Need 223 recipe

My axis has 1 IN 9 twist. So i run 55 grain bullets. If i want play rounds. I load it with red or green dot 7-9 grains. When i want to crank it up. Varget 24 grains. CCI small rifle.

The chart says your will shoot the best from 69gr and up!! Hope this helps

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Every barrel is different, but in general:
Powder: Hard to go wrong w/Varget (if you can find any.) I've done a little with TAC and Reloder 15 as well.
Primers: I've used a lot of Remington 7 1/2's, but I'm not talented enough to see/shoot the difference w/other primers.
I typically used 69 SMK's and 75 Hornady BTHP Match. (8 twist in one rifle, 9 in the other)

What powder/primer do you have to work with right now?

There are so many different powders suitable for loading .223. It would help if you could narrow down your potential choices.
I've had excellent results using Varget, 4895, 4320, 6064 and CFE 223.

Somewhere in the neighborhood of 23.5 grains of tac should be good and I also like n135. It's more expensive but works well and generally sits on the shelf after the cheaper stuff is gone.

I use RL15 on Hornady's 75gr. BTHP.

Revilo said:

Any recommendations on
A. Primer
B. Powder

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CCI #450 and CFE223.
When only the best will do, but you can’t find that and need something similar.
I can’t ever find any Varget…

75 ELDX in Lapua brass, stuffed full of CFE223, on a #450, .001” neck tension sitting .005” off the lands.

Awesome sauce.

www.hodgdon.com - click on reloading data center.

CoalCrackerAl said:

My axis has 1 IN 9 twist. So i run 55 grain bullets. If i want play rounds. I load it with red or green dot 7-9 grains. When i want to crank it up. Varget 24 grains. CCI small rifle.

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Varget is pretty much my go to powder for .223 and .308 accuracy loads. I did this today with an AR15, Varget, CCI 400s, 69 gr HPBTs and crappy once fired FC brass. I can't complain. There may be a better powder but I'm not real inclined to look for it when I have... a lot of Varget on hand.

I run 24 gr of R 15 in Nosler (Norma) brass, Fed SRmatch primer with the Hornady 75 ELD-M. My COL is set and tested for my load/rifle, so it will be useless to you, but it is in the ballpark of Hornady data for your bullet. DO NOT LOAD THIS BULLET TO 2.26 AR magazine length. I don't have any benchrest targets with pretty groups, but I do have a couple of 600 yard cleans with 10 or more Xs. This load shoots through a RRA NM AR with a 1:8 barrel, it should do well in yours. On a good wind day, it's boring to punch 10s at 600 yards prone. On a bad wind day, I feel it performs better than the various 80gr HPBTs out there.

If you do not have R15, I would consider Varget, H or I 4895, I 4064 to be strong possibilities. Some of the ball powders might get you there such as BL-C2, CFE223, W748, or even H335.

I have good loads using IMR 4064, H335, and CFE 223 using a varied combination of 77 grain Sierra Match Kings, 75 grain Hornady HPBT, 52 grain Barnes Match Burners (that one took real work), and 55 grain Hornady FMJBT. I’m working on a load with TAC right now using 55 grain Hornady soft points. I use TAC with the FMJBT for blammo now as it’s more accurate than H335 with the same bullet. I do have separate loads for separate rifles. I’ve used CCI BR4, Winchester WSR, and CCI 400 primers and this batch with TAC will get Federal AR Match SRPs. All will shoot 1 MOA or less with the match bullets, but not so much with the FMJ. Given your rifle you may expect and get better accuracy than that though.

I’ll reiterate what was said above.
DO NOT LOAD THE 75 GRAIN ELD TO 2.260. I’m just repeating what Hornady told me.

DMW1116 said:

DO NOT LOAD THE 75 GRAIN ELD TO 2.260. I’m just repeating what Hornady told me.

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The ogive on the ELD is too long to seat that deeply. It will leave a gap at the mouth of the case between it and the bullet. This will cause feeding problems in auto loaders, decreased bullet release tension, and makes your ammunition look silly.

