NRA Headquarters…deteriorating???

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OneFreeTexan

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I have recently read that the building is in bad shape. The roof is leaking, during the recent heavy rains, many rooms were damaged, water was even leaking into the vaults. How safe is the Museum now? America’s treasures, American heritage…I donated a gun to the museum years ago,, if it is not being taken care of , can I have it back? There should be at least one NRA director on this forum that can tell us what is going one with the building.
If not, is there someone on here who says lives within 50 miles of the building, that could drive there, walk the building and report back to us.. I’d even pay for their gas.
 
I live ten minutes' drive from the NRA building, but I have never been inside. No reason to go. The last time I visited the NRA Museum, it was at the old headquarters at 1600 Rhode Island Avenue in the District.

Maybe you have given me a reason to check it out.

I think it would be real good, if you checked it out…..Thank you for offering.
 
What are we paying all those executives at the NRA to do, again? Isn't one of them in charge of grounds and maintenance ?
Shouldn't they be sending us a refund, on their outrageously overpriced salary, if they're not doing their job ?
 
They have another powerful adversary now. Biden. Maybe we need to stick together for a couple of days.

Or we could solve part of this problem by nuking the NRA off the face of this earth and say we taught the NRA a good lesson.

I don't think you read the thread and are over reacting a bit, no one attacked the NRA nor called for its destruction. I would LOVE to see the NRA come back to its former glory!

I have given them a lot of $$ over the years so am suffering some sour grapes over what they have done. I think I, and others, have earned that right.
 
I don't think you read the thread and are over reacting a bit, no one attacked the NRA nor called for its destruction. I would LOVE to see the NRA come back to its former glory!

I have given them a lot of $$ over the years so am suffering some sour grapes over what they have done. I think I, and others, have earned that right.
Absolutely all members definitely have the right to criticize the leadership.
 
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On The Well-Dressed 800 Pound Gorilla

The bastiges won. They've been after the 6-million member organization for decades.

I don't know about you, but I'd like the exec for my lobbying organization to wear $500 shoes, $1000 suits, $75 shirts, and $50 ties when addressing the news or my representative in Congress or the Senate.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. We mere hobbyists do not understand public relations.

The bastiges won.

Next up? That horrid Second Amendment itself. May take another five decades, but without that 800 pound gorilla in the way, it will be a lot easier and quicker.

Terry, 230RN

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Since Bloomberg declared war on them, it’s been downhill ever since. People can blame the leadership all they want, but for years, that didn’t matter. Not until the Leftist forces were arrayed against them in a constant assault, from the negative media, to the “law” in NY, with its stupid case against them. This put the NRA on the defensive, and created bickering and lack of support among members, who apparently care more about expensive clothing and business jet usage than lobbying for the 2A.

All of this was / is driven and backed by Leftists. This collapse was purposefully executed. And we failed to “see the forest for the trees”, and played right into their hands.

“Perfect” is the enemy of “good enough.”
 
I think that the NRA members took the easy 2A protection route and paid feel-good-about-doing-my-part dues to someone else and that someone else treated other peoples’ money like other peoples’ money. Remember that the British Army did not vacate the Colonial US because the Revolutionaries were members of the NRA - they put a tad more effort into freedom than that.
 
I'll just leave this here and say, we were duped. WLP and his cronies should be jailed imho. My money now goes to the GOA and the USCCA. I'm also hearing that many of our donated firearms, over the years, have been auctioned-off and converted to cash and that there are a lot of missing and damaged/mistreated firearms in the basement vault that are likely to either be destroyed or also auctioned as part of the bankruptcy in order to pay-off courts and creditors.

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People can blame the leadership all they want, but for years, that didn’t matter. Not until the Leftist forces were arrayed against them in a constant assault, from the negative media, to the “law” in NY, with its stupid case against them.
There is, perhaps, truth in what you say. But fiscally responsible leaders would be able to weather that storm.
 
I don’t care where the money goes. The only thing that matters is their ability to lobby and hold off anti 2A legislation. How they do that is immaterial. Wooing Congress critters with airplane trips, fancy dinners in expensive suits in expensive places, name it. It doesn’t matter. All that matters are the results. If that stuff is what it takes to sway some swing vote senator our way in holding off some crap legislation, then good. I consider it money we’ll spent. Eddie Eagle and all that other stuff is nice, but the meat on the bone is the ability to lobby. And they’re the largest, most effective organization out there.

Chasing down dollars and complaining over the cost of bullets, yet losing the war for lack of ammo, is a losing proposition. DC is dirty, crooked, and really couldn’t care less about our rights. I consider it our version of “pay to play”. It may not be perfect, but it’s the world we live in.

As far as those who’ve donated to the museum, get your stuff back. Sure, a museum is nice, but not the focus.
 
There is, perhaps, truth in what you say. But fiscally responsible leaders would be able to weather that storm.
Respectfully disagree. Fiscal responsibility has nothing to do with weathering an ideological onslaught by Leftists with billions of dollars, huge and deeply seated political and legal connections, and the will to use all of that to take away our 2A rights.
 
I live ten minutes' drive from the NRA building, but I have never been inside. No reason to go. The last time I visited the NRA Museum, it was at the old headquarters at 1600 Rhode Island Avenue in the District.
Really? The NRA range in the basement is one of the best indoor ranges around, with an excellent air handling system and solid safety awareness and oversight by the range officers. When it was a 45 minute drive for me I shot there at least monthly for 15 years. Several times a year after shooting I would revisit the museum (free!) and loved the exhibits. If the range and museum are open (dang Great Hunkering world) I'd encourage you to check both out.
 
