Concealed Carry - Friend's House

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I suspect it will become an issue if you find yourself in front of a judge after using your firearm.
Everything usually is.

Like anything else, it all depends on what you did. Just dont have your supper killer reloads in the gun. I hear that's really bad. :)
 
I have a wide range of friends, from pretty liberal "No one needs an AR15" types to folks that are bigger gun nuts than I am. If any one of them made it known they didn't want guns in their home, I'd respect that. But I carry a very small 380, so it pretty much dissappears when I carry. I think the question i would need answered by the OP is, how was it that he knew the SIL was carrying under is shirt, did the OP clock him, or did the SIL somehow make it known he was carrying...there's a difference. If he made it known he was carrying, whether during a conversation about firearms, or some other seemingly innocuous event, or a "Check this out" kind of interjection...well that makes a difference too. In either event, perhaps a chat about what concealed is and isn't may be in order. A G19 printing like a full colostomy bag isn't very well concealed in my estimation. And revealing a firearm either by sight or by speech, well thats not concealed either.
 
Let me clarify a point in the original post, that has attracted confusion; giving your gun to the host. I added that option, because someone did it to me, and it was a good idea.

I hired a fellow I know to do some do home construction; tear down a chimney and remodel a bathroom. For at least one day the fellow brought a worker w him in the work van to help. On those day(s) the fellow gave me a .38 snub in a holster to hold for him. I imagine he didn't have a safe place in the van to lock it, the gun would be in the way during construction, and didn't want it accessible to his helper.

I'm guessing we've all worked w people out of necessity, but you might not trust them 100% w all things in all situations. Like this fellow's helper.
 
I came to the conclusion early on, Im just going to do what I want and need to take care of me, as best I can, as Im the only one that really cares about me and is responsible for me. No one else is going to do it better and their rules arent usually for my benefit anyway, no matter how much Im told they are.

I chose to enjoy life and not worry too much about others fears and insecurities, as long as they keep them to themselves and dont try and project them on me. When they do, I mostly ignore them as best I can, which is pretty easy.

Unfortunately, there seem to be a lot of fearful and insecure people out there, and fear seems to be a very popular thing to push these days. I always get a chuckle too, when around others and they are going off about guns and other scary things, and the very thing they fear, is standing right in front of them, watching them wring their hands and listening to them whine about it. LOL, if they only knew. :)

If you're worried about what others think, then dont carry your gun. Their worries seem to be more important than your needs and choices. Otherwise, do what you want.

Most people are too tied up in themselves and their phones, etc, to notice. Ive carried full sized handguns pretty much every day of my adult life, and much of that in NPE's, and never had any problems. What they dont know can hurt them, but unless they do something really, REALLY stupid, probably wont. :)
 
If you went to your friends home for supper and brought an uninvited child you would ask it it were ok. It is common politeness.
If you went to a friends home for a party and brought you constant companion dog you would ask if it were ok. It is just common politeness.

I guess we have different definitions of 'friends'.

With my group of friends, kids, spouses and service/companion dogs are part of the invite. That's common politeness.

In fact,, I can't imagine having a friend that its understood that if he calls & invites me that he's automatically excluding my family unless specifically invited.

We don't really do things that aren't family friendly.

Do you?
 
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If leaving in the car isn't safe, I give it to the homeowner I'm visiting, to hold for me.

What possible sense does it make to hand your firearm over to the homeowner/host while you are visiting?
In doing so , the element of self defense is defeated.
Safety? How is it safer to have multiple people handling the firearm rather than leaving it secured on your person? Is the individual you are surrendering it to fully competent in the handling of firearms? If so , why would he want you to disarm? Are you clearing and fully unloading the firearm before handing it over? Do you have say in where it will be stored during your visit? Are you then reloading prior to traveling home?

All this unnecessary gun handling brings with it an element of risk. None of it makes any sense.
 
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If you went to your friends home for supper and brought an uninvited child you would ask it it were ok. It is common politeness.
If you went to a friends home for a party and brought you constant companion dog you would ask if it were ok. It is just common politeness.
When attending a gathering it is also common courtesy to let your host know you are armed. I would not announce it to the gathering at large but your host should know.

Common politeness is not prying into others' personal business.

Extremely poor analogy. Does one have to ask permission from one's host to wear pink underwear?

A handgun won't run around the house or eat the food.
 
I typically pocket carry at someone else's house. It's the most discreet method I have where it's highly unlikely anyone would know that I'm carrying. I haven't run into a situation yet where that's been an issue, but under no circumstances would I hand over my firearm to the homeowner.
 
If you are welcome in our home, we trust you and your decisions. If we do not, we generally will not invite you in. If I observe unsafe gun handling, the matter is addressed at that time and if confidence is lost, no invitations occur in the future.

Despite the political climate in MA, guns are not evil and those who carry them are not evil because they carry. I see no issue unless the gun is not properly secured. If young ones inquire, it is a teachable moment.
 
It is really a sad state of affairs when someone is living in such a constant state of fear that even when going to a friends home for dinner or to play cards they must be armed.
When they break out the beers and whiskey do you put your guns away?

I'll interpret that statement as you don't carry a concealed handgun on a routine daily basis. If you did, you'd know that carrying a gun on a routine daily basis is simply the same as getting dressed for the day.

