Retro-revolvers for EDC

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The below was CCW Safe's email for today, I figured my fellow revolver fans would enjoy it:

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By Steve Moses |October 18th, 2021
Why do some people like re-built “muscle cars” like the 1970’s vintage Mustang GT, Pontiac GTO, Chevrolet Camaro, and Dodge Challenger? There is just something appealing about turning a dream into reality by having a true craftsman rebuild a fifty-year old mechanical device and turn it into a functional piece of equipment that does not contain computers, CNC equipment, and plastic parts. I feel that way about older Smith & Wesson K-frame .38 Special revolvers. There is something that just sets them apart from modern semi-automatic service handguns like the Beretta 92, Glock 19, Smith & Wesson M&P 2.0, and Sig 320.

It likely goes without saying that if a concealed carrier knows that the odds are good that he or she is going to need a concealed handgun on a given day to defend themselves against one or more armed attackers then one of the aforementioned semi-automatic service handguns is the better choice. These handguns hold more ammunition, are easier to shoot well for most people, can be reloaded faster, and most malfunctions can be quickly dealt with. Which begs the question of why a sensible concealed carrier would choose to carry any other handgun. For me, the reasons are simple.

Owning a vintage medium-frame revolver is like owning art. I view a beautifully refurbished vintage medium-frame revolver the same way some of my friends view a rebuilt 1970’s muscle car. It is simply a beautiful piece of work that stirs great memories. Rangemaster firearms instructor Tom Givens once said that sentimentality may be one of the main reasons that many experienced concealed carriers choose to carry a revolver.

I spend a lot of time away from people, and when I am around other persons it is mostly in low-density, low-crime areas. Of course, the odds are always greater than zero that I might need a handgun to protect myself and my family, and that is why I bring one. On many of those occasions I grab a revolver. Even a medium-frame revolver tends to conceal better under a lightweight tee shirt than a medium-size frame semi-auto pistol for me, and likely is up to the job if I maintain good general and situational awareness, make good choices about where and when I go to places, and I use any opportunity to not only duck trouble but disengage immediately if I observe any clue that trouble might be ahead.


What caused me to pen this particular article? I recently took possession of a Smith & Wesson Model 10 .38 Special revolver that is maybe fifty years old believed to have been originally issued to a Jordanian Police Officer. This particular handgun had a skinny 4-inch barrel, light pitting, and no remaining bluing. After multiple discussions with good friend and revolver muse Hany Mahmoud, I contacted Dave Fink of Fink’s Custom Gunsmithing in Paulden, Arizona and put into motion my plan to put together what I thought might be an ideal concealed carry revolver. I shipped him my ugly duckling revolver along with a spare Smith & Wesson Model 64 stainless steel heavy barrel (more on this later) with hopes of being returned a beautiful swan.

Less than ninety days later I found myself holding a custom revolver that any concealed carrier would be proud to own. I had Dave remove the original barrel and replace it with the heavy Model 64 barrel after cutting it to three inches, crowning the muzzle, machine-slabbing the sides, cutting a Novak front sight channel, and installing a white bead front sight. Revolvers with three-inch barrels are typically easier to conceal than those with four-inch barrels, and it is not possible to install a dovetail cut in the original skinny barrel. I specified a pinned front sight with a plain white bead for use in dim light as I prefer it to front sights with gold beads, fiber optic rods, and tritium vials. He also opened up the rear sight channel in order to improve the sight picture and converted the square butt to round butt configuration, smoothed out the action, polished the internals, and de-horned and bobbed the hammer. Dave applied a beautiful tungsten cerakote finish to the frame and a graphite black cerakote finish to the cylinder, but not before some judicious sandblasting, polishing, and draw filing in order to remove some small pitting. He also case hardened the hammer and trigger. He finished by adding VZ Tactical Diamond grips and hand zeroing it at fifteen yards with .38 Special 110-grain ammunition. The Hornaday 110-grain FTX round is my preferred carry load for my Smith & Wesson 442 Airweight snub nose revolver, and I saw no good reason to choose a different round.

My Model 10 is a compact revolver that carries well and shoots better. It is the best-balanced revolver that I have owned, which I am speculating is due to the combination of three-inch heavy barrel, round butt, and low-profile but highly visible fixed sights. Recoil is mild, and the action is smooth. Measured double-action trigger pull is 9.5 pounds and single-action trigger pull is 2.75 pounds.


I acquired a JM Custom Kydex Appendix holster for conceal carry purposes. Due to the round butt configuration this revolver conceals even better than my Glock 19 when worn in a quality appendix holster under a lightweight tee shirt.

