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drk1 said:
I would second Mr. Craig C's comment. I thought my S&W K22 was good until I found an earlier one in the red box. I thought that was good until I found a Ratzeburg Korth. But I can only speak for the 22s, I've never handled or shot the larger calibers. Recently I've noticed a fellow in Florida offering several used Korth's in 22, that seem to be good based on what you can tell from pictures. If you're interested, I'd ask him how he came to have so many Korth's and hope he offered a reasonable explanation that didn't permit speculation about them having been abused. For example, did they belong to a gun club where they might have been abused, or is he just a collector disposing of a life-time accumulation. In any event, if you can find a good one and it's not an economic hardship and you enjoy shooting 22 revolvers, I would recommend one.
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The FL source was acquired from the German government, I recently bought one and it's great. I suspect it hadn't been shot for decades, the action was a bit stiff at first, after lubrication and about 1K action cycles at home and at the range it is much better. Absolutely the finest handgun I've ever owned, and I have a Python and have had a Manhurin (albeit a beater former cop gun) and a Sig P210. The seller said when he was putting discrete import marks on them it was the most difficult time he'd ever done that due to the hardness of the steel.

Will post a review when I get a chance.
 
A friend of mine shoots a Lollar Korth and loves it! He is a German gun dealer and has shot Ratzeburg Korths, Swiss SIGs, Sphinx and about every gun you can imagine. He loves his Lollar Korth and SIG Sauer P220 from the mastershop and prefers to take them to the matches. Like all serious shooters and competitiors he cares less for cosmetics but looks for the slightest advantage to score more points.
The Korth has helped him to a few medals and may just prove him right - even though the gun is just a small part in the success of a winning competitor.

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PzGren said:
A friend of mine shoots a Lollar Korth and loves it! He is a German gun dealer and has shot Ratzeburg Korths, Swiss SIGs, Sphinx and about every gun you can imagine. He loves his Lollar Korth and SIG Sauer P220 from the mastershop and prefers to take them to the matches. Like all serious shooters and competitiors he cares less for cosmetics but looks for the slightest advantage to score more points.
The Korth has helped him to a few medals and may just prove him right - even though the gun is just a small part in the success of a winning competitor.

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If nothing else for the intimidation factor at a competition. ;)
 
Stophel said:
They may be finely fitted and finished, and all that, but to be brutally honest.... they are hideously ugly.


Somebody had to say it. ;)
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Uhhhhh....no, THIS is hideously ugly. Korth's are beautiful. Not as beautiful as a S&W Registered Magnum .357, but beautiful in their own way.
 

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I find the earliest pre-69 Korths, Colt OMMs, and Weihrauch Arminius HW9 all to be ugly ducklings but they are all good shooters.
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AustinTX said:
I have a few Korth revolvers. Eight, to be exact, and hopefully nine before much longer. :) None of the guns are from the new Korth company in Lollar, though. All of mine were manufactured in Ratzeburg in the 1970s and 1980s.

The new ones are great guns, but I much prefer the originals in every way. Once you’ve caught the bug, it’s hard to stop. Just ask PzGren — he’s closing in on twenty of them (or may have already passed that number).

Also a huge fan and addict of Mulhouse-built Manurhin MR73s. I’d like to think that the Chapuis MR73s are their technical equals, but I’ve heard a couple of troubling reports about poor durability and substandard metallurgy in the current guns. Not enough to lead me to draw any firm conclusions, but enough to give me some pause until I see some well-documented proof of their comparable longevity. The current MR73s are built by an entirely different company from the one that built the originals. Manurhin got out of the gun-building business in the 1990s. Chapuis Armes bought the rights to continue production of the MR73 with the use of the Manurhin name and logo.
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Your thoughts on Janz... and where they stand... then and now...? Thanks... View attachment 1052016
 
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Beautiful guns, but not worth the money to me even though I can afford one. Mostly for the ultra elite wealthy families born to money where 100K for them is what 1K is for us, or for the person truly willing to own and pay for one regardless of financial status. Like buying a ribeye steak at the store you grill it up at home and you are satisfied and only paid $20 for it. Same steak at a fancy steakhouse is $75.

I am a gorilla when it comes to handling firearms and Korths are truly a work of art not suited for gorillas. My most expensive firearm is a Pedersoli Sharps paid close to 3K and 2 days later I had a huge gash on the bluing of the barrel...gorilla is what I am when it comes to firearms.
 
ms6852 said:
Beautiful guns, but not worth the money to me even though I can afford one. ...
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That depends on the purpose. You see the utilitarian value and the detriment of the investment from use. As an investment primarily and a gun to cherish and fondle it may not be a bad choice. The gun to the very left, an early Korth Combat, in post 85 sold for a little over $8,500 on Gunbroker just recently. If Janz ever retires, or gives up the gun business, the value will in all likelihood increase dramatically for such a rare item.
 
PzGren said:
That depends on the purpose. You see the utilitarian value and the detriment of the investment from use. As an investment primarily and a gun to cherish and fondle it may not be a bad choice. The gun to the very left, an early Korth Combat, in post 85 sold for a little over $8,500 on Gunbroker just recently. If Janz ever retires, or gives up the gun business, the value will in all likelihood increase dramatically for such a rare item.
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Nope, wrong again... This Janz is a trophy wife... and going to be doing a whole lot more than just fondling...

Mr Janz is a corporation... primarily modern dairy equipment and the Janz EM will be milked for all she is worth...

Janz, will not be retiring or going out of business or facing bankruptcy... because of its firearms ... and going downhill... or disappearing... Corporations, never die...

The used Janz EM357, is all of the cost of an ok used car... which have gone up 37% this year... Looking like a great investment for sure... when well cared for... and shot like hell... like any good trophy wife... :rofl:
 
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You are correct in your statement. I do see all firearms where the utilitarian value is based on use and not as an investment. Never do see the potential of firearms as a commodity to expand one's portfolio if one chooses to diversify.
 
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