Russian Ammo Ban

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Can't believe what the Russians are doing.
Wait! This affects me?...

I'm going to use my intelligence to plan accordingly so that this is not an issue to myself And my family. There are so many political plays ongoing but this space is not for that discussion. Many restrictions on importation from Russia have been ongoing. Many manufacturers have plants in multiple countries. I think... dare I say in the midst of all my 2A comrades... that this specific issue is one that I can tolerate.
Just a personal opinion. Not right or wrong, just my opinion and it may change.
 
I didn't realize there was so much love for Russian and Putin here. It neatly coincides with a love of cheap ammo I suppose.

I dont think it's so much love of Russia or China as it is just not caring at all about from where or what regime it originates from as long as getting whats wanted for cheapest price..

Chinese sniper scopes ban?
 
I still got a pile of Russian steel ammo from a decade ago. It’s cheap and dirty, and I keep it for “just incase” . That’s it, I don’t shoot it, don’t like it. It just sits their. Will I sell it, No, it’s “just incase ammo”

my point is, who’s buying this stuff?
 
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Sanction on Russia.. not my politics vs others politics
 
My Mosin shoots very well with the Tula. I sure hope this ban gets turned around.
have you tried hand loading 7.62x54R? I have a bunch of brass, and I heard you can make some very accurate and consistent rounds for the 6’ long Mosin
 
I no longer purchase Russian ammo but I feel a ban or sanction on any item creates higher prices on it since there is less competition so I expect the price on ALL ammo to increase or to stay at the current inflated prices.
 
I still got a pile of Russian steel ammo from a decade ago. It’s cheap and dirty, and I keep it for “just incase” . That’s it, I don’t shoot it, don’t like it. It just sits their. Will I sell it, No, it’s “just incase ammo”

my point is, who’s buying this stuff?

In the past year or so it has been the most consistently available and cheapest option in 223, 9mm, commie cartridges, and even stuff like 38 special. Not every shooter is concerned with making the smallest groups, so it sells. The former buyers of this stuff will now be competing with the rest of us for the better quality ammo.
 
I still got a pile of Russian steel ammo from a decade ago. It’s cheap and dirty, and I keep it for “just incase” . That’s it, I don’t shoot it, don’t like it. It just sits their. Will I sell it, No, it’s “just incase ammo”

my point is, who’s buying this stuff?

I'd say most people who have guns chambered in 762x39, 762x54r, 9mm mak, 545x39. Its cheap, it works, lots of people buy it.
 
In the past year or so it has been the most consistently available and cheapest option in 223, 9mm, commie cartridges, and even stuff like 38 special. Not every shooter is concerned with making the smallest groups, so it sells. The former buyers of this stuff will now be competing with the rest of us for the better quality ammo.
good point!
 
I doubt it will have any impact on ammunition supplies except the boards causing more panic buying.

Wolf and others got around the earlier sanctions with their international manufacturing.
SGAmmo is already selling Wolf Gold ammo made in Taiwan and my guess is Wolf/Tulammo will likely move production to non-sanctioned countries. There is HUGE US market for cheap steel cased ammo for various pistol/rifle calibers and Wolf/Tulammo won't likely give up on that revenue source.

The Russia ammo sanction may give other countries a chance to ramp up their production to compete for that HUGE US market ... Armscor of Philippines for one.
 
SGAmmo is already selling Wolf Gold ammo made in Taiwan and my guess is Wolf/Tulammo will likely move production to non-sanctioned countries. There is HUGE US market for cheap steel cased ammo for various pistol/rifle calibers and Wolf/Tulammo won't likely give up on that revenue source.

The Russia ammo sanction may give other countries a chance to ramp up their production to compete for that HUGE US market ... Armscor of Philippines for one.
Armscor has become one of my favorite manufacturers.
 
SGAmmo is already selling Wolf Gold ammo made in Taiwan and my guess is Wolf/Tulammo will likely move production to non-sanctioned countries. There is HUGE US market for cheap steel cased ammo for various pistol/rifle calibers and Wolf/Tulammo won't likely give up on that revenue source.

