Does this look factory new to you?

Riomouse911 · May 17, 2022

I just won a S&W 617 10-shot 6” .22 LR on GB, it got to my FFL this weekend. Gun seller wrote it was “Factory New” on the details page.

My FFL’s are good guys who will check out guns I buy and give them a quick glance to check for issues before I make the drive over to fill out the 4473 and start the 10-day waiting period. (They started this for me after we all missed a slight bulge in a Model 14-3 barrel

.)

I get a call today that the “Factory New” 617 cylinder wont open, the sideplate screws looked buggered and it just looks “fingered over” compared to the new guns they sell. The cylinder ultimately opened when the ejector rod was held and the cylinder spun enough to allow it to open, when opened the rod was loose enough to turn by hand.

I left a phone message for the seller, I haven’t had a call back. (I will say the seller listed another 6” 617 with the same pics used for this one. That’s not too comforting.

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Do these side plate screws look “Factory New” to you?

Stay safe.

gobsauce · May 17, 2022

The one on the bottom left is absolutely, most definitely, positively buggered up.

Bayou52 · May 17, 2022

Concur.

NIGHTLORD40K · May 17, 2022

Hard to say without seeing the overall condition of the gun.
By itself, that wouldn't surprise me coming out S&W these days at all.

Speedo66 · May 17, 2022

The side plate itself has finish markings in two directions, is that standard factory?

AlexanderA · May 17, 2022

Definitely not "factory new."

Those turn marks on the cylinder are a worse blemish than the buggered screws, which can be fixed.

ontarget · May 17, 2022

No way it hasn't been messed with.
IMHO there is nothing about that pic that looks "factory new".
Not just the screws and finish, but it looks like someone tried to polish off a turn line using a Scotch Brite pad.
I would not be happy about all that since the seller seems to have misrepresented the gun.

AK Hunter · May 17, 2022

The wear on the trigger would tell me it's not a factory new gun. It had a lot of handling even if it hasn't been fired.

wcwhitey · May 17, 2022

.455_Hunter · May 17, 2022

Used.

WrongHanded · May 17, 2022

Nothing I see there looks as I would expect from the factory. How does the front cylinder face look?

The Glockodile · May 17, 2022

No good.

Mizar · May 17, 2022

Forget about the screw - that can happen with a single twist from a poor fitting screwdriver, look at the cylinder notches... This revolver was shot, and it was shot quite a lot.

film495 · May 17, 2022

had an issue like that once, not gunbroker, but I just rejected the inspection outright at my FFL and said send it back where it came from, cut my losses..

exbrit49 · May 17, 2022

Definitely USED. ( Quite a lot by the looks of it! )

CodeSection · May 17, 2022

Looks used. Can you provide the GB link so we can see all the pictures on the listing?

stonebuster · May 17, 2022

I've seen other guns on Gunbroker like this advertised as LNIB that were far from new condition. Worse yet, this one was advertised "factory new". Sorry you've got to deal with it.

Pat Riot · May 17, 2022

That’s a bummer. Whoever listed that is a crook.

bihj · May 17, 2022

Not new

starnbar · May 17, 2022

That side plate looks like it has been off a few times and they sure did not use hollow ground screw drivers.

beag_nut · May 17, 2022

Just one of several reasons I will not ever purchase a used firearm. Donate it to me, OK. But no money exchanged, ever.
Don't get me started about buying online. If they are not crooks, they are at least incompetent.

doubleh · May 17, 2022

I haven't seen a new Smith revolver in quite sometime but that looks pretty scruffy to be new even with today's workforce. I would say someone is lying through their teeth about the "Factory New".

AlexanderA · May 17, 2022

beag_nut said:
Just one of several reasons I will not ever purchase a used firearm.

All military surplus firearms are "used." Well, almost all of them, anyway. If a military arms collector insisted on "new," he wouldn't have a collection.

gobsauce · May 17, 2022

AlexanderA said:
All military surplus firearms are "used." Well, almost all of them, anyway. If a military arms collector insisted on "new," he wouldn't have a collection.

This made me think about mosins... I think I've seen more "new" mosins than used ones .

.38 Special · May 17, 2022

That gun has some real use on it.

Does this look factory new to you?

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