Donald Trump Jr. launches gun rights group, vows to fight Democratic gun control proposals

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I am going to go with political stunt if it’s an A or B multiple choice question.

You remember his “pro 2nd Amendment” Father who said, “Take the guns first. Go through due process second, I like taking the guns early,”

And set the precedent, of making existing products illegal, no grandfathering, no compensation, nothing. All with out new law just another “interpretation” of existing law. It is this “interpretation”, that is the new tool against us. You don’t need to change law, just decide what it means to you, when you are in powder.

At least the Dems don’t lie to us and are forthcoming with their intent to disarm us.

Before I get pounced on, I voted for the guy twice because he was the lesser of two evils. I had no illusions though, when I cast my vote.

If he is successful in a political bit or touts reversing his Fathers decision and other harmful 2nd Amendment infringements, I would be more than happy to change my opinion.

As it happens, I noticed that Trump Sr. lived near me in his early life.* This alerted me to the fact that he was a New Yorker.

I cannot describe to you how entrenched the anti-gun attitude is in most (not all) New York City dwellers.
I did not recognize this until I moved to Colorado in the early 60s, and by introspection started to realize how subtly this attitude negatively affects one's outlook on the subject without one realizing it.

So while I also voted for him twice for other swamp-draining orations, I still expected that "almost genetic" New York (and East Coast) anti-gun attitude to creep into his personal outlook.

I know that New Yorkers on this board will object to my assessment of that "almost-ingrained" NYC anti gun attitude, but I can attest to the fact that when I legally bought my first handgun in Colorado (1965?) I felt like a criminal for a couple of days and was vaguely tempted to close the curtains when I examined the "GU UHN."

No kidding. That's when I discovered that's how deep that anti attitude went, even in myself.

I hope this is not the case with Donald Trump Jr.

Terry, 230RN

*About 1/2 a mile from me in Queens.
 
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While this is something of a diversion, if you get out of the immediate NYC and suburban area, NYS residents can be quite gun friendly. Not as much as TX for instance but certainly, there are stores, hunting, competitions, etc. Some counties are close to shall issue but with a slower time line. It is really the urban, rural split that you see in operation as you do across the entire country.

In the old days, Macy's in Brooklyn had barrels of surplus military rifles in their sporting goods sections. Back to the issue, there were several proposals for gun rights bills early on in the Trump administration that went nowhere. HPA, reciprocity, etc. There was the SAGA act proposed to lift weapons bans. Moscow Mitch wouldn't let them come to the floor of the Senate. The House wouldn't vote on them. I note that they voted on Obama care a zillion times. The basic problems are that the economic elites truly don't believe in firearms rights as an armed peasant class reminds them of women knitting by the guillotines and if you get rid of an issue, you won't get voters out to vote for you.

Bills or Scotus decisions that wipe out gun restrictions turns the NRA membership back into guys in flannel shirts looking for moose and ducks plus some guys shooting at million yards with esoteric long arms. Politicians throw up meat to crowds on social issues but God forbid they get their wish on some of them. Then who would listen to them. Trump and spawn have a mixed and duplicitous record on gun rights.
 
Don't need another organization correlated with one political viewpoint, esp. a set of characters that generate much animosity in many people, even in the classic progun world.

I see this as a reverse Harvey Weinstein. When Harvey was outed as pervert, he announced that he would dedicate his time to destroying the NRA. Not saying that baby Don is a pervert but the idea is that you divert from X to Y when Y is popular. Who needs this? Support the already successful organizations. Support the cure some obscure but horrible disease instead.
This we need a group not affiliated with a party. There is more left leaning gun fans who do not stand the line of their party. Plus center leaning folk who are not into either would love a home as well.
 
As it happens, I noticed that Trump Sr. lived near me in his early life.* This alerted me to the fact that he was a New Yorker.

I cannot describe to you how entrenched the anti-gun attitude is in most (not all) New York City dwellers.
I did not recognize this until I moved to Colorado in the early 60s, and by introspection started to realize how subtly this attitude negatively affects one's outlook on the subject without one realizing it.

*About 1/2 a mile from me in Queens.
I grew up on a small farm outside of Odessa, Texas, in the 1970s/early 80s. It never even occurred to me that there were anti-gun people growing up, or that there was any politics related to gun ownership. We were the proverbial family with a filled gun rack in our Ford pickups my entire young life. There was always a revolver in the glove box for dispatching rattle snakes as the need arose.

