jimbo555
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Have a chance to buy a Sig p225 original made in Germany. Box and 3 mags included. Has night sights and looks unfired. Asking price is 900. Thoughts?
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That price seems in line with the newer 225-A1 that supposedly has an improved trigger, front strap checkering and perhaps some other improvements.
Older 225's might have trouble feeding hollow points: https://www.edcforums.com/threads/keep-or-sell-or-just-retire-sig-p225.116600/
Night sights lose luminescence over time. I think 2010 was the last year of original 225 production (https://www.defensivecarry.com/threads/sig-sauer-p225-the-original.374809/) so that is something to consider.
I heard an internet rumor that the 225A1 is going to be discontinued (https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/sig-225-a-1-discontinued.866168/) so if you really want a single stack traditional Sig, or just like collecting German made Sigs, I guess it could be worth it.
Older 225's might have trouble feeding hollow points: https://www.edcforums.com/threads/keep-or-sell-or-just-retire-sig-p225.116600/
Night sights lose luminescence over time. I think 2010 was the last year of original 225 production (https://www.defensivecarry.com/threads/sig-sauer-p225-the-original.374809/) so that is something to consider.
I heard an internet rumor that the 225A1 is going to be discontinued (https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/sig-225-a-1-discontinued.866168/) so if you really want a single stack traditional Sig, or just like collecting German made Sigs, I guess it could be worth it.
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1KPerDay
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Price is a tad too high, but a great pistol. Truly unfired it might be worth it. Maybe offer $750 and go to $800? Or get it... it's your money and you won't be disappointed in the pistol.
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FYI if night sights were original they'll be dead by now. Mine are.
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jimbo555
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I don't really need it but I'm a suckered for anything with German proof marks.
.455_Hunter
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I have one in the safe waiting on my son's 18 or 21 B-Day.
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Bear in mind that the 225A1 isn't a reintroduction of the 225, but a redressed 239
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jimbo555
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Thank you all for the information. Evaluating my funds.
NIGHTLORD40K
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I have the P6 police version of the 225. I have access to virtually any handgun you can think of and the P6 has been my most constant companion over the last 15 years.
The civilian 225 does command a premium over the P6. Heck, the original "zipperback" magazines are worth $75 each by themselves.
If you get it, you wont ever regret spending the money. They are fantastic pistols.
The civilian 225 does command a premium over the P6. Heck, the original "zipperback" magazines are worth $75 each by themselves.
If you get it, you wont ever regret spending the money. They are fantastic pistols.
The big difference between the 225 and the 225A1 is that the 225 has the folded slide while the 225A1 has a milled slide.
I wonder if the seller is pricing his pistol based on the 225A1
I wonder if the seller is pricing his pistol based on the 225A1
That's true. I think I spent $375 for my P6
1KPerDay
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And the gripframe is different, and the trigger and trigger guard are different, and the mags don't interchange.
Jim Watson
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A leading example of confusing model numbers.
I imagined a P239 with grips shaped like P225 but inletted to fit the different frame. Lots cheaper than a new gun with nothing in common.
I imagined a P239 with grips shaped like P225 but inletted to fit the different frame. Lots cheaper than a new gun with nothing in common.
I think that $900.00 is a little high for a 225 and a lot too high for a P-6. If we are talking about a "real" 225 and not the 239 based knock off called the 225A1, I would pass.at $900 and I really like the 225. I have a civilian 225 and a P-6 police trade in.
The feeding problems of the P-6 are well known and real. My P-6 will not feed any hollow point, except the COR BON Powerball which uses a plastic pellet inserted in the hollow point. I have not tried FEDERAL Guard Dog, but it may work too. A Dutch cop, told me that he was issued the P-6 and it worked fine with the German GECO Action Safety ammo. This ammo used a plug in the hollow point.
My 225, on the other hand will shoot everything. I have read that +P ammo is not recommended for the 225, but I have not had any problem with it.
The big reason for buying a 225 or P-6 is the grip. It is very ergonomic and fits my average size hand better than any other handgun that I have shot. It is extremely comfortable to shoot and very well made. It is a fine 9m.m. pistol, but is as bulky and heavy as many double stack 9m.m. pistols. My SIG 229 is a 9m.m. and just as easy to conceal, if not easier to conceal.
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The feeding problems of the P-6 are well known and real. My P-6 will not feed any hollow point, except the COR BON Powerball which uses a plastic pellet inserted in the hollow point. I have not tried FEDERAL Guard Dog, but it may work too. A Dutch cop, told me that he was issued the P-6 and it worked fine with the German GECO Action Safety ammo. This ammo used a plug in the hollow point.
My 225, on the other hand will shoot everything. I have read that +P ammo is not recommended for the 225, but I have not had any problem with it.
The big reason for buying a 225 or P-6 is the grip. It is very ergonomic and fits my average size hand better than any other handgun that I have shot. It is extremely comfortable to shoot and very well made. It is a fine 9m.m. pistol, but is as bulky and heavy as many double stack 9m.m. pistols. My SIG 229 is a 9m.m. and just as easy to conceal, if not easier to conceal.
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Plan2Live
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I love Sigs and DA/SA triggers. I wish the P6/225 trigger didn't feel like a Nagant revolver.
Jim Watson
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As I understand it, P225 has a tough trigger pull due to action geometry. P6 has an even tougher trigger pull for military primers.
You can put in a softer mainspring but be sure to test for ignition of US commercial primers.
There are a couple of gunsmiths who do mechanical work on them to improve the layout.
https://www.thesigarmorer.com/#home-1
I cannot find a www for Total Automation but the sigarmorer has licensed his approach.
You can put in a softer mainspring but be sure to test for ignition of US commercial primers.
There are a couple of gunsmiths who do mechanical work on them to improve the layout.
https://www.thesigarmorer.com/#home-1
I cannot find a www for Total Automation but the sigarmorer has licensed his approach.
NIGHTLORD40K
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There were two different feed ramp profiles and many P6 were upgraded with the later barrel. Mine has the upgrade and feeds HP perfectly
"I spent $375 for my P6"
AIMS was selling it $250, I didn't get one but couples years later I bought it from a local FTF at $250. It is a great shooter, factory mag is expensive but ProMag works in my P6.
"P6 has an even tougher trigger". Double action is heavy but fine in single action.
AIMS was selling it $250, I didn't get one but couples years later I bought it from a local FTF at $250. It is a great shooter, factory mag is expensive but ProMag works in my P6.
"P6 has an even tougher trigger". Double action is heavy but fine in single action.
commygun
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I agree with those who say the price is too high. I've had a P225 and a P6. Very nice Euro-iconic pistols, but once I had them in hand I found I was asking myself what they were doing that lighter, more compact, easier-to-shoot single-stack 9s couldn't do for me. Sig collectors should go for it but, I would bet, for many others it would be a passing fancy.
1KPerDay
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My P225 feels like any other DA SIG, which is to say very USABLE and better the more you shoot it.
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jimbo555
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I forgot to mention it has 2 barrels, one threaded. Not sure how much that adds to the value.
1KPerDay
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$125ish if new
Right on the money Cdnn sport had some for $100 also for 226.
.455_Hunter
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My personal P225 is an early "Montage Suisse" Swiss police example with the heel mag release (lefty benefit) and canton crest on the side. It has definitely been around the block a few times, and still has the serialed original barrel. I have yet to experience a jam, but most of the hollow points shot have intentionally been the ramp friendly Fed and Rem/UMC 115 gr JHP round profile loads. I did try one mag of Hornady Custom 147 gr XTP and they worked fine, but wouldn't trust it without extensive validation given other folks experiences.
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