jonnyc
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Nah...that would be too easy! You'll need to be a serious collector, with deep info sources, to get this one. I wanted this round for years and finally found one about 2 years ago. I'll reveal the answer tonight.
Let's play guess the cartridge.
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lysanderxiii
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Spanish Ammunition for the CB-51 rifles in 7.9mm x 40.
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7.5mm Swiss Short (7.5mm Pat. 47/52)
need a scale for reference.
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Training round for the Spanish M65 Instalaza Bazooka
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7.5mm Swiss Short (7.5mm Pat. 47/52)
need a scale for reference.
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Training round for the Spanish M65 Instalaza Bazooka
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jonnyc
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Some very good ideas here, I'm impressed. But the round is actually a very rare 7.62x33 experimental from, of all places, the Dominican Republic. It might have been intended for the San Cristóbal rifle, also produced in 9x19 and .30 Carbine. I know of only one other example of the round in captivity.
Sorry, but it was the first round I found in my pic file.
Sorry, but it was the first round I found in my pic file.
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20x110mm Hispano?
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8x60R?
I'm going to guess 9x53 R.
jonnyc
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Oooh...very close, but no cigar.
WestKentucky
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222 was the first thought. Confirmed that when I saw the file name…
Then I'm going to have to go to the 8x52 mannlicher
jonnyc
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"222" was just the name I used to save the file on my desktop.
All three rounds are 8x53R Murata cartridges; a blank, a Japanese reformed 7.62x54R Russian case, and a very rare factory dummy.
All three rounds are 8x53R Murata cartridges; a blank, a Japanese reformed 7.62x54R Russian case, and a very rare factory dummy.
T.R.
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50-70 chambered in the Remington rolling block rifle.
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jonnyc
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jonnyc
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Ok...looks like you've had enough. It's a .44-77 Remington Reloadable.
Man I has no idea on that one.
The others were close enough to something I could guess.
I went and read an article on The Gun Mag
It was interesting. Thanks for bringing a forgotten cartridge to light.
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Nom de Forum
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Perhaps some of the less recent THR members remember this from a previous post, please don't spoil it for the newbies. I have never met anyone else who knew what it is, let alone owned one. A THR search may find its identity.
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I'm
Thinking it it a piston cartridge prototype. But I'm probably way off base. The rounded base is confusing me.
jonnyc
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I've seen a drawing or pic of its like before, but I will not go to the bookcase to research it. Off the top of my head I'm recalling some kind of front-loading single-shot rifle.
Right direction?
Right direction?
Speedo66
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I see what looks like a bullet and primer, but the shape looks more to me like a magazine follower for a lever action.
Nom de Forum
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Yup, way off base.
It was "a drawing", a very small drawing, in a famous reference book on small arms that brought it to my attention.
It definitely is a centerfire cartridge that is loaded into the front of a chamber of a repeating rifle.
Is it a gallager carbine 50 cal?
Nom de Forum
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The Gallager is a single shot that loads from the rear of the chamber. As mentioned in post #46 the cartridge loads into the front of the chamber of a repeater. You are getting closer in that you are in the right century and it is a black powder cartridge for a rifled, shoulder fired, lever action firearm. 50 is not the caliber but is close to the bore.
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