Less than a week after I received the revolver I attended the three-day Rangemaster Master Firearms Instructor course at the MeadHall Range in McLoud, Oklahoma. Required equipment included a medium-frame revolver for use as a concealed carry firearm. Many of the students open-carried full-sized modern Ruger and Smith and Wesson revolvers equipped with high-visibility adjustable sights since a scored test was required, but I was more interested in getting in some quality reps under one of the best trainers in the United States and worked from concealment for the entire block of instruction. We finished with the Rangemaster Defensive Revolver Course Qualification course of fire shooting timed stages from three to fifteen yards, and I was pleased to find that my score was 243 out of a possible 250, which I thought was respectable given the fact that I had only ran fifty rounds through it prior to the class in order to confirm function and reliability.

I realize that that this article will not be of interest to many concealed carriers. That is the reason that I write articles on a variety of topics like legal considerations, home defense, low-light shooting, threat management, emergency treatment of gunshot wounds, road rage, Use of Force, working around physical limitations, and post-incident contact with responding law enforcement. This particular article was directed at readers who may at some point in their lives decide that they would like to own a revolver that was actually built and hand-fitted by skilled craftsmen and then turned it into a firearm that is suitable for concealed carry in many situations.
 
While wheel guns have never been for me I do always enjoy seeing nice ones like this. As for use? I have LONG held the "any gun is better than the better guns you do not have when you need them" thing. Wife long ago was worried about a large park she walked the dog at. Some scum had taken to robbing people there. Gang would show up and use intimidation to make victims give up even though they had no guns. Just things like clubs. She was asking about maybe "needing" larger capacity. I said if you want, great but, if not you will be fine. If there is a dozen or so and you only have 6 shots pick out one who looks to be a "leader" and pump a couple rounds in him first. Watch how the rest of the scum suddenly run like roaches when the lights come on. Carrying more capacity is "nice" but, even when there are multiple scum to deal with it does not mean you always have to have enough ammo to shoot them all. Since most scum are cowards who are only brave until one of them gets shot.
 
I like revolvers, and I love what the author did with his neglected model 10. He mentions a few times that having a vintage revolver is much like having a vintage muscle car today. (Although, while I would consider a 1970's GTO a vintage automobile, not sure I would call a 1970's firearm "vintage") I also love the idea of owning a restored 1960's or '70 American muscle car, or keeping with the theme of the article, a resto-mod. That being said, would I want a 1968 Mustang resto-mod as my daily driver? Maybe....maybe not. In both cases (car or gun) it takes more money to take an older item and bring it up to modern trim than purchasing a new one. No doubt, there is a certain "old school cool" that goes along with the old car, or carrying the older gun, and done right, probably aren't losing a lot of practicality along the way, but done wrong.....my have a problem. Hey, I wouldn't mind carrying a S&W model 10 with custom barrel, fresh cerakote, reworked internals and upgraded sights while riding around in a 1968 Camero SS/RS with a LS engine swap, upgraded suspension, 4 wheel disk brakes, 5 speed transmission, leather interior and air conditioning. But the situation changes if we're talking about a cerakoted Ruger Security Six with some night sights added and a 1973 Mustang with a rebuilt 351, new vinyl interior and a fresh paint job. Point being, if you were to use either (car or gun) on a daily basis, you really have to go the whole hog on either
 
I agree that a good revolver, carried with the mindset the author espouses, can be a perfectly-capable defense implement. However, while I have some of the same sense of nostalgia toward them as I do my muscle cars of days gone by, I believe it's rare that one selects a classic muscle car with which to protect one's life.
 
a landlord who owns one of the farms that we operate, has a model A Ford sedan in original condition as his daily driver. He says "when I'm gone, my kids are just going to sell it, so I'm going to enjoy it! " . Its hard to miss, we see him in it everywhere....!

Oddly enough, he carries a tricked out Glock 42 edc.


The advantages of a modern auto pistol are undeniable, but I still like shooting and carrying a revolver. Its straightforward simplicity is an advantage.
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This isn't a brag target, just a practice target with my handloads data written down for the filing cabinet.
 
I carried a Glock for 19 years of my career as a duty gun, and a P320 for the last year before I retired. My ankle gun for several years was a S&W model 60 with a bobbed hammer. I no longer own a semiautomatic pistol and have converted solely to revolvers. Why?????

My purpose has changed. I'm not moving towards danger intentionally anymore. My role in life doesn't include making contact with the unknown and having the tools to hold a position or advancing on threats. Therefore, my tools changed too.

I love the nostalgia of wheel guns. They carry and feel better to me. I never owned a muscle car, but I have restored a 1967 F100 which I used as a daily driver. I think the analogy of the old vehicles and revolvers is spot on...for me. Yes, I carry revolver. I trained with one as a backup weapon earlier in my career and know their capacity limitations. In my career, I witnessed and helped investigate numerous police and civilian shootings. I can't remember one incident, outside of SWAT using a MP-5, where the shooter used more than 3 rounds...that's 1/2 of my K frames capacity.
 
