Any good sources for an O/U rifle shotgun combo?

The Valmet 412 has had a couple of successors: the Tikka 512 (after Beretta bought Sako/Tikka) and the Finnclassic 512 (Marocchi, under Tikka contract). It's not clear to me whether it's currently being manufactured, but you could try contacting these guys:

http://doublegunhq.com/marocchigallery/finn.htm

Valmet 412/Tikka 512s show up pretty regularly on Gunbroker, and the combination gun configuration seems the most common there. Tikka used to offer its own line of combination guns. Savage also once marketed earlier versions of the Valmet system as a combination gun (the 2400 and 330, I think), and those command lower prices because they don't feature barrel interchangeability with the later models. Or at least I don't think they do -- this family lineage is pretty confusing and I can't read Finnish.

One interesting place to watch for used combination guns of different makes is Simpsons Ltd. Use the search term 'combination' -- they usually have quite a few for sale at any one time:

https://simpsonltd.com/search-results-page?q=combination

Try GunsInternational.com. People I talked to, before I bought my drilling, always mentioned that the 12 gauge frames are somewhat clunky in field use. I ended up getting a 16 gauge SxS with the 7x57R below.

Dave DeLaurant said:

Savage also once marketed earlier versions of the Valmet system as a combination gun (the 2400 and 330, I think), and those command lower prices because they don't feature barrel interchangeability with the later models. Or at least I don't think they do -- this family lineage is pretty confusing and I can't read Finnish.

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Yes Valmet made the 2400's and 330's, sold as Savages...

BUT, the Valmet 412's are NOT the same firearm, the 412's are much stronger built and the bbl. sets are completely different, the parts do NOT interchange at all.

If you have any questions about the 412 system I will try to answer them for you.

DM

DM~ said:

If you have any questions about the 412 system I will try to answer them for you.
DM

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Do/did you own one of these? I've always wondered how positive the ejection system is on their double rifle barrels.

Yes I own a 412, (and I still own many bbl. sets) I was VERY involved with them in the past.

The DR bbls., have two types of extraction systems, "rimmed" cases have selective ejectors and "rimless" have extractors that just "lift" the cases.

Both systems work just fine, but like pretty much all break open rifles, these aren't guns that you can hotrod the handloads. IF, you do, you will have sticking cases, especially in the top bbl...

DM

You can look at Savage Model 24's

I had a few.
I sold a 30/30 over 12/g years ago, but probably should have kept it.

I still have a .223 over 12/g
and an old .22LR over .410 from around 1930 (I think)

I've got a 22WMR/20ga Savage M24.

It was perfect for a do-all critter gitter back in Ohio.

There's not as much out west here that'd I'd use it for, but I'm tempted to hold onto it.

dredd said:

You can look at Savage Model 24's

I had a few.
I sold a 30/30 over 12/g years ago, but probably should have kept it.

I still have a .223 over 12/g
and an old .22LR over .410 from around 1930 (I think)

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whst kind of accuracy do you get out of them?

I have my great uncles .222 over 20g Savage 24V-A.
I was told that he used it for deer, although at the time he would have been using it, I don't think the .222 would have been legal for deer hunting. As I recall, at the time bullets had to be above a certain weight to be legal, I believe it was 90grains or above.
While it would be legal now, I have never used it as I have what I consider to be better options. Accuracy would be sufficient for the ranges I hunt at, 75yrds or less, thanks to the thick brush in my woods.

Many of the 24's were quite accurate, it was regulation that was/is the problem.

Also they are very crude compared to the Savage/Valmet 2400's, that CAN be easily regulated.

DM

I have an early built (1931) Merkel in 12g. over .25/35 that is a keeper. A week ago I visited my farm in North Dakota and while just there to hunt pheasants I spooked out a muley doe in early morning and she dropped with a single shot at about 90 yards. I only got one pheasant the rest of the day as they were hard to locate and saw very very few. The rifle is not scoped so it is light and a joy to carry.