Ruger LCP vs EC9S?

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I have an LCP & pocket carry it when I can't carry the Hellcat.

I saw the size difference online, but anyone here pocket carry the EC9S? Looks like it might be too big IMO

I wouldn't mind not stocking .380 anymore
 
I have an LC9s. In my opinion it is not a pocket gun, but it is very concealable IWB. I also have an LCP II. It is a pocket gun, but I am not enthusiastic about 380 ACP. the gun is up for sale and spoken for. I won’t miss it.
 
I pocket carry my LC9s nearly 100%. I have, perhaps, one pair of jeans and one pair of shorts where it doesn't fit (I rarely every wear cargo shorts but wear Nautica shorts almost year-round).
Not sure what clothes others are buying but I'm extremely happy with my LC9s as a pocket carry gun.
 
I handled a Hellcat at my lgs a few nights ago. I thought it was very impressive, and not much bigger than my lcp.
They also had a sig 365. It was a bit smaller than the Hellcat. The sig 365 grip was too small for me, but maybe you would like it.

You probably already know about the website that helps you compare pistol sizes.
 
I have the precursor, the LC9s pro. It's a nice pistol, but it's not what I would call a pocket pistol. For me it's a "small belt pistol", like maybe for IWB carry or something like that.

The LCP is an actual pocket pistol. I usually carry mine in the breast pocket of a coat when reaching something like an LC9 on my belt area would be more difficult.

The LC9s pro is a very good shooter, BTW. I think I like it better than my Glock 43. If the newest version is as nice to shoot, it would be a nice pistol to have. It's just not really a pocket pistol, IMHO.

Ruger LC9s Pro

Ruger LC9s Pro

 
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I've owned all 3 of the guns in question. The lcp obviously disappears in any pocket and won't weigh you down. It's also the least "capable " of the 3 (ec9, hellcat). Hardest to shoot, most jams, least powerful.

On paper not much difference between the hellcat and ec9, but I really miss my ec9 (well, and hellcat) lol.

I think the weight of 7 Vs 12 + 9mms can't be discounted. The ec9 has a different less boxy shape and carried very flat and organically front pocket.

With the 9 round back up mag I never felt under gunned.

Hellcat was also pocketable but seemed more noticeable and swung more when running etc.

In the class of lcp I'd prefer a sig p238. It's a good 380 "fightin " gun.

I'd like to get another hellcat or ec9. I was offered trade too good to pass up.

The hellcat is the most capable, good sights, fast return to target, most rounds, it also disassembled more easily (hate the Ruger ec9 lcp etc take down method. Cmon Ruger).

Most likely unless another ec9 drops in my lap for 150, I plan to get another hellcat and adapt.
 
Tallball said:
I have the precursor, the LC9s pro. It's a nice pistol, but it's not what I would call a pocket pistol.
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I'm curious to know why you feel that way. Your dress style? Feels too heavy in your pocket?
I find it so easy to pocket carry I can't help but ask.
 
I have a LCPII, a EC9s, and a Kimber Micro380. Don't know what jeans people wear but my Wranglers don't pocket carry the EC. The LCP and Micro are fine.
 
I have had both the EC9S and the LCP. I find the LCP the best pocket carry of the two.The main characteristic that makes or breaks pocket carry for me is weight. And there is a significant weight difference between the two.

I will echo another’s opinion and say the LC9S Pro was the best version and carried better and shot better than a G43. Don’t think it’s better made, but can’t have everything. If the EC9S didn’t have a safety, I would have another one.

Lefty
 
Maybe it depends on your definition of "pocket carry".

The largest handgun I pocket carry in jeans is a j-frame with boot grips in my rear pocket, if I know I won't be sitting down (probably walking the dog).

If I'm pocket carrying, several things are true: The handgun is all the way in the pocket and doesn't need any kind of cover garment. The handgun is in a pocket holster. The handgun can be drawn immediately, without any garment being in the way. The handgun and holster can't get twisted into the wrong position inside the pocket. I can get enough of my hand into the pocket to get the handgun out easily. I can draw while sitting down (other than walking the dog).

These things preclude using the front pocket. The front pockets of my jeans are not large enough for me to draw sitting down. I can easily carry and LCP or similar in a front pocket, but I don't do so for that reason.

Mostly I carry in the chest pocket of overalls or the cargo pocket of shorts. Those pockets happen to fit two of my light revolvers very well, but none of my semiautos are the right size and weight.

I could pocket carry something larger if it kinda came out of the top of my pocket a bit and I let my shirt hang over it, but that's not how I prefer to carry.
 
defjon said:
I've owned all 3 of the guns in question. The lcp obviously disappears in any pocket and won't weigh you down. It's also the least "capable " of the 3 (ec9, hellcat). Hardest to shoot, most jams, least powerful.

On paper not much difference between the hellcat and ec9, but I really miss my ec9 (well, and hellcat) lol.

I think the weight of 7 Vs 12 + 9mms can't be discounted. The ec9 has a different less boxy shape and carried very flat and organically front pocket.

