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kmw1954 said:
Now there have been 44 responses and I have yet to see anyone mention the one widely known issue of Failure to Fire with many Axis rifles, mine included. The issue seems to revolve around the guns firing pin spring and has been well reported on the Savage forum. Mine I tried reloading using CCI #41 primers and ended up with a 50% FTF rate. With all other primers I get about 3% failure with what looks like very light primer strikes. I still refuse to eliminate this gun.
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Hugger-4641 said:
Not doubting what you say, but I own 2 and have sighted in 6 more this season that I don't own, haven't seen the FTF problem yet, maybe they fixed the issue. Mine and all the others I shot are less than 2yrs old.
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These issues usually seem to pop up ("edit" randomly) with axis rifles, I've read about them more than once. Ive also never read about a generally agreed upon "cure".......or seen the problem in any that I've worked on for that matter.
One of the things I dislike about the axis isn't he goofy striker spring, but generally it works fine.
I also kinda wonder if the number of crap primers is higher now than it has been in the past. I've had maybe a dozen failures over the last two years and never seen a single one till then.
 
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The gun was purchased used with a very low round count, they bought it to coyote hunt with and after just a few hunts he went back to his 6.5CM. It was never returned to Savage. A change in primers almost solved the problem.

As it goes the problem to a large part involves the firing pin spring and a number years ago Savage did an update to the spring, The original spring was one piece the new springs are now two pieces with a washer in-between them which is said to help but did not cure it. For anyone that wants to know more just do a web search for Savage Axis FTF and you will get hours of reading material. Some will even direct you back to this forum!
 
I survived Black Friday which was nothing short of a miracle. My turn finally came and the two cartridges in stock were 7mm-08 Remington and the 25-06 Remington. The 7mm-08 wasn't even listed as a sale gun but I took it. The 7mm-08 (another spawn of the 308 Win) is a cartridge I like and load. The rifle is pretty lightweight and for the bang per buck I did not expect hand rubbed black walnut. :) I will load up some Sierra 150 grain HPBT since I have plenty of them. I will also just prims a few and look at the primer strikes. I also have some IMR 4895 and IMR 4064. Pretty sure I have some new 7mm-08 brass somewhere around here.

Cabela's was a Black Friday nightmare as could be expected but it did pay off. Thank God you pay for the gun at the gun counter as checkout lines extended through the store so I blew anything else off and was happy to leave with my life. :) I will post my primer strike results.

Ron
 
I think you'll like it, 7mm-08 is one of those that has actually been somewhat available consistently at Cabella's.
This one is my SIl's .308 that I developed a load and sighted in for him. 20210906_194632.jpg
 
So a few hours ago I get a call from Cabela's. I thought it was a little unusual when the gentleman handed me a 4473 with my receipt. Before I forget they did give me a 5% veteran discount which was nice. So a very nice girl calls me today and tells me they gave me their 4473, I thought that was strange? :) So Monday I'll mail them the 4473. She was a real sweetheart and told me they will be sending me a gift card. On a bright note I found my new Remington 7mm-08 brass.

Yes, I'll prime several a little later and post the primer strike pictures. I did look at Boyd's and saw a few nice Walnut stocks which cost about what the gun cost so the son-in-law is on his own. :)

Ron
 
OK, as to primer strikes. Five new Remington 7mm-08 cartridges all primed with my old stash of CCI 200 primers. Obviously less a powder charge and bullet so the spent primers aren't going to be flat from slamming into a bolt face. :).

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Primers were seated till they bottomed out and about 0.003" below case heads. They all went bang just fine. While some Savage Axis rifles may have had light primer strikes this one appears just fine. The rifle has a nice feel to it when shouldered to me anyway. When I was about 36 years old I would have been real happy if I got one under a Christmas tree. :) I will give the son-in-law some rifle pointers and then he is on his own. I know his brother is a pretty avid shooter.

Ron
 
kmw1954 said:
Now there have been 44 responses and I have yet to see anyone mention the one widely known issue of Failure to Fire with many Axis rifles, mine included. The issue seems to revolve around the guns firing pin spring and has been well reported on the Savage forum. Mine I tried reloading using CCI #41 primers and ended up with a 50% FTF rate. With all other primers I get about 3% failure with what looks like very light primer strikes. I still refuse to eliminate this gun.
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I suppose no one else mentioned this issue because we did not experience it. Mine has never failed to fire. Maybe it is not as common a problem as you read online.
 
It only happened a couple times with # 41 primers, American eagle factory loads. Some fired after a second hit. Not a huge issue for my old axis 2, never had a problem with commercial loads or handloads.
 
I have a couple of savage rifles and I truly enjoy them. On of my favorite things is how easy they are to convert. Getting a 110 means the barrel spins right off and the bolt face swaps in a snap. If the barrel on the axis changes easy picking the 308/243/6.5cm bolt face means if they prefer a different caliber or want to target shoot barrel replacement is easy.
 
wombat13 said:
I suppose no one else mentioned this issue because we did not experience it. Mine has never failed to fire. Maybe it is not as common a problem as you read online.
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So the Axis I have is not an AXIS II, it is pre Accutrigger and there are two versions of the action the 93R and the 93e. The 93e is the currant version. Yet both still use the same bolt and firing pin spring. The problem in mine was exasperated buy the use of the CCI #41 primers. I still get an occasional non-fire.

Once again do a simple web search and you will soon see how widespread this issue is. Next compare that to the total number of Axis rifles out in the public as a Whole. Now IF you are not experiencing any of this then Great! That still dosen't eliminate it from being real.
 
AJC1 said:
I have a couple of savage rifles and I truly enjoy them. On of my favorite things is how easy they are to convert. Getting a 110 means the barrel spins right off and the bolt face swaps in a snap. If the barrel on the axis changes easy picking the 308/243/6.5cm bolt face means if they prefer a different caliber or want to target shoot barrel replacement is easy.
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Exactly the reason I am doing my target build with a Savage receiver, and the Model 10 I am shooting now I have a new never fired Model 12 Varmint barrel that will be going on it.
 
kmw1954 said:
Exactly the reason I am doing my target build with a Savage receiver, and the Model 10 I am shooting now I have a new never fired Model 12 Varmint barrel that will be going on it.
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There are two different spacings on their rifles. One is like 3.4 and then a 4.4. I run the larger spacing so my stocks can swap between every action. The system is not exactly fast for plug and play, but in about 2 hours I can swap any part to any rifle I want. I currently have 2 and would like a target action.
 
AJC1 said:
I have a couple of savage rifles and I truly enjoy them. On of my favorite things is how easy they are to convert. Getting a 110 means the barrel spins right off and the bolt face swaps in a snap. If the barrel on the axis changes easy picking the 308/243/6.5cm bolt face means if they prefer a different caliber or want to target shoot barrel replacement is easy.
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The Axis uses the same barrel nut system and takes the same barrels, so that is definitely a plus for the Axis as well.
 
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