I certainly like the fact that I've never experienced an unlocked magazine when I've unholstered a revolver. Not to mention the DA trigger/hammer, no manual safety, barrel length is measured without the chamber, best gun type for a laser grip, etc.

I also like the fact my revolvers don't have computers in them.

Yet, I only have one carry revolver. All my other carry guns are autoloaders. :oops:

Regarding muscle cars, I drove them unrestored and typically with an average age of around 10+ years old. Which means they were clapped out machines that needed lots of maintenance. Using them as a daily driver as a young adult meant not having any spending money. Gas, oil, tires, repairs.

In 2021, getting a 50+ year old revolver in great shape sure is cheaper than getting the same age muscle car in running condition. :cool:
 
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The author conflates the likelihood of occurrence of a risk with what would be required to mitigate it once it has occurred.
 
The author conflates the likelihood of occurrence of a risk with what would be required to mitigate it once it has occurred.

I think the author simply wants to show off his custom gun and threw in some commentary to justify why he might carry it. Wouldn't be the first time a gun writer has done that.

But that sounds negative on my part. My positive side looks at the article as inspiration for a potential future project of my own.
 
I can see where the author is coming from for this restored revolver for a handful of examples.
For those of us who reside in low-crime areas, our dogs might look at us at 11:30 pm wanting a nice walk.

Tossing on a wool overcoat with a hammerless revolver in a pocket holster seems entirely pragmatic.
Could something crazy happen? Of course. Yet there is also value to a smooth-drawing slick .357.

That very typical suburban/exurban experience could let you stroll with a full firing grip with none the wiser.
That also negates the need for exhaustive thinking about cover garments. Drop into pocket and walk the dog!

:)
 
a landlord who owns one of the farms that we operate, has a model A Ford sedan in original condition as his daily driver. He says "when I'm gone, my kids are just going to sell it, so I'm going to enjoy it! " . Its hard to miss, we see him in it everywhere....!

Oddly enough, he carries a tricked out Glock 42 edc.


The advantages of a modern auto pistol are undeniable, but I still like shooting and carrying a revolver. Its straightforward simplicity is an advantage.
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This isn't a brag target, just a practice target with my handloads data written down for the filing cabinet.
That the way to live… use it because my kids will sell it when I die.
 
I think the author simply wants to show off his custom gun and threw in some commentary to justify why he might carry it. Wouldn't be the first time a gun writer has done that.

But that sounds negative on my part. My positive side looks at the article as inspiration for a potential future project of my own.
Yes he did.
No you didn't (sound negative).

As I read the article I thought about my favorite pair of boxer shorts.

No, you ain't seeing pictures!!
 
I actually kind of disliked the article - without meaning to cause offense to @old lady new shooter.

I don't carry a revolver out of nostalgia. I carry one because I am far more practiced with them than any semi-auto. I also believe that, for my situation, the possibility of needing more than six rounds, or a fast reload, is so remote as to be irrelevant.

Furthermore, if I ever find that "the odds are good" that I'm going to be involved in a gunfight, I'm going to stay home.

As for "owning art", that might be a good excuse to buy a revolver, but it's a nonsensical reason to carry one. And beyond that, you don't buy a piece of art and then sandblast it and cover it in plastic.

I'm glad that he is taking high-level training with it - and that such training is still available ( :neener: @Kleanbore ) - but overall the article makes me want to yell at people about getting off my lawn.
 
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For me, an old geezer, the appeal is that the semi autos listed (and most others except the 1911) have no soul. Revolvers and particularly custom ones do have soul. If you don't get that...you aren't old enough. (smile)

Dave

The guns that have "soul" for me are the guns I shoot well and use often, some of them are old some of them are new.
 
My sense is that 99.44% of the people on THR are probably very tuned to situational awareness.
I am grateful to live in a wonderful small town with very little crime isolated to a corner miles away.

The likelihood of a violent and committed thug to visit at the very moment my pup wishes to smell other dogs on trees for 20 minutes is statistically slim. I would even state the laidback approach of a hand-on-revolver in pocket while strolling around the neighborhood might even put one at a significant advantage.

Now, if it is an all-day hike with opportunity to encounter two-legged and four-legged threats for a much LONGER duration and significantly FURTHER from help, that starts to tilt my decision towards semi-auto. Paradoxically, the further, and further, and more remote one walks in the woods, the odds start to tilt far more towards four-legged threats compared to two-legged threats again! It is indeed a balancing act.
 
Looks to me like the OP spent a lot of money and justification to get a gussied up Smith Model 13. I had a Mod 13---it had 3.5 lb SA and 10 lb DA trigger pulls and shot fine right from the factory with 158gr +P loads.
 
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