There is a real STG 44 on GB at the moment...

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KarateHottie93

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I'm pretty sure this thing sits at the very top of more dream gun lists than anything else ever.

Whenever I think of the one firearm I want more than anything in life, it's the STG. It's so rare and expensive though that I just never mention it.

I finally caved and went on GB a minute ago to order a 22 LR replica. While on there I found this thing and just figured I'd share in case anyone with the money has been hoping to find one

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/916823426
 
Man weird that it's a post sample gun you would think as old as they are they would all be fully transferable.
 
OrangeCat said:
Man weird that it's a post sample gun you would think as old as they are they would all be fully transferable.
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I think that being a weldup its legal age is from when it was assembled from parts.
I don't expect a lot of customers for a post 86 dealer sample.
Although I knew a couple of members of a sample daisy chain. They paid their SOT, built guns, and swapped "samples" among themselves.
 
Yeah I think legally those weldups are whole new receivers.

Fun game if you can afford to get in to it.
 
OrangeCat said:
Man weird that it's a post sample gun you would think as old as they are they would all be fully transferable.
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A lot of stuff never made it into the registry during the 68 amnesty. People either didnt know/understand or didnt care. There are still a lot of nice, lovingly cared-for bring backs floating around that are contraband now if found.
 
Oh definitely, it'd be nice to have another amnesty for those sorts of things but probably all you would get is a bunch of guys cutting ejection ports into steel tubing.

( Not going to pretend that I would be above doing that)
 
AlexanderA said:
The German "grail gun" would be the FG 42. The few transferable ones would be well in excess of $100,000.
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I wouldn't argue with that. I still think if both were set in front of you and you could have either but never sell, most would take the STG. Not because it's a better gun. It's probably not. The FG was capable of so much. The STG is just iconic though. You can get a FAL, an AR, an AK, an M14, a CETME, a G3, and even an SL8 G36.

The STG is that one iconic rifle that's never been replicated for the civilian market in any meaningful way. Look at the HMG debacle. People are still blowing their FB up on a daily basis. I personally think the STG is by far both the most beautiful and the most intimidating small arm ever created.
 
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I think it is because it is made out of sheet metal stampings.
A big press is, like a forge, an expensive piece of equipment. Even a set of stamping dies for a well equipped contractor would be expensive, you would have to make a lot of guns to pay for it.
 
D.B. Cooper said:
What do you think the reason is for that being the case?
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What the guy above said...just a huge investment. I'm sure they would get it back if the quality is there. It's a huge task and a huge risk though. Especially in a world where you can produce a clone of just about any other mainstream rifle for a lot cheaper...simply due to availability of parts and tooling.

I wish someone with money would do with it like Kahr did with the Thompson. They actually own the Thompson name though so it's a whole different thing of course.

They HMG guns looked amazing. I was ready to buy one. There were several times I came close to puting in a pre order. I'm so glad I didn't after seeing what happened to other people though. This company took thousands of dollars from people and still found themselves unable to produce the gun for whatever reason.

It's kinda like a Luger. Such an iconic weapon that so many people want, but just too much time, money, and effort for anyone with the resources to seriously be interested. At least that's the only reason I can come up with.
 
Smgstore used to make semi-auto versions of the FG-42. I don’t know if they are out of business or just so far behind in orders it functionally doesn’t make a difference.
 
That STG would be really cool to have, but I would be afraid to fire it. It would be a really expensive safe queen. I read PPU still makes the ammo for it. A friend of mine in USMC EOD told me he saw several of those guns in iraq recovered from the bad guys, and he personally destroyed thousands of rounds taken from enemy caches. The MK19 is a totally different beast- obtaining ammo, and where you would fire it- represents a huge financial and logistical challenge. Even the "training" rounds have an explosive charge and are dud-producing.
 
FL-NC said:
A friend of mine in USMC EOD told me he saw several of those guns in iraq recovered from the bad guys...
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It amazes me that those guns made it all the way to Iraq and were still in use in warfare. Sounds like Mark Felton over on the u-tubes need to do a "Nazi small arms still in active service in 2021" video. (He's already done similar on Nazi tanks.)
 
Nuclear said:
Smgstore used to make semi-auto versions of the FG-42. I don’t know if they are out of business or just so far behind in orders it functionally doesn’t make a difference.
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Oh really? That’s a shame. I heard good things, but didn’t know they were overwhelmed.

Everyone loves to talk about how they’d snap up a repro Stg-44, or Broomhandle Mauser, or Merlin Hulbert, but when it comes time they aren’t willing to put in the cash or are let down by volatile outfits.

These old-world manufacturing methods becoming more expensive by the day. New guns are now shot out of plastic injection and MIM molding machines.
 
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