I measure CBTO, so I estimate my COAL to be around 2.50” for a 75 ELD. Much too long for a magazine.

For bottom feeders, I prefer the 75 BTHP. It is as if it were made for a AR, because it is!

Revilo said:

Has 1:7 twist

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Don’t get too wrapped up in that. All mine are sevens and shoot 50-88 grains well. So if you find a deal on lighter VMaxs don’t be too concerned about the weight. They will shoot great too.
Like a 50grain VMax at magazine length, in a Hornady case with 23.5 grains of TAC, on a CCI#400 SRP. Another great one!

The flat based 60 grain VMax is extraordinarily accurate at closer ranges.

What’s a good load for .233? All of them!

I forgot about the twist issue. Both my barrels are 1/7 twist and shoot 52-55 grain and 75-77 grain well. I did have trouble with 68 grain bullets but I hope that was just the one brand. I have some 69 grain bullets to try.

It's hard to beat the 77SMK for easy load development.
My load is using IMR4064. But I recommend trying H4895 or 8208XBR. My rifle liked them. But 4064 edged then out by shooting the same in my AR as my bolt gun.

Bfh_auto said:

It's hard to beat the 77SMK for easy load development.
My load is using IMR4064. But I recommend trying H4895 or 8208XBR. My rifle liked them. But 4064 edged then out by shooting the same in my AR as my bolt gun.

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The gold standard used to be the 69 smk. If a gun didn't shoot that it was time for a new barrel. I hear the rmr bullet is close, still haven't shot one.

I'm sorry but I have never loaded a bullet above 62gr. My normal load is a 55gr bullet over 25.0gr H335 with a CCI #41, Rem 7 1/2 or a CCI-400 primer in a bolt action rifle. I have used Target for an extremely accurate round used in my Howa 1500 bolt action .223 rifle.

There are many good powder for use in the .223. They include Accurate 2230, Ramshot TAC (which works well with heavier bullets like the ones you want to use), Hodgdon CFE223, H322, W748, Alliant AR- Comp, Reloader 10X, Power Pro 1200-R and probably a few more I missed.

I suggest H335, CFE223, H322 or TAC, IMO of course.

AJC1 said:

The gold standard used to be the 69 smk. If a gun didn't shoot that it was time for a new barrel. I hear the rmr bullet is close, still haven't shot one.

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Never used the 69. Jumped from 55 to 77. If it's like their 77. I can believe it.

dcloco said:

www.hodgdon.com - click on reloading data center.

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This, or buy a manual or two, or just do both.

Bfh_auto said:

Never used the 69. Jumped from 55 to 77. If it's like their 77. I can believe it.

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The 77 I believe is a much newer design. I don't remember it as a kid.

I have a pile of RMR 69 grain to try with some Shooters World AR Plus. Hopefully that combo works. I’m in up to my eyeballs if not.

Message to the original poster.

NEVER, NEVER accept data from Joe internet poster!
They may post data that is OUTSIDE published data, by mistake or intentionally.

For your own safety only use data from published sources
like the powder mfg's website or manuals like Lyman, Lee, Hornady plus many others.

Stay safe my friends

Added another probably good recipe. Time will tell. A lower charge of TAC and a 55 grain soft point shot right at 1 MOA from my 16” barrel with 1/7 twist at 100 yards. It’s a flat based soft point so 200 yards is probably the max I’d shoot it anyway. I’m prepping brass to load a few more. Maybe they’ll shoot as good from my 20” barrel and I can squeeze a little more velocity out of them.

I like Varget and VV N140 for 77gn SMKs

DMW1116 said:

I have a pile of RMR 69 grain to try with some Shooters World AR Plus. Hopefully that combo works. I’m in up to my eyeballs if not.

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With those RMR 69gr I find TAC and Benchmark works very well. Will be doing some workup with 2460 soon.