorris
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Most people would poke them out with the decapping stem in the size die. The primers fall out before the case is fully sized.
If you are going to tell me that doing both concurrently is not removing the primers before starting the reloading process, I’d just say removing the primers is starting the reloading process.
That said, there are always different ways to do things. I suppose I would call this machine I built an extension of my sorting processes vs reloading.
If you are going to tell me that doing both concurrently is not removing the primers before starting the reloading process, I’d just say removing the primers is starting the reloading process.
That said, there are always different ways to do things. I suppose I would call this machine I built an extension of my sorting processes vs reloading.
I found this to be true in spades when I bought some once-fired AA hulls.
SUPER clean hulls... and a BEAR
to get the primers out using a MEC-600.Might be easier in brass cases/smaller primer "grab" surfaces w/ the leverage of a reloading press though....
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All I can say is "wow".
I have to respectfully disagree. I've loaded tens of thousands of rounds on a Dillon 550 and 750. The 550 got dirty from the primers, but the spent primer system on the 750 is much better. No particular problem from wet tumbling, then decapping and resizing on the progressive.
A lot of reloading processes are personal preferance and "decapping first vs clean first" is one. I normally quickie inspect then throw my brass in my rotary (clean not polish) then reload. Wet tumblers quite often decap first, as noted above, but for dry tumbling it's six of one half dozen of another...
I see some many of those warnings that I'm beginning to believe that everything in California causes birth defects, that's why that state is the way it is.
You need to push the primers out first before tumbling so the primer pockets get some what clean. The new primer seats better in a flat bottomed clean pocket.
As I was loading up some 12ga I wondered if anyone cleaned shotshell hulls like they do metallic cases, I guess you answered my thoughts.I found this to be true in spades when I bought some once-fired AA hulls.
SUPER clean hulls... and a BEAR
Might be easier in brass cases/smaller primer "grab" surfaces w/ the leverage of a reloading press though....
RealGun
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There can be no disagreement about what my experience has been. Your mileage may vary.
RealGun
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I decided not to do that because Win AA HS is two piece and I was concerned that moisture would remain under the cup without extensive drying. I was definitely not interested in decapping first.
FROGO207
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I see so many of those warnings that drinking water, eating, and creating things that require birth can create birth defects if studied long enough ln CA.
Heck shooting firearms and reloading have already killed us, we are just too stupid to realize this yet!!!
More head shaking from me.
Charlie98
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But the real question is... which came first, the birth defects or the belief that everything causes birth defects. Personally, I think being in California for a prolonged period of time causes brain damage or something, judging by what's happening out there.
Back to the thread...
When I was reloading shotshell, I decided to run a handful of AA hulls through my vibratory loaded with walnut. Things did not turn out well... the static generated by the plastic hull made any minute crumb of anything cling to the hull like glue.
Don't you just hate it when a plan does not come together.
The warning to deprime cases probably falls into the same CYA category as vendors adding a caution that new cases are not loaded ammunition.
Bottom Gun
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I've bought 9MM brass that had been cleaned with a liquid cleaner of some kind. The liquid must have seeped into the pockets then dried and acted like an adhesive. Some primers were unusually hard to push out and some primers actually came apart. The bottoms of the primer cups broke off but left the sides of the cups bonded to the primer pockets. It's real a show stopper.
I had a buddy that cleaned his plastic hulls in the washing machine in a mesh bag. When his wife wasn't home of course. LOL
.308 Norma
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Probably. Before the current "crisis," I was seeing that same caution ("not loaded ammunition") on the shelves of bullets in more than one sporting goods store.
BTW, even my wife read the original post and said, "Warnings like that are on packages nowadays because there are so many idiots out there, and that's frightening!"
Probably. Before the current "crisis," I was seeing that same caution ("not loaded ammunition") on the shelves of bullets in more than one sporting goods store.
BTW, even my wife read the original post and said, "Warnings like that are on packages nowadays because there are so many idiots out there, and that's frightening!"
I can't believe someone with the absence of knowledge that thinks empty cases or reloadable bullets are Loaded Ammunition even owning a firearm.
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I couldn't begin to count the number of times I have gone into a gun shop enquiring about a particular bullet and been asked "Bullets, or ammunition?" I figure store employees around the country are sick of processing refunds for angry customers: "The box says 'bullets' but these are just the heads!". It seems shocking to anyone on a board like this, but I assume that level of knowledge is fairly typical of the "average" gun owner in the U.S.
.308 Norma
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You're probably right. I often remember back 20 some years ago when my father-in-law, John and I were in Sportsman's Warehouse in Idaho Falls one afternoon. I was looking for something or the other (I don't remember what) and we were walking by the shelves of bullets.
Now John was a great guy, and I loved him. He just wasn't a gun person, and he hadn't been around guns of any kind since he was a kid.
Anyway, John stopped, looked at the price on the shelf for a box of Sierra 22 caliber rifle bullets (it was about $12.00 if I remember right) and exclaimed, "We used to buy twenty-two shells for fifty cents a box when I was a kid!"
I just nodded and agreed that prices are "a lot higher than they used to be." I couldn't see any sense in showing John that he wasn't looking at boxes of "twenty-two shells."
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FROGO207
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Sadly if someone can't figure out the difference in actual box size between 100 loaded 223 ammo and just a box of 100 223 projectiles sitting on the shelf we are doomed! Having to differentiate on line because without reading the description cause you are lazy I can see, but not in person LOL.
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As soon as you think you’ve idiot proofed something they just make better idiots.
I am impressed she got the Mag seated though…
FROGO207
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She may be smarter than we think. No way she will be suspended or blamed for shooting the perp in this case.
Yeah just when I get things figured out the rug gets jerked out from under me. SMH
Yeah just when I get things figured out the rug gets jerked out from under me. SMH
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