Is it ok to store a gun like this in the safe?

Waveski said:

I saw a news report on that incident. In it was a statement that the store manager was standing somewhere behind the counter guy ; the manager told counter guy to surrender the cash.
That was the right thing to do. The perp had a jammed gun , but it was still a gun. Always the chance that he would take a swipe at the slide and succeed in clearing the jam.
It's only money. This was not an action movie , it was real life.

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oh, OK
Yeh, and they had a real good pic of the guy, maybe even a recording of his voice too.
Still, I can pontificate about it though, isn't that what's going on here anyways, playing the what if games...
No need to respond here, you're wasting your wisdom on me.
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dekibg said:

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the reason is that this gun has a pretty strong recoil spring and racking it may be a problem for my wife - I am also not comfortable with her just grabbing a gun ( if needed ) , and it is already fully loaded , she doesn’t have a good finger discipline and rarely goes to the range. This way she just needs to release the slide stop and gun is ready

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There are several obvious problems here that won't be solved by handing over a loaded handgun!
1) Get an alarm system with video and signs for every window and the front door.
2) Get a big noisy dog.
3) Keep ALL firearms locked up until everyone with access is trained by a competent defensive firearms instructor that will have a variety of firearms for handling/firing.

Firearms deemed for defensive use should be in condition "one" (ready for use)!

Think about the training required prior to driving a car!

Smiles,

I understand the desire to have something your wife can protect herself with, but if she hasn't developed trigger discipline yet, you have a ways to go before arming her (IMHO, of course.)

There are enough stories of folks shooting spouses, children and guests in error; the discipline to control your trigger finger is only the very first step in becoming responsible enough to use a firearm for protection.

In the interim (or perhaps forever) I'd agree that bear spray is a better alternative.

Larry

Another vote for the EZ. I bet she’d be surprised at how easy it is!

dekibg said:

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the reason is that this gun has a pretty strong recoil spring and racking it may be a problem for my wife - I am also not comfortable with her just grabbing a gun ( if needed ) , and it is already fully loaded , she doesn’t have a good finger discipline and rarely goes to the range. This way she just needs to release the slide stop and gun is ready

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I can't think of a worse option for someone unfamiliar with firearms, dropping the side can cause a "startle reaction" that could reflexively tighten the grip and cause a negligent discharge with poor trigger discipline.

Ready to go or unloaded, IMHO. Firearms designers have spent over 300 years perfecting the point and click interface. My experience with people who have never fired a gun before is virtually all get a good COM hit a 7 yards on the first shot with minimal instruction, but the rest of the shots are generally in the dirt in front of the target as they over-react to recoil. Then the learning how to shoot begins.

I didn't read all the replies but IMO, have her try to rack a S&W Shield EZ. Assuming she can (I've not met someone who cannot), buy the gun, a flashlight, a good IWB kydex holster with a belt clip, a biometric safe, and sign her up for training classes. Keep the gun loaded and holstered in the safe. The gun will then be secure from any kids you might have in the house, but your wife will have immediate access to it with a finger swipe.

The holster purpose is three-fold. First, it prevents your finger from landing on the trigger if you grab the gun in the dark, yet only takes a half second to rip it off. Second, if you hear a bump in the night, you can slip the holster in your pj's to check it out instead of walking around with the gun in hand, only to realize it's your kid coming in late or a cop checking on something in the neighborhood, etc. Finally, she can carry the gun if she would later decide to choose.

While a weapon light would also make a good addition, the flashlight should be the primary go-to so you're not pointing a loaded gun everywhere just to see in the dark, for obvious reasons.

I taught my wife to use a handgun when we were dating. First time she had ever shot one. I used a double action revolver because it was my only handgun at the time. She really liked it. First time she tried an automatic she fumbled with the slide and griped about having too many steps to remember. I leave her a double action revolver with two speed loaders already loaded next to it and a full cylinder for when I ain't home. I'm fully confident she can defend herself with this. She is not a firearms inthusiest by any stretch but she can put all 6 shots out a .357 magnum in center mass on a silhouette at the indoor range. Get your wife to this level of skill/comfort and you got it covered

Sorry, thought I posted this last nite...

FL-NC said:

A gun in a safe isn't very accessible in the...

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I didn't address that in my post, I simply answered the post as best I could GOOD POINT ! !

BlueHeelerFl said:

And for an off the wall idea how about a coach gun? Something...

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GLAD someone caught it, perhaps, this is for HOME DEFENSE. A...SHOTGUN. Of whatever flavor, pump, auto etc.