Of course, your experiences are probably different than mine. Maybe your town is a really nice place. The city I live in is an overpopluated and unpredictable place where the bad blends in with the good.
 
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I am a gun guy, I carry almost always, my friends know I carry, I don't frequent other peoples homes. So I guess the most likely place someone would complain is if they somehow got a glance of my carry in a store or place of business. if that made them uncomfortable, they would ask me to leave and I would.

My Dentist and I talk about guns all the time, he carries also. My doctor has a sign on the door that says no weapons, so, since I like my doctor, I respect their request and I lock my gun in my truck when I visit her.

If it bothers you that a family member carries a weapon into your house, ask them not to. If they don't like it they will leave and may or may not come back to visit, if they are reasonable and respectful, they will lock it in their car (or wherever) and in the future not bring a weapon into your house if you have asked them not to do this and they feel that is unreasonable they won't likely come back.

My job does not allow weapons on property, I lock mine up before I go in to work when going into the office. Would I prefer to be carrying, of course, but, I have to make compromises sometimes, I choose to work and support my family, so, I don't carry there.

Maybe I am missing the point, but, it comes down to respect for other peoples wishes in their home or place of business. If I were thinking of going someplace where I felt I needed a gun to be safe, then I would not go there.

I carry a gun "in case" for when lightning strikes, but along with that, I am also cautious, I don't go to bad places which reduces that chance of lightning striking, I also do not walk out into a thunderstorm with a golf club or fly rod in my hand when I could stay at home and participate in "The High Road".

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I carry, concealed, when I go over anyone's house. I would never hand my gun to said homeowner. Don't want me carrying in your home? That's your right, but I'm likely not coming back either.
 
We attended services this morning. Among the attendees' there are armed individuals' it's just an accepted fact thus your free to stay or free to leave. Services are will attended. No one goes running for the door screaming so and so has a gun.
 
To me concealed means concealed. If someone notices I’m carrying the I’m not doing a good job at concealment.

I carry every day all day no matter where I go, including friends houses. Been doing it for years and it’s never been noticed yet. I’ll keep it that way.
 
Let me clarify a point in the original post, that has attracted confusion; giving your gun to the host. I added that option, because someone did it to me, and it was a good idea.

I hired a fellow I know to do some do home construction; tear down a chimney and remodel a bathroom. For at least one day the fellow brought a worker w him in the work van to help. On those day(s) the fellow gave me a .38 snub in a holster to hold for him. I imagine he didn't have a safe place in the van to lock it, the gun would be in the way during construction, and didn't want it accessible to his helper.

I'm guessing we've all worked w people out of necessity, but you might not trust them 100% w all things in all situations. Like this fellow's helper.
I can buy that one. My only problem with it would be if he doesn't trust his help, I'd have second thoughts about giving his help access to MY HOUSE. He would be under a close eye, AT THE LEAST.
 
No reason to and quite frankly a little weird. Only time I have it on at a friends house is when I visit one of my best friends and I don't leave it in the truck because his son absolutely loves getting in my truck and I would rather have it on me than in the truck. Yeah, I keep it locked but that boy is obsessed with trucks and wants to sit in it, open the tailgate and pick him up so he can play in the bed, etc. I learned that lesson when his dad took his 1911 off due to going in some place its not allowed and working in an area with a 90% crime rate he shoved it between the driver seat and console. His son got in his unlocked truck and I said is he allowed in there cause I know you have your tools in there? He freaked cause his 1911 was between the seats. He doesn't do that anymore.

Giving the gun to the homeowner to hold is weird, not safe and just, yeah, um, okay. :(.
 
I know who’s houses I am going to. If I didn’t think they would be comfortable with me carrying I am not going to put that person in the awkward position of having to ask me not to bring a firearm into their home.

With that said, I have few friends (similar mind set as me) and carrying is a non issue. Now I do have some liberal family members but I’d rather get kicked in the crotch repeatedly than spend enough time with them that would require me to cross the threshold of their door ways.
 
Completely 100% depends! I think it depends on how you know the person, how well you know the person, what the person is like.

If you think it would offend the person I probably wouldn’t carry into their home, also if I did not know a person well enough to have a feeling if they would be offended or not I wouldn’t carry into their home either. But if it’s a person I know well (let’s say a son-in-law/father-in-law) and I don’t think they would have an issue with it I would not feel awkward about it.

that being said I feel like the bigger issue here is that you knew your SIL had a concealed carry on him. He isn’t doing a great job concealing it if you noticed.
 
I would never give my gun to another person to hold for me while I visited them. What’s the point to it. They certainly know you have a gun with you. I would not leave my gun in my car unless I had no alternative. Anyone I know more than casually knows that I carry and gun and why I do so. If anyone cannot accept that, then I won’t go to their house. I believe that carrying a gun is the best thing I can do be prepared for violence so I carry all the time, even in my house. At bedtime the gun is on the nightstand. Keep in mind that you can encounter violence in another person’s home. Home invaders go where they please.

+1 I expect my friends to be armed when they come over to my house. I am when I go to theirs.
 
I figure it this way. My home, my rules. I have no issue at all with responsible gun carry in my home. The home of another is their home and their rules and if they oppose carry of a gun in their home my options are simple, either leave the gun or don't visit. Really does not get any simpler.

Ron
 
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