Ever notice this about striker fired pistol trigger reviews?

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Ever notice that everyone (or almost everyone) thinks that the trigger on their striker fired gun is the best? Have these folks actually tried most or even some of the available triggers? I'm pretty sure that I haven't. But I have tried (as in dry fired) the triggers of just about all of the latest small wonder compact nines. Also a few others. I actually bought a Hellcat which I have since let go, and a currently have a Shield Plus. I also have a SIG X-Carry Legion and a Canik TP9SFX. All of these are nine MM. Out of everything mentioned above, I think the Canik has the best trigger. Supposedly it is copied after a Walther trigger. I've never handled a Walther. But my point is that I've watched pistol reviews on YT of all of these guns and more and at some point I've heard reviewers say that 'This is the best striker fired trigger out there'. Everyone seems to think that the one they just reviewed has the best trigger. Apparently all of our opinions about what is a good trigger vary wildly. I'm no expert, and we're all entitled to our opinions. But it just seems like almost everybody thinks their gun has the best striker fired trigger.

Now you all can tell me that your gun has the best trigger :D
 
I shoot pretty much all of them, SA, DA, DAO, and they are all good. Cant really say one is better than another.

To be honest, unless there's something mechanically wrong with them, which is pretty rare, I really dont pay that much attention to them.
 
For me, a good trigger is one that's suited for the pistol's primary function. A glass rod break might be great in a bullseye gun, but not so much in a carry pistol. A double action trigger is fine for carry, but not for making long range hits on metal plates. No different than any other feature - combine the right set for the task at hand.
 
I'll be 100% honest. I've never felt a trigger I didn't like. I've seen the reviews, and I can tell the difference between a stock and an upgraded trigger, but never one I "disliked". I even think the trigger on my Rohm RG-10 alright.
 
I hate striker fired triggers. I'll stick with my 1911/2011s, thanks
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Glocks have almost exactly the same trigger pull as most out of the box 1911's. You CAN modify a 1911 trigger to be better. And some come from the factory with target triggers.

1st gen Smith M&P's were similar to Glock, slightly stiffer to me. But the 2nd gen Smith's are pretty darn good. An Apex replacement trigger in a 1st gen Smith M&P will beat or match any 1911 I've ever shot.

Some of the Ruger's are pretty good too. But not all. The LC9s I had was very good. Some others not so much.

The Sig 320 series and 365 are better than Glock or Smith and are the best I've tried. Not saying something else might not be better, but of the ones I've tried Sig wins for best trigger.

In fact, the triggers on some striker fired guns are light, and short enough that they really need a 1911 style safety. My Sig's do, as well as the Smiths with Apex triggers. Glocks have triggers heavy enough to be OK without one.
 
jmr40 said:
Glocks have almost exactly the same trigger pull as most out of the box 1911's. You CAN modify a 1911 trigger to be better. And some come from the factory with target triggers.
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I have two 1911s and one 2011. The only factory pistol, a 20+ year old Kimber, was stripped to a bare frame and slide, those refitted by me, and basically rebuilt from the ground up. The other two are custom builds by me. I mentored under a custom pistol smith for a bit and he went on to start Extreme Engineering and making custom hammers, sears, and other stuff. I went on to spend the next 20 years building my own (and a few for others) USPSA Open class pistols.

So to be honest, I wouldn't know what a 'out of the box' 1911 trigger even feels like. But my situation is not the norm Sir. :)
 
I've never found a trigger that broke above 5 lbs with any take-up to be enjoyable. Crisp at 5lbs is tolerable if there's literally no take-up and a reasonably short reset. Except for an LCP II I picked up yesterday, everything I own has a trigger 4lbs or under with no creep, very little over travel and a short reset.

I'm a trigger snob. Yes, I shoot stuff with sub-optimal triggers because I like to shoot. My snobbery is more spite than anything. With the technology available today, there's no reason a $600 gun should have a crap trigger.

Picking a striker gun that has the best trigger is like shopping for the fastest compact sedan.
 
I think it's funny they make that claim after only 100 rounds or so. The stock trigger on my G29 is great now, that is, after thousands of rounds, years of dry firing, and lots of cleaning.
 
Worst was my old S&W SW99 .45 ACP. Long, spongy, creepy feel that must have been conceived by Rube Goldberg.
 
