Help to identify old 22 rifle
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entropy
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Pull the barreled action out of the stock; there may be some proof (or any other) marks under the wood. Posts pics of any there, one (or more) of us should be able to at least tell you where it came from.
Scooter22
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It's one of the versions of a Marlin Model 80. If it's not grooved on top for a scope it's a early one. Good rifles and accurate. Hope you have the mag for it. They used to be 15.00 up until a couple years ago. Now they are 75-100. If it isn't marked Marlin it,s probably a "house brand" gun made for one of the large catalog stores. Some just had a numeric code as the store model number. It won,t have a serial number either. They weren't added until GCA of 1968.. Good luck.
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BigBlue 94
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Marlin 80 was sold by Sears as a J.C. Higgins model 141 or something like that. Buddy of mine bought one. Looked similar to the above.
codytrucker
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Looks like a Marlin Glenfield model 20 . looks like someone modified the stock a little . Glenfield's usually had birch stocks .
deadeye dick
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I have a .22 I bought new in 1954 for $35.00 Still have it. Don't remember where I bought It. The markings are as follows, Springfield Savage Model 850 No serial # They call it a hardwhere gun NRA couldn't help. Maybe that's what you have.
Ugly Sauce
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Yes, looks "Marlinish" to me also. A magazine could be very problematic. Might consider plugging the magazine well and putting a floorplate in the action and turn it into a single shot. I love old .22LR single shots, that might not appeal to you.
Rubone
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I have an early 70's Marlin 780, uses the same magazine as an 80, 20 25, hardware store versions, etc. Sadly since Marlin's sale to Ruger all that stuff has become obsolete and the scalpers are hard on it to squeeze every cent out of them. The 780 is third from the bottom in this picture.
jar
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reloaded_in_pa
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My guess is a Remington Model 33.
Catpop
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From bolt pic: It’s not a Marlin 100 (1935-1959) or a very early Stevens 83- both of these have a stamped flat firing pin- this one appears to be round firing pin. Also both of those are hand pull cock after closing bolt. This one appears to be cock on closing bolt type.
My guess is Marlin 80 variant or maybe an early Savage.
My guess is Marlin 80 variant or maybe an early Savage.
jar
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Another possibility are the Remington Bolt Action Magazine rifles.
Here is my Remington 511 ScoreMaster from 1945:
But I don't know if Remington ever supplied rifles to mass market companies. It is not listed as one of the Sears branded suppliers.
Here is my Remington 511 ScoreMaster from 1945:
But I don't know if Remington ever supplied rifles to mass market companies. It is not listed as one of the Sears branded suppliers.
entropy
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I had thought it was one of the German interwar 'sport' rifles, because of the thinning of the stock just in front of the bolt cut-out, but they usually had Mauser-type safeties, or the single shots had a cocking knob. I did find one model that had the same shaped trigger guard, but it had a military-type rear sight, and yours has a typical slide elevator rear.
MachIVshooter
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Pretty generic looking rimfire rifle, but the trigger guard screams Marlin.
I just looked through my copy of Marlin Firearms (Brophy). It's not a Marlin or a Glenfield. The bolt handle slot in the stock is too far forward, the trigger is placed too far forward in the trigger guard, and the cocking piece on the back of the bolt is wrong. Not to mention that milled section on the stock. That doesn't match any 22 I have seen.
Scooter22
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It's a Marlin model 80. I have one. Heres some others. OP rifle has the regular open sights instead of the receiver sight. Some have the receiver and ramp front with a filler in the barrel slot.. This stock is the target style stock. Th shadow seen below the ejection port is where the stock get thicker on the forend. Not a slot.
https://www.armslist.com/posts/1053...-carolina-rifles-for-sale--marlin-model-80-dl
https://www.bidspotter.com/en-us/au...0000/lot-e42914b0-691b-4a03-a621-acf4014aec99
Look at the middle rifle here. Hit the Enlarge to see closer. It's the same but with standard stock. There were different trigger guards and shape of bolts over the years.
https://cfnparts.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=344
https://www.armslist.com/posts/1053...-carolina-rifles-for-sale--marlin-model-80-dl
https://www.bidspotter.com/en-us/au...0000/lot-e42914b0-691b-4a03-a621-acf4014aec99
Look at the middle rifle here. Hit the Enlarge to see closer. It's the same but with standard stock. There were different trigger guards and shape of bolts over the years.
https://cfnparts.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=344
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Hmmm. Neither of the rifles shown have the fluting cut into the front of the stock comb. I wonder why that is. On the other hand, the weird bend in the bolt handle is certainly there.
Also interesting is Marlin almost always roll stamped the top of their barrels. Brophy has a clear picture of a Model 80 roll stamp which has a two line company name and location (Marlin Firearms Co and New Haven, Conn.) followed by MODEL 80E ( in the case of the example) in bigger letters. A serial number should be present on the gun also.
Plastic trigger guards were introduced in 1939 and the safety was located on the right rear of the receiver. Both those match.
I have to concur with Scooter22. It has features found on versions of the Model 80, but doesn't really match completely and isn't marked. A catalog house brand gun seems to be the most likely explanation.
I have to concur with Scooter22. It has features found on versions of the Model 80, but doesn't really match completely and isn't marked. A catalog house brand gun seems to be the most likely explanation.
Scooter22
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Who knows. Stock looks like it was refinished so they could have been added by who did it. But my guess is it's the run of those stocks. Lacking any markings we don,t know if it was Marlin marked or one of the house brands. Could have been made for Sears or Ranger(which is also Sears). HBs often had different or mixed features so oddballs show up. I collect old Mossbergs and thats real common. Same with old Savages and Stevens. Looks like a good rifle if the bore is ok.
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The bolt, action and barrel look like this one.
https://www.proxibid.com/Firearms-M...-L-LR-Cal-Bolt-Action/lotInformation/49433569
As does this one.
https://www.marlinowners.com/threads/marlin-model-80-help.168792/#lg=thread-168792&slide=0
The acorn nut looking tailstock (not to be confused with Remington bee hive looking ones that have the ‘cocked’ indicator) and straight handle are fairly unique.
https://www.proxibid.com/Firearms-M...-L-LR-Cal-Bolt-Action/lotInformation/49433569
As does this one.
https://www.marlinowners.com/threads/marlin-model-80-help.168792/#lg=thread-168792&slide=0
The acorn nut looking tailstock (not to be confused with Remington bee hive looking ones that have the ‘cocked’ indicator) and straight handle are fairly unique.
Scooter22
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Great description! Bee hive also has circumferule ridges
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