In structural terms, if the news that the roof is leaking finally reached the level of a public conversation, it's five years too late. Not to make too much light of beach condos, but all that is left is potential building collapse if there is water coursing thru the infrastructure.

Allowing massive deterioration could simply be an agenda item being accomplished on schedule.

The NRA has become the poster child of typicially neglected conservative organizations, like, the Republican Party. It's a hollow shell of what it was and does as much to assist our enemies as "protect" our rights. Republican Congressional leadership in the House and Senate is doing far worse on a daily basis - I have nothing to offer the NRA when major acts of treason are being committed by our tax paid and elected officials.

Perspective.
 
I live ten minutes' drive from the NRA building, but I have never been inside. No reason to go. The last time I visited the NRA Museum, it was at the old headquarters at 1600 Rhode Island Avenue in the District.

Maybe you have given me a reason to check it out.

If the Museum’s condition is placing its collection in jeopardy you ought to be able to reclaim your donation. There is a duty to properly care for donated tangible assets, and your donation of a gun an asset for the museum. Most museums have a policy that covers donated tangible assets. Many have a donor contract that defines the donor’s rights and the obligations of the museum. You might ask them about their policy.
 
I don't think you read the thread and are over reacting a bit, no one attacked the NRA nor called for its destruction. I would LOVE to see the NRA come back to its former glory!

I have given them a lot of $$ over the years so am suffering some sour grapes over what they have done. I think I, and others, have earned that right.

I too want to see the NRA get back to what it once was. While I agree that there needs to be some changes made at the executive level, we don't need them to sink. And I feel as a Benefactor level member, I do have a right to be upset and voice my concerns.
 
If this is true then the building reflects the overall state of the NRA as an organization. I also, as many, want to see the NRA back to what it was and as a life member I am very disappointed in the current organization. Unfortunately all current indications are that the NRA will have to sink to get rid of the current leadership. The membership has zero leverage over the leadership other than walking away. Our votes are meaningless and they have clearly turned a deaf ear to the the membership and even the board of directed as indicated by the number of BoD members that have been driven out or left in protest. I have walked away at this point and will only return if meaningful changes to the leaders and leadership structure occurs.
 
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If this is true then the building reflect the overall state of the NRA as an organization. I also want to see the NRA back to what it was and as a life member an very disappointed in the current organization. Unfortunately all current indications are that the NRA will have to sink to get rid of the current leadership. The membership has zero leverage over the leadership other than walking away. Our votes are meaningless and they have clearly turned a deaf ear to the the membership and even the board of directed as indicated by the number of BoD members that have been drive out or left in protest. I have walked away at this point and will only return if meaningful changes to the leaders and leadership structure occurs.
You pretty-much express exactly how I feel in this post.

When it comes to the NRA I am now taking a "fool me once, shame on you ... fool me twice, shame on me" approach. I've given them a lot of money over the years above and beyond my life membership dues. I've promoted them, been an NRA Certified Instructor in four disciplines for almost three decades and I gave my students discounts if they joined the NRA in any of my classes effectively matching dollar-for-dollar their membership dues or donations which, many many many times, meant giving them their class for free.

I have served as an RSO for too many NRA sponsored events to remember as well as a number of NRA fund-raising events, charities, etc., ... free of charge without even a free soft drink or hotdog being served to cadre for lunch.

Yet they spend lavish amounts of money on their own personal whims and wardrobes, planes and automobiles, cruises and cash .... they lived like kings and royalty at our expense.

I donated a rare Ithaca M37 trench gun used in WWII to the cause and a very very rare stamped and engraved Ithaca M37 that was used in the 1971 Attica Prison riot. I am so thankful now that I did not donate the remainder pf my Ithaca collection to the NRA. I intend to vigorously seek the return of the two shotguns I donated so many years ago.

I donated two period correct Ithaca M37 turkey guns to the Turkey Federation museum here in Edgefield and you should see how they cherish their donations and keep their donated shotguns pristine with far far fewer resources ... it's how things should be done.

The NRA - specifically WLP and his cronies - should be eviscerated for what they have done to a once proud and noble organization that we all relied-upon and that we all trusted to uphold our values and integrity as our righteous representatives and as the face of OUR organization, NOT theirs.

I am absolutely indignant about what has happened and what continues to-be exposed. I have zero sympathy for WLP or any of his closest cronies and only empathy for my once beloved NRA that my Grandpappy and Pappy both extolled as the United States' greatest defender of freedom.

There is no excuse, none whatsoever, for what WLP has done and we all should have realized it 15-20 years ago when he, WLP, got his first botox injection and later his plastic surgery. But we overlooked his pathological eccentricities because he was WLP.

If it does come back, the NRA, then we must remember what is happening here and now and vow to never ever allow it to happen again. And the only way for that to happen is for the average Joe membership to retake control.
 
A couple of thoughts. I wonder if this story about the building is correct or was it written by left wing activists to get members riled up and cause dissension. If so it seems to have worked. There are a lot legitimate gripes about the leadership but there have also been a lot of bad storms in the north east that caused a lot of damage so the NRA may be just one of many that suffered damage. Who knows without further info. Too early to judge. As another said, those that have donated objects to the museum no doubt have legal documents to address such situations and need to pull them out and review them. I wouldn't look to a forum for that kind of advice.
 
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