CZ 527 has never ejected 22 hornet cases

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Had this CZ a long time, about 18 years, I guess. and it has never ejected
cases very well.- CZ 527 American
It shoots fantastic and use it for fox and turkey, but I just put up with the
problem all these years. When I first got it there was a medical problem
with my wife and it took a long time to get her past it, she is very well now.
I assume the warranty ran out before I got around to shooting it much.
Back then it just took one shot anyhow, but time has made me a bit shaky.
So, I was wondering if it is an ongoing problem with this caliber anyone else
has had or if this is a need to replace the ejector and spring, or even the mag?
The ejector spring feels strong, but the cases fall right back in front of the bolt.
I can get the parts from Numrich but if it is a factory defect I would be
chasing a no can do problem, because of what the magazine looks like,
it is to short in the first place, even in reloading lots of bullets are way to
long for it. Almost like the magazine is made for a couple of calibers and
the - lifter - I guess you call it, seems to long and makes the cartridges
to far forward.
Does anyone out there have this problem?
Sorry for the long explanation.
 
First off... glad to know your wife is doing well now.

Questions...

1) Did you buy your 527 new or used?
2) has it always had this problem?
3) Has it become progressively worse or about the same over the years?
4) Do you normally use the magazine or single load from the top?
5) If you single load do you use a sled, lay the round on the top of the mag, or simply insert the round into the chamber and slam the bolt forward?

If the ejector spring is strong enough to move the ejector all the way under the rim of the cartridge, it should eject... unless the extractor claw is chipped or otherwise out of alignment.
 
Had this CZ a long time, about 18 years, I guess. and it has never ejected
cases very well.- CZ 527 American
It shoots fantastic and use it for fox and turkey, but I just put up with the
problem all these years. When I first got it there was a medical problem
with my wife and it took a long time to get her past it, she is very well now.
I assume the warranty ran out before I got around to shooting it much.
Back then it just took one shot anyhow, but time has made me a bit shaky.
So, I was wondering if it is an ongoing problem with this caliber anyone else
has had or if this is a need to replace the ejector and spring, or even the mag?
The ejector spring feels strong, but the cases fall right back in front of the bolt.
I can get the parts from Numrich but if it is a factory defect I would be
chasing a no can do problem, because of what the magazine looks like,
it is to short in the first place, even in reloading lots of bullets are way to
long for it. Almost like the magazine is made for a couple of calibers and
the - lifter - I guess you call it, seems to long and makes the cartridges
to far forward.
Does anyone out there have this problem?
Sorry for the long explanation.
The extractor? As far as I know the 527s are blade ejectors, and as long as it spring pushes it out enough to hit the case it SHOULD eject.....or try to.
If it's dropping the round in race way, I'd look at the extractors tension. See if it holds the case securely when out of the rifle, if not, there's your issue.
 
Also the 527 hornet mags are specific to the hornet family I believe. It SHOULD have a filler atnthe back limiting how much room there is up front. And yeah hornets use fairly short light bullets.
 
First off... glad to know your wife is doing well now.

Questions...

1) Did you buy your 527 new or used?
2) has it always had this problem?
3) Has it become progressively worse or about the same over the years?
4) Do you normally use the magazine or single load from the top?
5) If you single load do you use a sled, lay the round on the top of the mag, or simply insert the round into the chamber and slam the bolt forward?

If the ejector spring is strong enough to move the ejector all the way under the rim of the cartridge, it should eject... unless the extractor claw is chipped or otherwise out of alignment.
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New 2004, and yes it has always done it but seems worse, maybe because I just got
tired of it and shoot it just to aggravate myself, but it still flips a summersault and lands in front
of the action about 50% of the time.
I use the magazine about 95% of the time without it pressed against anything.
I zero off the lead sled then use sandbags to confirm the sled is truthful.
The ejector is strong enough and not chipped. I haven't checked alignment but
will now.
A note= it hasn't been shot over 100 times total. I have tried running the bolt quickly
but, same results.
Thanks for the concern.
 
