Improving the hunting performance of .22LR ammunition?

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Wondering if anyone knows any tricks to improve the performance of .22LR solid round nose bullets on small game. I have lots of the stuff and sometimes it's all I can find, but it doesn't work too well on animals, often they just run away and die in a hole somewhere after center of mass hits. I can barely kill chipmunks with this stuff.

So far I'm thinking of either filing the tips of the bullets flat, or splitting them carefully with a razor.
 
There is a kit you can buy that will put a hollow point in them, it’s basically a tool that holds the round and a drill bit. Looks like this. Do a search for 22lr hollow point tool. 019FC1A0-9B5C-49DE-B7EA-F2832B28B41F.jpeg
 
I saw a tool that looked like a case gauge where you inserted a 22lr round in it and trimmed the tip of the bullet flat with a sharp blade(razor blade?) . It was for sale, may have been on this forum . The seller was getting great performance, I believe hunting squirrels .
 
I made a gadget to hold the bullet which allows you to cut the round tip off. Gives a wadcutter effect. I was not the first to try it as I saw it elsewhere and just happened to have a mini mill and a chunk of Al looking for a use.

Easy enough to do and more consistent than trying to cut (I would be bleeding bad trying that) or drill them in my opinion.
 
UrbanHermit, I have similar experience; in a relative size perspective, a squirrel taking a center of mass .22 round is like a human taking a Howitzer round - squirrels are much tougher than they look.
I have also used hollow points on squirrels with the same effect. I always concentrate on the DRT head shot but range, brush, angle, etc do not always allow clean head access. I find that it takes lots of position patience for a good head shot otherwise, I am chasing/ waiting for mortally wounded tree animals to expire.
 
You know...they DO make hollowpoint .22 LR, right?

CCI, Aguila, Armscor, American Eagle, Remington, Winchester...

I'm sure there are more brands, but each has a variety of hollowpoints available.
 
I have one of these. Bought it back in the 80's. Pop the round in the hardened die, and the tip protrudes out the end. Run that end across a file until the die "skates" and you have a nice, flat point bullet that kills clean and doesnt explode.

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I have lots of the stuff and sometimes it's all I can find, but it doesn't work too well on animals, often they just run away and die in a hole somewhere after center of mass hits. I can barely kill chipmunks with this stuff.

Center of mass of many small animals is a gut shot. It's not necessarily the bullet that is failing at it's job.
 
I have killed heaps of Chipmunks with CB longs (40+ on my best day one spring) in an old Winchester single shot bolt action 22LR. And lots of squirrels and a fair number of ground hogs with standard velocity and even match ammo 22LR from my 10/22. If you get a 22 LR through the chest cavity it always kills them in my experience.
 
I have killed heaps of Chipmunks with CB longs (40+ on my best day one spring) in an old Winchester single shot bolt action 22LR. And lots of squirrels and a fair number of ground hogs with standard velocity and even match ammo 22LR from my 10/22. If you get a 22 LR through the chest cavity it always kills them in my experience.
Yeah, eventually. Somewhere.

Squirrels in trees are easy because they have nowhere to go but down. Everything else is challenging to retrieve unless you blow their guts out or land a headshot in my experience.

I also do nearly all my hunting with pistols. That probably makes a difference. I never figured out how to move through the Eastern woods quietly and safely with longarms and gave up trying. You can never see more than 50 yards here anyway.
 
I have one of these. Bought it back in the 80's. Pop the round in the hardened die, and the tip protrudes out the end. Run that end across a file until the die "skates" and you have a nice, flat point bullet that kills clean and doesnt explode.

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That's more what I had in mind. Flat metplats make a huge difference. I actually prefer these to hollow points, more versatile due to better penetration on larger game like coyotes.
 
Yeah, eventually. Somewhere.

Squirrels in trees are easy because they have nowhere to go but down. Everything else is challenging to retrieve unless you blow their guts out or land a headshot in my experience.

I also do nearly all my hunting with pistols. That probably makes a difference. I never figured out how to move through the Eastern woods quietly and safely with longarms and gave up trying. You can never see more than 50 yards here anyway.

No dead right there. I have lost very few squirrels while using 22LR and I don't think I have ever lost a ground hog with 22LR. If you are using a pistol I would still bet its accuracy rather than terminal performance that is letting you down. I grew up in Ohio and now do most of my hunting in middle Tennessee I have never found moving through the woods quietly all that hard. Squirrel hunting was how I practices that and it comes in very handy still hunting deer.
 
UrbanHermit, I have similar experience; in a relative size perspective, a squirrel taking a center of mass .22 round is like a human taking a Howitzer round - squirrels are much tougher than they look.
I have also used hollow points on squirrels with the same effect. I always concentrate on the DRT head shot but range, brush, angle, etc do not always allow clean head access. I find that it takes lots of position patience for a good head shot otherwise, I am chasing/ waiting for mortally wounded tree animals to expire.
I hate squirrels.
 