How many times on here has it been stressed. Handgun isn't the FIRST CHOICE for personal defense, it's easiest to CARRY. Easiest to CONCEAL. Other etc.

A handgun is hard to fight with. Perhaps she would be more comfortable with some sort of PDW? Being able to shoulder a firearm is very helpful when attempting to hit a target. There are many AR-9s on the market chambered in 9mm which are very easy to shoot.

Choctaw said:

A handgun is hard to fight with. Perhaps she would be more comfortable with some sort of PDW? Being able to shoulder a firearm is very helpful when attempting to hit a target. There are many AR-9s on the market chambered in 9mm which are very easy to shoot.

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Meh.

Long guns have their drawbacks, too. Their length can easily be a drawback for home defense in areas of narrower confines, for example. They're also heavier.

I think its ridiculous to discuss "what gun" for someone with no concept of safety.

bdickens said:

I think its ridiculous to discuss "what gun" for someone with no concept of safety.

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...and who apparently isn't filled with urgency to gain the skills needed to safely use a handgun in self-defense...

dekibg said:

and rarely goes to the range.

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I suspect that the OP is trying to be teacher here. My experience has been that most men who try to teach their wife anything are likely living in a deep mancave of delusion.

My bet: offering to arrange and pay for the wife to get some one-on-one time with a competent instructor, with husband nowhere to be seen, would go a long way to solving the OP's dilema.

If she isn't interested in this, OP should focus on developing his own skills, because he can't develop her abilities for her.

luzyfuerza said:

I suspect that the OP is trying to be teacher here. My experience has been that most men who try to teach their wife anything are likely living in a deep mancave of delusion.

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You also can't teach someone who won't learn....

Just me- I'm not able to solve this problem,
but I will say that maybe the woman is one
of those people who just can't shoot.
I know more than a few of them.
Some have many different firearms, but
they're just poor shots, and will never get
any better at it. I've been hunting with
people that were poor shots and poor
hunters but have been at it for years.
Not everyone is suited to shooting and
handling a firearm just like everybody
can't properly repair their own car, not
everyone can cook a good meal, some
can't catch a fish even with the best of
tackle, some can't do their own yard
work, etc. etc.
Maybe this woman is one of those people
that will never be able to safely and properly
use a firearm

"She does not have good trigger finger discipline" - if she cannot overcome that problem then she has NO business ever touching ANY firearm and your "logic" will not save her or anyone else around her. Think about what you're saying here.

While there's probably nothing wrong with storing the gun that way, there's really no reason to.
If she can't learn to work the slide, just store it ready to go.
It can sit in there in the same way as it could sit in a holster, ready to be picked up, and used.

With a .38, you can load the first two chambers with blanks, so if she does pull the trigger without meaning to, the gun won't hurt anyone or anything. It can be loaded and just sit there loaded and there is no pressure on any springs cause there isn't any. With an auto loader the springs get week when kept charged and ready to go and that is another reason they make snap caps. You can release the tension on the springs and if you have to use it, all you have to do is rack the slide. That is how I keep my auto's!! Both rifles and pistols.

As to the OP-
If Im going to store any of my guns for a long time, Itake a sliver of a cotton t-shirt and soak it in gun oil (Not dripping) and fill the barrel length with it.Also entire gun is in field strip position for longevity of any springs. New guns dont tend to loose spring tension as likely as an older one is, but either way If Im not planning on touching it for a loong time, this is my storge method. Parts are in a ziplock bag with a little spray of oil, and all is stuffed into a CaseClub water tight case for all the pistols. I currently dont have any in storage as I take a case with me randomly to the range and shoot whatever is in the case. here is the case link..
https://www.amazon.com/Case-Club-Waterproof-Accessory-Prevent/dp/B00K7M261M

As to the weaker hand issue talked about in the end of this thread, Ihave bought my GF a couple Ruger LCP's. She has bad artheritis in her fingers. She's got the original, the LCP II, and I just bought her a LCP MAX w/ ArmalaserGrip Sense Green laser on it for christmas.
The LCP II is a "light rack" thats her daily carry. It was originally advertised as a light rack. She has it nice and broke in and is a breeze to rack, but over time the spring lost a little strength and was prone to not locking the slide forward about every 2 or 3 clips, So I bought a 13lb upgrade spring set for it, and its back to almost new she said, and is still fairly easy to rack. I would recomend this thing for anyone with a light trigger squeeze issue.