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Also the 527 hornet mags are specific to the hornet family I believe. It SHOULD have a filler atnthe back limiting how much room there is up front. And yeah hornets use fairly short light bullets.
Yea. tell me about it.
This CZ Hornet won't let me use several bullets to reload in it, they are too long, right out
of the book. The only 2 I have that fit are the 35grain v-max and the 45gr HP/Bee everything
else is to long for the magazine.
That's another reason I haven't shot it much.
 
Two things-
1) Check the extractor. If the extractor doesn't hold the case firmly against the bolt face, the ejector cannot do its job
2) If the rifle has a fixed ejector, the bolt must be worked vigorously. If worked slowly, the case will just dribble of the bolt and fall in the action
 
Two things-
1) Check the extractor. If the extractor doesn't hold the case firmly against the bolt face, the ejector cannot do its job
2) If the rifle has a fixed ejector, the bolt must be worked vigorously. If worked slowly, the case will just dribble of the bolt and fall in the action

^^^ This

Since the 527 is a controlled feed design (like any Mauser) the extractor claw should be fairly stiff. If it springs too much or really at all, it can effect ejection. Here's a video that shows how to disassemble and reassemble the bolt. You can ignore the rest of the video for your purposes. The important part is making sure the bolt is assembled correctly. The extractor may be defective, or never been assembled right from the factory.

 
Thanks for the info so far, I will check the obvious ideas at first light.
If it needs parts replaced, I can do them myself but the way my luck goes, it is never the obvious.
I am not sure about a previous observation I am probably wrong about this, but it appears
the ejector releases the case a bit too far back. And this is where I can't even find the correct
word to describe what part it is.
It is the farthest distance the bolt travels back to eject the spent cartridge and start the bolt
forward to reload another round, at this point the inside top of the receiver is where the spent case
strikes and begins to flip over.
Sorry for a lack of schematic terms.
 
You're welcome so far...

I get what you're describing. "Ejector" is the right term for the blade-like part that slips into a groove on the opposite side of the bolt face to the extractor claw. It moves in under the cartridge rim as you pull the bolt back.

It's possible that the ejector is too short and thus fails to push the spent cartridge out before the bolt is too far back. It's also possible that there is some defect like a spur or blockage that is preventing the Ejector from moving all the way into the slot on the bolt.

The spring that moves the ejector into the slot is under very light tension, but it's possible yours is too light.

The ejection system works flawlessly on my 7.62x39 527. Even if pulling the bolt back slowly. Spent cartridges fly pretty far (almost too far).

I'm certain your problem is fixable, even if it takes a replacement part or two.

I couldn't find a video with a close-up view of the 527 in particular, but I found several others showing rifles with the Mauser-type controlled feed and ejection system where you can see the parts and how they work. The 527 is a Micro Mauser design, but it works the same as any controlled feed Mauser design.

Here's a great animated video showing how a classic Mauser, the German Karabiner 98k functions. Pay especially close attention to the demonstration of the ejection process from about 1:52 to 2:15.

Hope that helps.

 
If your gun sat for a long period, it might have surface rust in the chamber. Examine a piece of fired brass, if any frosted look anywhere on the brass, run a bronze brush in the chamber on a slow drill with some solvent

Bullets; the regular Hornet twist 1-16 does not do heavy bullets, 40 RN (the Hornet bullet) and 35 JHP pretty much it. My Hornet loves the 35 Bergers and 4227.
 
I broke down and took it to the local gunsmith for a look and -BECK- seems to have the same thought he did.
He said the ejector is way to light and is just not enough spring left in it or probably never did.
I could easily replace it myself but since he took time out to look at it, he will be replacing it and I told him
to replace anything else he could come up with since her had the bolt out.
He can do it in no time compared to my efforts.
Thanks guys and I hope this fixes it.
 
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