Are All Current Rugers Garbage?

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I have nearly 2 dozen Rugers. From compacts to full size. And a couple of their rifles and revolvers. I bought both the full size and compact of the American pistol in 9mm. Nice triggers and easy to strip down for cleaning. I never understood the knock they were getting. I would like to get the RAP in 45 auto.

I have a handful of other brands. And they're okay.

I sent out my first Ruger for repair yesterday. Extractor binds.
 
The bottom line is that I’ve personally seen no drop in quality.
Specifically regarding the Mark pistol series, the issue is not one of quality but rather of changes in design. As you point out, each generation has had some improvements in design, coupled with some design failures. Fortunately the design failures can be rectified by the user.
The Mark IV .... has a milled aluminum lower frame versus the stamped steel frame of the previous generations.
One side effect of milling the frame is that the corners of the trigger opening are rounded rather than square. This interferes with certain aftermarket triggers, such as the Clark. But it's easily rectified with a small, square needle file.
 
Not overly impressed with my LC9. The finish stinks. Already has rust on it. It’s a year or two old. While it’s brother lcpII is in perfect shape despite me being fat sweating a lot and pocket caring it.
 
Not having read the whole thread, just the OP and a few comments after, I'll just say that I love my MkIV, never shot any other Mk's so no experience which is better. Mine is awesome. I have 7 Blackhawks, 4 are OM's, that I prize over all other's, especially the 45 and 41. The NM 44 Flattop is a meh, take it or leave it, but the 45Colt Flattop is by far a winner. My wife's SR22 is nothing but trouble for her, works fine for me most of the time. My SR1911 9mm is also awesome, accurate and trouble free. I changed the recoil spring to a 12 lber and good to go. I had a SR1911 45acp and it wasn't the greatest, maybe just didn't get broke in yet, so when a friend's friend wanted it more than I did, off it went. Garbage, No, not by a long shot.
 
Modern Rugers are not any different from everything else made these days, cars, trucks, refrigerators, TVs, all are junk. And new houses!! modern homes are the biggest crap shoot of all yet folks line up and bend over to get them.I find it humorous that people complain about prices of goods yet demand perfection in all things. It just isn't going to happen....
 
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My LCP Max is a good running little pistol
Only Ruger Semi I own

Up until today I only had one Ruger semi-auto (SR9c), that has been really great. I picked up an LCP Max and overall I'm pretty satisfied with my decision to get it. Quality in terms of fit and finish are very good as are the sights (I really like the "U" shaped opening of the rear sight as it just seems to naturally line up with the dot front sight). Ergonomics are also decent for such a small sub-s]compact pistol which uses 10/12 round magazines. The trigger is heavy and a bit rough but I'm hoping it smooths up a bit with use.

One thing that bothers me though is that it came with only one magazine. C'mon Ruger, I don't think it's going to cut into your corporate profits all that much if you include a spare mag with all of your semi-auto pistols.
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As far as semi-autos go, I was really impressed with Rugers SR and LC (original LCP, LC9 etc) pistol lines. The current ones are cheaper to produce and feel it too.
 
I shot my buddy’s Mk. IV Ultra Light yesterday back to back with my Mk. II Target model.

i like the drop-free mags and thumb button release of the IV, but everything else, I prefer my old II.

The IV was a good shooter, despite being too light and having too short of a sight radius to really compete with my II in accuracy.

I bought a 10/22 probably 25 years ago based on its reputation. It was a junk gun. Wasn’t very accurate and needed two trips back to Ruger for it to feed reliably.

I got my uncle’s old Marlin 60, and I much prefer it to the 10/22.

I had a P90 that was great, but that’s not modern any more.

I have a great 77/22 (LR) but that’s an 80s gun and not modern either.
 
I have neve fired any Ruger product that didn't work just like it was supposed to, but I haven't messed w/ a MK3 or 4. Mainly, because I don't need to. I own a standard model (born in 77, totally stock) and I fired the mk2 some (US gov't property). I used to own a P85 (because I couldn't afford a Sig 226 at the time). I also have a 10-22 (bought in 88, added a scope and base) and a RAR in 6.5 CM (.5 MOA rifle some days). Mrs Fl-NC carries a LCP, and dad has a SR9C. No complaints about any of them.
 
Like most things, a bit of research before you plunk down your money, is a smart thing to do. If someone is buying 3-4 things that are "junk", then, they are not doing their homework.
 
I wouldn't say garbage but I've come to expect nearly any Ruger, revolver especially, to have some tool marks on the thing somewhere. Most of it is surface level cosmetics that can be remedied with scotch brite pads, sometimes they're too deep and will always be there. As much as I like Ruger products, they really need to up their quality control game, big time.
 
Inflammatory title I realize, but let me qualify the question. Having read yet another “I don’t want a Mk IV” thread I felt this sort of discussion was High Road worthy.

What I think I know from reading threads is that the Mk II is the pinnacle of perfection (unless a Mk I owner shows up to respond), the Mk III is abysmal due to a few removable parts, and the Mk IV is targeted at a group known as the “illiterati” who are too stupid to follow disassembly instructions that Mk II owners were seemingly born knowing.

I also “know” that despite better quality processes and control, new machinery, and a host of aftermarket support (which is often inquired about) that later Mark pistols need these things while the I and II are perfection from the box (even as the owners describe the VQ goodies they’ve stuffed inside).

I know that a nearly invisible hinge makes the IV ugly, that it may wear out as a result of being hinged, and that “many people” favor the Mark II. Now anyone perusing the rifles section is also painfully aware of all those 10/22s with metal trigger guards that 1-hole any dime size 50 yard target and are versed in how much better a Series xyz Mini-14 is than today’s pot metal excuse.

So I ask again, is Ruger simply producing cheapened, over priced, ugly, poorly shooting garbage these days or are the straw man arguments mere justification for the insecure? I’d hate to think that my money is foolishly spent or that despite outstanding tolerances and process investment that every last one of my 7 recently purchased Ruger rifles/pistols is in all ways inferior.

Yes, and the down hill slide started 20 years ago.
 
If anyone has tried to purchase a Vaquero, PCC, M77, or Ruger No 1 lately notice the scarce supply and high prices.

i infer two things from this. First, Ruger prioritizes product by cost to produce and sales demand, surprise! Pocket pistols, .22 pistols, and Ruger Americans sell like hotcakes. Second, the product that is nearly unsourcable at the moment is selling quickly when available.

Both facts support that Ruger is one of the largest if not largest American gun mfg and if their quality or warranty was that bad they would not continue in that role w repeat business. I just purchased a gun out of production and factory support because they are nearly indestructible.
 
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