Learn To De-escalate

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If in a clearly-marked reserved spot and owner makes a fuss…IMMEDIATELY offer to move…and apologize.

In a gated property it is probably clear who is authorized to park where. The unfortunate victim sadly and tragically moved towards the crazy shooter in the bathrobe.

Better would have been a sincere "palms up / my bad" stance and keeping respectful distance.
Hopefully the man makes a complete recovery and the shooter is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
 
Return to the Wild West. Snoring SOB guna die!:confused:


Yea the parking spot guy could have been nicer and moved his truck ASAP. The shooter is living in a twisted reality to go to such an extreme so quickly. I will give him credit for stopping when he did as the wife gets in the middle of the situation while holding her baby. (face palm emoji). This was an ugly situation that could have been way worse.
 
[Good shoot. Not guilty.] Lol. You willingly parked exactly where you knew people would be upset. You won the stupid prize, that you entered the stupid contest for.

Could have parked in the street with your hazards on. Nope.
Could have parked in another spot. Nope.
Could have parked right smack in the middle of the giant empty lot. Nope.
Could have just moved when asked to. Nope.
Could have not parked at all, and just dropped your friend off like you were supposed to.

Americans think that parking is some sort of competition. There could be an entire empty lot to park in. But they'll block the loading dock, generator, dumpster, or HVAC systems, to get 5 feet closer to the buildings......because they're SPECIAL. And this makes them feel ever more SPECIAL. I deal with it every day. Don't take my parking spot.
 
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There are people in the world that are crazy/evil/stupid or just destined for failure as a human being. It’s not cowardly to AVOID these people if at all possible. Their unconscious desire is to drag you down into their world of destruction, despair and death.
Of course there are cases when one can’t avoid failed humans, (LE officers face this on a regular basis) but the less opportunity you give them, the better your life will be.
 
No matter how rude Americans are with their entitled parking habits, the shooter will have to prove his life was in danger from the unarmed smaller guy slowly walking his way. The shooter did not need to be there. He did his part to escalate the situation. How long was his spot taken while the police investigated?

IMO, this was a Wild West style/ gangster shooting. The shooter went to an extreme when he did not have to.

There are people in the world that are crazy/evil/stupid or just destined for failure as a human being. It’s not cowardly to AVOID these people if at all possible. Their unconscious desire is to drag you down into their world of destruction, despair and death.
Of course there are cases when one can’t avoid failed humans, (LE officers face this on a regular basis) but the less opportunity you give them, the better your life will be.

Well put.
 
Good old verbal judo. And there are people out here who don’t care if they live or die. Pick and choose ones battles wisely. Could be your last!
 
I can bring to mind at least three shooting incidents locally (a couple with loss of life) in the past couple years over parking lot confrontations ... "... You got know when to walk away, know when to run..."

What a lot of folks out there still don't comprehend is that there is a sub-culture of morons out there who are looking to provoke confrontations over stuff such as this. Road rage also is now epidemic in this country. Social media delights in depicting tawdry video of violence over juvenile stupidity.

And yes, we do have a lot of folks that don't understand the white lines in parking lots and can't be troubled to read the signage...

But someone has to be the grown-up, Last fall, I backed down from a drunken moron -- who wanted to fight me! -- over a parking issue at a college football game (he thought, apparently based on my facial expression, that I'd ridiculed his wife's poor attempt at parking his F-250 that he was drunk to drive); my two young sons in law and two nephews asked why I didn't stand up to him, all I could say was, it's simply not worth it and I got nothing to prove. I didn't want anyone getting hurt because of someone's big ego

Good old verbal judo.
"Tactical verbal skills" is the new vernacular. Sounds way more cool...
 
The shooter truly snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. He has really jammed himself up, bigtime.
He could have snapped pic from the comfort of his bedroom and had a parking violation assessed to neighbor.
 
Dont know all the details of this one other than what the video shows. ...
I would like to know the details of any prior encounters.

The way the victim, who appears to be a strong/solid individual, is slowly decreasing the distance makes me wonder if he is one who has learned to depend upon physical intimidation to prevail.
 
I would like to know the details of any prior encounters.

The way the victim, who appears to be a strong/solid individual, is slowly decreasing the distance makes me wonder if he is one who has learned to depend upon physical intimidation to prevail.

Yeah, it makes me wonder that too.

