Your opinion on felons owning guns?

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KarateHottie93

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First off, I'm not a felon lol. I like having the ability to pick my guns out brand new from the case...so this isn't about me.

Just curious on how you all feel about it. My childhood involved a lot of felons around and they all owned firearms. None of these were violent criminals or anything. It was mainly just middle aged guys that had went to prison for selling pills when they were younger, and considered the charge worth having the ability to defend themselves and their families. Even today, I'm pretty much disassociated with whatever few of these people may still be alive, but I still run across felons with guns. I live in the hood cause rents cheaper and I don't have any kids to take care of yet. All the felons out here that aren't strung out on dope have guns...but that's to be expected.

Mainly just talking about your average working class man with a family that got locked up for something like drug charges in his younger days.

Do you guys know people like that with guns? Almost every felon I know owns at least one firearm. The percentage of non felons I know with firearms is way smaller, and this is in a gun friendly state like TN.
 
TarDevil said:
Hmmm, wonder if I would post this, if I were you?
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Like I said lol, I'm disassociated with all these people. My life has changed drastically in the last few years. Moved away and got a good job. Living in the hood, people out here with guns that shouldn't have them is just common knowledge.

Just a general question if anyone else has seen the same thing out there.
 
I sure as hell wouldn't let any of those felons know I had any guns.

Besides that, this is more evidence that laws only affect the law abiding.
 
bdickens said:
I sure as hell wouldn't let any of those felons know I had any firearms.

Besides that, this is more evidence that laws only affect the law abiding.
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Well yeah...people that don't follow laws aren't gonna follow gun laws. That's kinda the point to this.
 
There are white collar felons (Martha Stuart) and then there are violent felons. Drug dealers fall into the latter category, in my book.
 
I believe that if society things you are harmless to put back into society then you should be allowed to own firearms. You've served your sentence.

At the very least I would allow non violent offenders and those who didn't use any weapons in the crime to own firearms.
 
I don't care what someone did, do the time for the crime and rejoin society as a WHOLE person. This means every right restored.

Your not a lesser person because you sold dope,etc

Most of our felons in the USA are just that petty drug possession. The system wants it that way that way they can disarm our society as a whole. Young men and women both white and of color are catching felony charges over trivial things and it's crap.

The system has created this fear of felons to keep them down as they become a majority. Some old fudd on this site is going to raise Cain over this comment but it's the truth if you would just open your eyes and quit backing the blue 24/7. There is a method of disarming and control being unleashed in our legal system and it is only intensifying.
 
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couple of things at work here IMO.

1. criminals who want guns, get them.
This is pretty well accepted, I think.

2. IMO, If you've paid your debt to society, it should be paid and you go back to being a regular citizen.
Removing this option can drive people back to criminal behavior as a second class citizen.

3. If you can't be trusted to be in society, then you don't go back into society...

4. Gun control doesn't work.

With all of that in consideration...

*shrug*
 
John_R said:
There are white collar felons (Martha Stuart) and then there are violent felons. Drug dealers fall into the latter category, in my book.
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I don't know. Some people grow up without direction and they make mistakes early in life. I didn't have a family and I broke a few laws when I was 18. I got it together though, decided I was better than that, started over, and made something of myself. People that a make a living off of pushing drugs...they're worthless. I can't put a kid with nothing trying to survive early in life in that same category. It's a lot more forgivable in my book than someone like Martha Stuart that already had everything and still wanted to get one over.
 
Tinman357 said:
I feel that non violent felons who have served the sentence should have all their rights restored. Keep in mind, its easier than you think to get that label hung around your neck.

Scary easy.
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Your still excluding people, look at the statistics regarding intoxication in murders both the victim and the perpetrator..... 50-58 percent depending on the study of all cases one or both parties are under the influence of a foreign substance.

No one is born violent, it's learned behavior and unfortunately intoxication is just the catalyst needed to learn this behavior.

We have a drug and alcohol epidemic in the USA that is eating our children and everyone is distracted from that by the system's talking news outlet heads keeping the USA population divided.

We have to get Jesus back in our everyday personal lives, we have to set an example for children to live by, we have to purge intoxication from our mist. Only then can we have non violent people.
 
We are all human and make mistakes, especially when we were younger and stupid.

Should we pay for our mistakes we made in our younger days until we die? Should we lose our driving license forever because we had one accident during our younger, inexperienced days?

I think if you paid your debt to society and did your time, you should be allowed to defend your life and lives of your loved ones.

However, if you were violent and still deemed violent by society, well ... there's that.
 
My opinion on the subject has wandered all over the board. I very nearly fell in to the "if they're free, give them their rights" category until I met a man who was trying to get his rights back and having all sorts of problems. I was sympathetic, I asked what he had tried, who he had talked to. How could I help him complete this legal process. And then he said "I don't understand why I can't go hunt, and own a gun. All I did was shoot at a cop." And I was reminded why some people shouldn't have guns.

That all being said, if we can't trust you to not have a gun then we can't trust you to not illegally acquire a gun, which probably needs you need to be hung or rot in prison awhile longer.
 
With only a few exception once a person has served the punishment for the crime they committed they should have all their rights restored. If they are not restored they are a second class citizen and that means they are serving a life sentence despite what was handed down at the sentencing hearing.
 
KY DAN said:
Most of our felons in the USA are just that petty drug possession. The system wants it that way that way they can disarm our society as a whole. Young men and women both white and of color are catching felony charges over trivial things and it's crap.
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That's demonstrably untrue. There are about 2.25M people in the US who are in one sort of jail or another. 910,000 of them were convicted of violent crimes. About 350,000 were convicted of property crimes. Only about 410,000 people are in jail for drug crimes, and of those, the large majority are in jail on trafficking convictions, not for simple possession.
 
TarDevil said:
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I'm not sure I'll agree with this.
I know kids from very good families that were dangerous. Siblings turned out fine. All raised the same way, conservative Christian homes.
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Ok I will throw you a bone on that statement, as I made a blanket statement regarding everyone being of the same mental capacities. There are people born from the beginning with mental health issues that allow this to occur.
 
Madcap_Magician said:
That's demonstrably untrue. There are about 2.25M people in the US who are in one sort of jail or another. 910,000 of them were convicted of violent crimes. About 350,000 were convicted of property crimes. Only about 410,000 people are in jail for drug crimes, and of those, the large majority are in jail on trafficking convictions, not for simple possession.
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If it were not for drug and alcohol addiction the above mentioned crimes would be trivial.

Have you sat down in a jail lately and talked to a inmate lately? I have and not one of the thousands of men and women I have spoken with in various programs has not been under the influence in regards to what got them there.

Yeah white collar, non drug exists but it's so rare in the general population.
 
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