Rifle in same cartridge as handgun .357

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gotboostvr said:
Ruger and S&W have both done that, putting a seventh shot in both the GP100 and 686 without changing the name.
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Yeah you're right, they have, but not quite the same situation and here's why. The 686 7-shot is called the "686 Plus 3-5-7," and in Ruger's case the GP100 has for the longest time been an umbrella designation with various sub-models in different calibers and capacities, so no big deal there. The 686 and Ruger GP100 in 357 Mag are still available new in 6-shot. The Taurus 66 is not, even though it was once their flagship traditional 357.

Taurus dropped their lesser known 6-shot fixed rear sight Model 65 from the line, renamed the adjustable rear sight model 66 to 65 and designated a new and different 7-shot as Model 66, as though the original 6-shot 66 never existed. It couldn't be more confusing. I'm sure the folks at Taurus were smokin' somthin' in those days.

The original Taurus 66 was a basic entry level "K-frame" 357 like the Smith M19. It has that Bill Jordan vibe to it. Doing the model name switcheroo like they did was just bad marketing and poor costumer service for their existing customers.

Lnf Crzr said:
I really like my 686+
7 rounds, that’s a lot of 357 on tap
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I like 7-shooters just fine. That 7th shot may save your life (especially if you miss the first six times). What I don't like is having to scroll through about 400 pages of web results pertaining to the 7-shot Model 66 before finding results pertaining to the original 6-shot 66 that I own.

Funny too, because I also have an old Model 85 stainless 5-shot 38 Spl. Years later when Taurus added a 6-shot version of the M85 it was designated as the 856. Similar thing when the Model 82 (38 Spl) came out in a 7-shot. They kept the 6-shot 82 in the line and designated the 7-shot as the 827. Almost as if that 3rd number has something to do with capacity. That's the way to do it.

Oh well, at this point the Taurus 66 has been a 7-shot for as long or maybe longer than it was a 6-shooter. I keep my firearms in such pristine condition it's hard to believe I've owned some of them for so long. My 66 still looks new. To me there are no old guns or new guns; just guns we like and others we're not that crazy about. For another example, I would never buy a revolver with a safety on it. I'd just as soon dress in women's clothing and hang around in bars.

/Rant

Hey, this rant belongs in the revolver section, doesn't it? Eh... accidents happen. (just ask Taurus)
 
This gp100
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With its brother
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That's the 357 pair I chose. Both rugers. I'm not a ruger fan boy , they just make what I want to buy. Been very happy with this pair as a do-all camp combo. The carbine will feed anything I've tried with it but I haven't found a perfect cast load for it, the revolver shoots everything equally well. Carbine shoots very tight groups with 158 grain xtp bullets. Like anything, somewhat of a never ending work in progress .
 
I have taken deer with both the 357 and the 44 mag- .....both are capable.... I prefer the 44 mag- the 44 performs better due to the heavier bullets-
 
I have been wanting a 357 lever gun for sometime but something else always pops up to buy. Maybe one day. It would go good with my Uberti.
 
A .357 magnum in a carbine has long been the prewferred 'yote medicine among ranchers in my area.:thumbup:
 
Beck said:
Your idea of cartridge compatible pistol and carbine combo is as old as the Old West.
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Howdy

1878 to be exact. Winchester brought out the Model 1873 lever action rifle chambered for 44-40 in, wait for it, 1873. Colt introduced the Single Action Army, chambered for 45 Colt in 1873. In 1878, Colt chambered the SAA for 44-40, so a shooter could have a rifle and pistol both chambered for the same cartridge. (Rifles were never chambered for 45 Colt in the 19th Century, that is a completely modern development from sometime in the 1980s.) By the way, 44-40 was the second most popular chambering of the First Generation Single Action Army, with 71,391 chambered for the cartridge. Second only to 45 Colt with 158,885 chambered for that cartridge.




Not 44-40, this Winchester Model 1873 left the factory in 1887 and the Colt Bisley left the factory in 1909. Both are chambered for 38-40.

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While on the subject of matching calibers, this Winchester Model 1892 left the factory in 1911. The S&W 32-20 Hand Ejector on the left shipped in 1916 and the Colt Police Positive Special on the right shipped in 1926. All three are chambered for 32-20.

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I have lots of 357 Magnum revolvers, but I apparently need to take a photo of one with this Marlin Model 1894CS. It is the only rifle I own chambered for 357 Mag. A very nice little shooter with 38 Specials, a real little powerhouse with 357 Mag. Yes, bullets with sharp shoulders can have feeding problems with lever guns, particularly ones with a tilting carrier such as this Marlin. I originally bought it for Mrs Johnson when she was shooting CAS with me, because she did not like my 24" barrelled rifles. I was loading powder puff 125 grain Truncated Cone 38 Specials for her. The little Marlin gobbled them up. She doesn't shoot CAS any more, but the little Marlin is not for sale.

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