Watching the body language of the shooting victim, well ... he's gesturing in what seems a confrontational manner, and then approaches the shooter as the guy in the red shirt moves forward too on a vector towards the shooter's left. If you ignoring the commentary saying "he moves towards his wife and child" and look at what's actually going on, the reality is somewhat different.

So from my perspective, and not knowing what's being said or the history, it appears the shooter is being advanced upon and also possibly flanked, by what appear to be two large and muscular guys.

I'm not saying it was a good shoot. Just that it doesn't strike me as a clear case of someone being gunned down for no good reason. The driver of the truck is obviously not reading himself to leave, and the shooting victim seems to be escalating the situation.
 
I can bring to mind at least three shooting incidents locally (a couple with loss of life) in the past couple years over parking lot confrontations ... "... You got know when to walk away, know when to run..."

What a lot of folks out there still don't comprehend is that there is a sub-culture of morons out there who are looking to provoke confrontations over stuff such as this. Road rage also is now epidemic in this country. Social media delights in depicting tawdry video of violence over juvenile stupidity.

And yes, we do have a lot of folks that don't understand the white lines in parking lots and can't be troubled to read the signage...

But someone has to be the grown-up, Last fall, I backed down from a drunken moron -- who wanted to fight me! -- over a parking issue at a college football game (he thought, apparently based on my facial expression, that I'd ridiculed his wife's poor attempt at parking his F-250 that he was drunk to drive); my two young sons in law and two nephews asked why I didn't stand up to him, all I could say was, it's simply not worth it and I got nothing to prove. I didn't want anyone getting hurt because of someone's big ego

"Tactical verbal skills" is the new vernacular. Sounds way more cool...

I absolutely hate the word tactical. It’s a mall ninja term to me. Way to over used in our community. Just my opinion for what it’s worth. Watched a video on YouTube about descalating a situation. Drink guy talking smack. Both guys went outside to settle it. One walked away one did not. The one who walked did 15 years for manslaughter. Flipped the drunk over his shoulder landed wrong broke his neck. I have nothing to prove to anyone. Better to walk away.
 
I absolutely hate the word tactical. It’s a mall ninja term to me. Way to over used in our community.
Although I was being facetious saying it sounds "more cool," I don't consider it a mall ninja term. In my community it's a valid term to indicate that we need to be situationally aware, thinking, process information and planning ahead.

When employed correctly, "tactical" is a useful word, particularly in a training environment. I'd agree that it's an over-used term (how are a pair of pants "tactical?").

I'm all about de-escalating. Over the course of my career, I eventually figured out two things: being able to de-escalate (1) helped me avoid further injuries and (2) saved me countless hours over the years from unnecessary paperwork. Back in the day, over beers, we thought we hadn't had a good shift unless we'd been involved in at least one physical take-down. Finally, getting older and wiser, I learned that talking someone down was far better than the alternatives.
 
Back in the day, over beers, we thought we hadn't had a good shift unless we'd been involved in at least one physical take-down. Finally, getting older and wiser, I learned that talking someone down was far better than the alternatives.

Isn’t that the truth. Life got a lot easier when I figured out it was easier to talk then to fight….
 
My way of de-escalting any situation is simply to think " is this jerk worth going to prison for". There are times that in my heart and soul I just would love getting instant gratification by knocking some teeth and sense but I realize that it is a selfish emotion and as much as I would want to engage I just repeat to myself "is this jerk worth going to prison for". The fear of dying is not what makes me walk away but the fear of living behind bars does.
 
I would not have approached that CRAZY POS.

And yes,I do believe they all knew that POS was a wacko.

But getting shot in my mind requires that POS to go to PRISON.

And an order of protection issued to be sure that POS has no right to be near any of the victim or his family.
 
The office for my business was formerly located in a pretty congested Chicago suburb where parking was a problem. We had reserved parking in which people constantly parked, ignoring the signs informing them those spots were reserved for building tenants. When I saw someone parking there I never told them they can't park there. I approached them in a friendly manner to let them know the towing company the building contracts with frequently tows cars from there and I didn't want to see them get towed. I never had a problem and was usually thanked as they viewed me as helping them, a much better outcome than arguing with people. There's a saying that the best fight is the one you avoid, or something along those lines. A little tact serves people well.
 
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The quickest way I've ever seen to deescalate a situation is to simply admit fault (whether you did it or not) and apologize.

In another life when I used to go to bars I've bought absolute ASSES a beer (and got the hell out of Dodge while they were drinking it).
 
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