They all have the same rubbery, scrunchy feel to them so if one has a slightly less rubbery, scrunchy feel that gets a rave review. I like striker fired, I just expect it to have a rubbery, scrunchy trigger. What is wrong with that ;).

3C
 
LaneP said:
Worst was my old S&W SW99 .45 ACP. Long, spongy, creepy feel that must have been conceived by Rube Goldberg.
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Right; that Walther P99 lockwork was so horrible that it was often acknowledged as the best striker-fired trigger.
 
Trigger feel is entirely subjective and, IMO, just a matter of practice to master just about any trigger.

Doubly so when it comes to striker triggers that largely all feel the same.

I like Glocks, they work for me probably because do have more rounds down range with them than anything other that SAO.

But I’m convinced if you give me just about anything, 1000 rounds of ammo and time to dry fire I can make it work to the best of my capabilities.
 
I am of the same opinion. I can readily adapt to most any given trigger/action. While I prefer DA/SA, the trigger on my striker fired SIG P320 is the best. ;)
JR24 said:
Trigger feel is entirely subjective and, IMO, just a matter of practice to master just about any trigger.

But I’m convinced if you give me just about anything, 1000 rounds of ammo and time to dry fire I can make it work to the best of my capabilities.
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I have swapped the 5.5 lb striker spring to a WOLFF 5.0 lb spring and used a reduced power safety plunger spring to bring my Glock triggers to a level of semi-respectability. So far they've all been 100% reliable and not one has had issues with the safety plunger not engaging.

Some of my Glocks have triggers I can handle without altering the trigger itself. My 19, 45, 23, 44 all are ok.

Others, like my 17, 17L, 43, 43X, 48, etc. got either an APEX trigger/bar set up or a Viking Tactical trigger to replace the standard one. (The 43, 43X, 48-models pinched my trigger finger badly, those stock triggers absolutely stink for me and got the Vtac trigger!)

None of my Glocks have a trigger that matches my 1911's. They're just not made to work the same way, so no matter how nice/smooth/light they are they really can't compare. Same for my other autos...however my Ruger Mk IV and Mk II Govt Target have Volquartsen innards. They're smooth, creep-free, light and have no overtravel. :thumbup:

Stay safe.
 
wbwanzer said:
Ever notice that everyone (or almost everyone) thinks that the trigger on their striker fired gun is the best? Have these folks actually tried most or even some of the available triggers? I'm pretty sure that I haven't. But I have tried (as in dry fired) the triggers of just about all of the latest small wonder compact nines. Also a few others. I actually bought a Hellcat which I have since let go, and a currently have a Shield Plus. I also have a SIG X-Carry Legion and a Canik TP9SFX. All of these are nine MM. Out of everything mentioned above, I think the Canik has the best trigger. Supposedly it is copied after a Walther trigger. I've never handled a Walther. But my point is that I've watched pistol reviews on YT of all of these guns and more and at some point I've heard reviewers say that 'This is the best striker fired trigger out there'. Everyone seems to think that the one they just reviewed has the best trigger. Apparently all of our opinions about what is a good trigger vary wildly. I'm no expert, and we're all entitled to our opinions. But it just seems like almost everybody thinks their gun has the best striker fired trigger.

Now you all can tell me that your gun has the best trigger :D
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I can't tell you that my Walther PPQ M2 has the best striker fired trigger (although many others have said it). I can tell you that when compared to the triggers on my buddies' Glocks, Sigs, M&Ps, Springfields, and FNs, I prefer the Walther (and it isn't even close). I have heard H&K, Cannick, and CZ have very nice triggers as well, but I haven't had the opportunity to try them yet.

I LOVE the trigger on my 70 Series Gold Cup, and the trigger on my High Standard Victor is equally amazing. However, I wouldn't want either trigger on a duty/self defense gun like the Walther. Apples and engine blocks...
 
I don't claim to have shot every striker-fired pistol, or even a statistically-significant number of them. The ones that I have shot that come to mind are the Shield Plus, 9mm Shield 1.0, Shield 2.0 (PC, .45), Glock 19, XDS .45, Glock 43, Glock 48. I've also shot a few 1911s. IMHO, the 1911s had the best triggers hands down, but they're not striker fired. Of the striker-fired ones, I liked the Shield Plus the best. The Glocks were pretty much all the same to me. I thought the 1.0 and 2.0 Shields were pretty good, until I shot one of them side by side with the Plus. Now they seem mushier than I had at first thought.
 
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