The Russia ammo sanction may give other countries a chance to ramp up their production to compete for that HUGE US market ... Armscor of Philippines for one.

They almost certainly already did the ramp up, at least the easy stuff. Any additional capacity will take longer (year or more) and cost more, most likely.
 
They almost certainly already did the ramp up, at least the easy stuff. Any additional capacity will take longer (year or more) and cost more, most likely.
Factory machinery can be moved to another factory in a different country to continue production rather quickly.

Wolf/Tulammo likely has sufficient financial resources to set up new factory production in a different country in short time (Money talks).

And there are many ammunition manufacturers around the world that would love to jump in to capture the market share while Wolf/Tulammo recover.

Follow the money. With US pullout of Afghanistan, demand for small arms cartridges will fall and US contract ammunition manufacturers would want to keep their production lines going. Russia ammo ban looks "convenient" for domestic ammunition manufacturers to shift production while "ammo shortage" continues. ;)
 
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Factory machinery can be moved to another factory in a different country to continue production rather quickly.

Wolf/Tulammo likely has sufficient financial resources to set up new factory production in a different country in short time (Money talks).

And there are many ammunition manufacturers around the world that would love to jump in to capture the market share while Wolf/Tulammo recover.

Follow the money. With US pullout of Afghanistan, demand for small arms cartridges will fall and US contract ammunition manufacturers would want to keep their production lines going. Russia ammo ban looks "convenient" for domestic ammunition manufacturers to shift production while "ammo shortage" continues. ;)
Reloading members have invaded the General forum. You know they like us locked away in the Hand loading section
 
IMO, this panic will amount to nothing.

Other manufacturers will ramp up production to fill the vacuum. Or Russian producers will set up operations in other countries. Wolf already manufactures in Taiwan. Red Army Standard has facilities in Ukraine, Romania, Poland, and Bosnia. And none of those countries are on this new ban or the State Dept list of proscribed countries

In the short term the only thing that's going to affect prices is the panic buying inspired by this nothing-burger of a ban.
 
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I’m in the middle of what was supposed to be a 7.62x39 build. I guess I’ll pause that project.


Keep building, The panic will end. Other manufacturers will fill the void, and russian producers will set up in other countries (like Wolf and RAS already have).

If anything, you may see a drop in prices for 7.62x39 AK-hardware for a brief period.
 
IMO, this panic will amount to nothing.

Other manufacturers will ramp up production to fill the vacuum. Or Russian producers will set up operations in other countries. Wolf already manufactures in Taiwan. Red Army Standard has facilities in Ukraine, Romania, Poland, and Bosnia. And none of those countries are on this new ban or the State Dept list of proscribed countries

In the short term the only thing that's going to affect prices is the panic buying inspired by this nothing-burger of a ban.

I’m praying this is the case.

My Kalashnikov is on standby with 1700 rounds of ammunition and will not be used until things become more stabilized. My intent is to retain efficiency with the platform via dry fire and weapons manipulation/reloading drills supplemented with (possibly very) occasional live fire depending on availability.

It’s getting to the point where I can only fire my .22s for recreation at this point.
 
My Kalashnikov is on standby with 1700 rounds of ammunition and will not be used until things become more stabilized.
And for many reasons, I replaced my AKs with ARs.

It’s getting to the point where I can only fire my .22s for recreation at this point.
And why I got CMMG 22LR conversion kits so I can continue to enjoy my ARs while ammunition/component prices come back down.

I stocked deep with 22LR when they were $16-$20/500. (I only shoot copper plated/washed 22LR in my ARs)
 
I’m praying this is the case.

My Kalashnikov is on standby with 1700 rounds of ammunition and will not be used until things become more stabilized. My intent is to retain efficiency with the platform via dry fire and weapons manipulation/reloading drills supplemented with (possibly very) occasional live fire depending on availability.

It’s getting to the point where I can only fire my .22s for recreation at this point.

These panics always amount to nothing.

Once the panic prices simmer down, there will likely still be a small bump in average price per round, but it won't be enough to sell off entire sks and ak collections.
 
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