I went to college in Waco, Texas, and one day I carried one of my shotguns out to my vehicle and loaded it up to go do some shooting. About 5 minutes after leaving the parking lot of my off-campus apartment I was surrounded by 4 campus police cars. They wanted to know where the heck I was going with a gun. Evidently someone had seen me loading up the shotgun and must have thought I was gonna go shoot up the campus. Other than Charles Starkweather, I don't think I had ever heard of a school shooting or even a threat of it back then.

I miss the culture of West Texas from back then.
 
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This is not good news. Everything Trump touches dies. And with Don Jr., the apple did not fall far from the tree. Better hope it's just a grift that gets no traction, like "Truth Social". The longer it goes on, the more money it will suck out of RKBA pockets to keep the Trump family out of the poorhouse.

BTW, could somebody tell me why this is in General Gun Discussions instead of Activism?
 
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From the article:

"The Second Amendment Task Force plans to build its operation around Trump’s high social media visibility and following, as well as his national media appearances."


^^^ IMHO this is not a good thing...



 
I see this as WAY better than some billionaire creating an anti 2A group. There’s been way too much of that over the past decade or so.

We moan and wail when Bloomberg creates “anti” groups, we moan and wail when Trump creates a “pro” group.

Some part of me thinks we just like drama.

I’ll take this as a positive move.
 
NRA was originally founded for firearm education and training. Campaigning for gun rights (2nd Amendment) and related politicking (NRA-ILA) came later. There are a number of gun rights groups already working, including Second Amendment Foundation, Gun Owners of America, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, and, of course NRA.
I am not sure how DJT, Jr.'s new 2nd Amendment Task Force will add to the efforts already in place.
I do agree that NRA has become toxic in the public culture and divisive politics. I am just not sure this new organization will be a better alternative to the NRA's 2nd Amendment support and related legislative focus.
In the meantime, I hope that NRA's education, training, and competition programs somehow survive the debacle of rampant mismanagement, financial malfeasance, and public ridicule and distrust of the overall organization.
 
It seems to me that in fighting against Soros and Bloomberg with their billions of dollars we need as much support as we can get so I welcome all of the established pro-gun organizations and any new organization(s) that want to join the fight. If certain individuals are anti-NRA (as a Life Member I am until Wayne departs for good) then perhaps they will be encouraged by and support Trump Jr's new organization. I certainly don't see it as a detriment.
 
I think that the NRA needs more competition... .
Sure, but the competition needs to come from an organization that puts gun rights first, not partisan interests first. The core problem with the NRA (apart from its internal corruption) is that it's become an arm of the Republican party. That means that it preaches only to a narrow partisan base, and has no clout outside that group. Any Trump-led group would just compound the problem. And remember, Trump Sr. basically isn't even pro-gun. (Judging from his antigun comments and actions.) The fruit (his son) doesn't fall far from the tree.

Once again, politicians are using gun owners, rather than gun owners using politicians.

As far as Trump, Jr.'s "pro-gun" activism goes, we've seen this movie before. It didn't amount to a hill of beans the first time.
 
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He had his chance when his father and the Republicans where in power. This is just grandstanding and will amount to nothing useful IMHO.
This right here. If they were gun rights supporters they'd have rolled back all the recent EO/EA and agency rulemaking stuff while broadly in power, replacing all sorts of agency heads, removing or ignoring oversight to get other policies passed. I had high hopes for many of these, say 41F. Easy. Probably a phone call vs even a written order and done. But... nothing. A few industry things (e.g. easier to sell suppressors overseas) were done, but they have nothing to do with our individual and domestic rights.

Obama gave me more rights than Trump. Reversed Reagan's locked up order, now I can carry in National Parks, and can travel on Amtrak with guns, which was just banned for years. This is all on the record. If the record is anti-Trump, so be it.
 
I don't mind being used - if it furthers gun rights.
I'm hearing more anti-Trump sentiments on this thread than I am hearing pro-gun sentiments.
Get your priorities straight... .
During his administration he made clear his stand on guns. Take them first the supply a reason after. Anyone who had to cut up a bump stock is reacting from a place of injury. I do not wish to make this political so my comment is removed. But I learn from life. I was only speaking of my experience.
 
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