No dead right there. I have lost very few squirrels while using 22LR and I don't think I have ever lost a ground hog with 22LR. If you are using a pistol I would still bet its accuracy rather than terminal performance that is letting you down. I grew up in Ohio and now do most of my hunting in middle Tennessee I have never found moving through the woods quietly all that hard. Squirrel hunting was how I practices that and it comes in very handy still hunting deer.
I've lost very few squirrels too, but they've all been with roundnosed bullets.

I've tried for years to incorporate rifles and shotguns into my routines, but have continually found them to cause more problems than they solve. I prefer to hunt by silently navigating through animal habitats against the wind rather than waiting in some stand hoping game magically walks out in front of me. I have significantly more success this way. Because shot opportunities in the forest are generally less than 20 yards for small game and 60 yards for larger game, and because moving silently through the forest is very physically challenging like ballet and requires the constant use of all four limbs, handguns just make more sense to me, and I have far more success using them. Most people view handgun hunting as a special challenge, but in my experience it is far more challenging to shoot animals with rifles because carrying something that large and heavy changes my body mechanics in a way that makes it extremely difficult to move gracefully enough to get within sight of animals without spooking them. I also don't know how people can shoot animals while wearing any kind of footwear sold in sporting goods stores, I would sooner just go barefoot.
 
I have one of these. Bought it back in the 80's. Pop the round in the hardened die, and the tip protrudes out the end. Run that end across a file until the die "skates" and you have a nice, flat point bullet that kills clean and doesnt explode.

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Have you ever weighed the bullet (just the bullet) before and after filing it down<. Yes, pull two bullets. Does it remove 4.0 grains of lead?

Does it turn a 40 grain into a 36 gr . and then you have not only a flat point but a HV round.:)
 
I've lost very few squirrels too, but they've all been with roundnosed bullets.

I've tried for years to incorporate rifles and shotguns into my routines, but have continually found them to cause more problems than they solve. I prefer to hunt by silently navigating through animal habitats against the wind rather than waiting in some stand hoping game magically walks out in front of me. I have significantly more success this way. Because shot opportunities in the forest are generally less than 20 yards for small game and 60 yards for larger game, and because moving silently through the forest is very physically challenging like ballet and requires the constant use of all four limbs, handguns just make more sense to me, and I have far more success using them. Most people view handgun hunting as a special challenge, but in my experience it is far more challenging to shoot animals with rifles because carrying something that large and heavy changes my body mechanics in a way that makes it extremely difficult to move gracefully enough to get within sight of animals without spooking them. I also don't know how people can shoot animals while wearing any kind of footwear sold in sporting goods stores, I would sooner just go barefoot.

You do you then. I have never had much issue moving quite in the wood carrying a rifle or shotgun and wearing modern boots. Practice makes perfect...
 
What do you wear ?
Water socks. Sometimes called water shoes. They're literally just neoprene socks with an extremely thin layer of rubber on the bottom. You can keep them in your pocket when not in use. My favorite pair only cost $25. Before I discovered these I used Bean boots, which suck but are better than most other boots marketed for hunting, and also skateboard shoes with the souls rasped thin, which were marginally better. The water socks are ideal and are warm even when damp in cold weather. I got to within 20 yards of a black bear last week wearing them, though I would never shoot a bear unless I had to.
 
Water socks. Sometimes called water shoes. They're literally just neoprene socks with an extremely thin layer of rubber on the bottom. You can keep them in your pocket when not in use. My favorite pair only cost $25. Before I discovered these I used Bean boots, which suck but are better than most other boots marketed for hunting, and also skateboard shoes with the souls rasped thin, which were marginally better. The water socks are ideal and are warm even when damp in cold weather. I got to within 20 yards of a black bear last week wearing them, though I would never shoot a bear unless I had to.

A shame the Native Americans didn't have water shoes(socks) Just Moccasins!:rofl:
 
20211001_105109.jpg I made a simple flat point tool like the one shown with a hardened bushing. You can find them at the hardware store in the little specialty drawers. I found one the cartridge slips into and cut the length until I got it right. I wrapped it with black cloth tape for a better grip. Cost about a buck. Small but works great. Flat point sure "whaaaps" water bottles more than the rounded point. Just make sure to check feeding in your gun before to take too much off the nose,
 
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What do you wear ?
https://www.amazon.com/RANDY-SUN-Ou...629157210&sprefix=water+so&sr=8-95&th=1&psc=1
A shame the Native Americans didn't have water shoes(socks) Just Moccasins!:rofl:
It's the same basic principle as moccasins: shoes that allow you to play a "game" with every step whereby you are keeping your eyes on the horizon and feeling around with your toes and the countours of your foot in order to find spots where it will be safe to transition your weight to without breaking sticks. Doing this with any kind of hunting boots is like trying to paint a perfect replica of Van Gogh paintings while wearing oven mitts.

I also need to wear suspenders to move right, and I can't carry pistols in the waistband. Stalking completely changes how your body works.
 
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