With the 9 round back up mag I never felt under gunned.

Hellcat was also pocketable but seemed more noticeable and swung more when running etc.

In the class of lcp I'd prefer a sig p238. It's a good 380 "fightin " gun.

I'd like to get another hellcat or ec9. I was offered trade too good to pass up.

The hellcat is the most capable, good sights, fast return to target, most rounds, it also disassembled more easily (hate the Ruger ec9 lcp etc take down method. Cmon Ruger).

Most likely unless another ec9 drops in my lap for 150, I plan to get another hellcat and adapt.
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Love my Hellcat. I carry it IWB. I stuck it in my pockets just to see & definitely too heavy & bulky IMO. Maybe that was mostly b/c of the RMR, though. I wouldn't have an RMR on a pocket pistol. Weight advantage goes to the LCP by far.

Guess I am stuck with staying with the 380 until a 9mm pocket pistol comes out that is closer to LCP size & weight
 
I have an EC9s and posted in the semi-auto section I thought it was a little on the big side for pocket carrey and was told I must be stupid because it is a pocket pistol. But for me its not. Its closer with the finger extension traded out for the flat floor plate but my 442 is much better in a pocket. To me the EC is either IWB or carried on a belt.

I just ordered a bulldog belt slide for my J-Frame and one for the EC9 and the small size was too small for the EC9. It works fine for the slimmer Walther PP or my Beretta 25 auto but the EC will barley go in. I need the medium size for the EC. In my Wrangler jeans the EC is a tight, awkward fit. I don't like it for pocket carry at all.
 
I carry an original LCP front pocket every day and it truly does disappear. Cannot do that with any compact 9 that I know of. Even the LCP II and Plus are not as easy to carry. Yup, 380 is not ideal, but it's decent for the goodness of always having a firearm. Mine has been totally reliable thus far, although I do not shoot it as often as I should. I do recomment polishing the feed ramp on the LCP. I also do not use any lube on it to not crud it up with lint.
 
I regularly carry an original LCP in my front pocket.

I've tried various micro 9's, and while dimensionally they aren't much larger they aren't good pocket carry options, for my pockets at least. While they slide easily enough into a pocket, once I wrap my hands around them (which aren't that large) and try to draw it all turns into a chinese finger trap where the harder and faster I try to remove the gun the more stuck it gets. I don't have this problem with the .380. Now pocket carry is never ideal for draw speed or easy access, but shouldn't you carry the gun you can remove and fire the fastest vs the one that slows you down even more?

Point is, don't just look at how well a gun fits inside a pocket. If you have to remove it you aren't necessarily going to be calm and have the finest of motor skills so take that into consideration.
 
Tallball said:
The handgun is all the way in the pocket and doesn't need any kind of cover garment. The handgun is in a pocket holster. The handgun can be drawn immediately, without any garment being in the way. The handgun and holster can't get twisted into the wrong position inside the pocket. I can get enough of my hand into the pocket to get the handgun out easily. I can draw while sitting down (other than walking the dog).
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Ok, that makes perfect sense. I checked all the boxes except drawing while sitting. The only time I usually sit away from home is in the truck and for that the gun goes in holster in the car door map pocket.
Completely agree the LC9/EC9 doesn't carry well in rear pants pocket. It's fine in cargo pocket.
It's a personal balance. I want to carry 9mm and the LC9c was my choice for several reasons.
 
TarDevil said:
Ok, that makes perfect sense. I checked all the boxes except drawing while sitting. The only time I usually sit away from home is in the truck and for that the gun goes in holster in the car door map pocket.
Completely agree the LC9/EC9 doesn't carry well in rear pants pocket. It's fine in cargo pocket.
It's a personal balance. I want to carry 9mm and the LC9c was my choice for several reasons.
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That sounds extremely sensible. Cargo pockets are very nice for carry, IMHO. I even converted a friend. He used to carry IWB, until I asked him why he was walking around with his cargo pocket empty and his gun poking into his man hips. ;)
 
Tallball said:
That sounds extremely sensible. Cargo pockets are very nice for carry, IMHO. I even converted a friend. He used to carry IWB, until I asked him why he was walking around with his cargo pocket empty and his gun poking into his man hips. ;)
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Some of us put our phone in said cargo pocket. ;)
 
bassjam said:
...Point is, don't just look at how well a gun fits inside a pocket. If you have to remove it you aren't necessarily going to be calm and have the finest of motor skills so take that into consideration...
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I think this is great advice.
 
bassjam said:
Now pocket carry is never ideal for draw speed or easy access
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Must depend on what you wear, but (while standing) there's no holster or method of carry that allows me to present my gun as fast as pocket carry. But then, I don't wear trend setting, form fitting pants.
As I've said in similar threads, I stroll with my wife, a grip on my LC9 (which you can't do carrying IWB or OWB) and faster than I can even reach for a holstered gun, I'm pointing that previously pocketed pistol. No struggle, no fumbling. Just a blinding swift draw.
 
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