Which M1A?

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Okay I've been going back and forth on these for a looooong time.

I need to acquire an M1A. I know it's not the absolute best semi 308 on the market but I like them anyway.

Is the Fulton armory variety worth the extra money or should I look to a Springfield and upgrade?

Thoughts and opinions are welcome.

Thank you
 
Have a SAI mid-2000s production, standard rifle w/22" barrel. Have at least a thousand rounds through it, probably close to 2k. Never had any problems with it. From what I understand, back then they used more USGI parts in conjunction with their investment-cast receivers. These days they are using pretty much all new production parts, with varying levels of durability.

Haven't kept up on my research for several years but last I checked, LRB was regarded as making the "best" semiauto M14 pattern rifles. I don't know where Fulton Armory's offerings rank.

For my usage and budget, the SAI rifle has been just fine. Never had a malfunction.
 
I had the Springfield Loaded model with the stainless heavy barrel, polymer stock, 2 stage trigger and National Match Sights.

Positives- very accurate, good target trigger, stock seemed sturdy and well-bedded. Cool looking and weather resistant. POA never seemed to change due to temp or humidity whch is a known issue on the wood-stocked guns. Mine fed perfectly every ammunition I tried, but seemed to like Norma 168gr. Match best.

Negatives- the NM front post is a little too thick for the tiny rear aperture. Forget tracking any sort of moving target with these sights, they are for the bench only. The SA steel scope mount is pricey, and I had to Loc-Tite the crap out of it because it kept loosening up. The gas cylinder liked to wiggle loose regularly as well.
The heavyweight stainless barrel is HEAVY....leaving the gun pretty unbalanced and nose-heavy if you are firing offhand. Once again, best for the bench and little else. It is also loooong....forget getting in and out of a vehicle with one easily, if thats your thing. Id hate to hump this model through the bush for sure.
The Springfield 2-stage trigger reminded me of a Shmidt-Rubin trigger.The stages are very pronounced and not conducive to quick follow-up shots. Yes, once again, best for target work, not a firefight.....but not really great for sniper/overwatch either, IMO.

I sold it and got a POF AR10, which is a much better all-round fighting gun, but the Loaded was a decent specialized benchrest high-power rifle and I would have kept it around if money and storage space were of no concern.

If I get another, it'll probably be a Fulton Scout. The SA SOCOM16 is tempting, but Gawd they are LOUD!
 
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I had the Springfield Loaded model with the stainless heavy barrel, polymer stock, 2 stage trigger and National Match Sights.

Positives- very accurate, good target trigger, stock seemed sturdy and well-bedded. Cool looking and weather resistant. POA never seemed to change due to temp or humidity whch is a known issue on the wood-stocked guns. Mine fed perfectly every ammunition I tried, but seemed to like Norma 168gr. Match best.

Negatives- the NM front post is a little too thick for the tiny rear aperture. Forget tracking any sort of moving target with these sights, they are for the bench only. The SA steel scope mount is pricey, and I had to Loc-Tite the crap out of it because it kept loosening up. The gas cylinder liked to wiggle loose regularly as well.
The heavyweight stainless barrel is HEAVY....leaving the gun pretty unbalanced and nose-heavy if you are firing offhand. Once again, best for the bench and little else. It is also loooong....forget getting in and out of a vehicle with one easily, if thats your thing. Id hate to hump this model through the bush for sure.
The Springfield 2-stage trigger reminded me of a Shmidt-Rubin trigger.The stages are very pronounced and not conducive to quick follow-up shots. Yes, once again, best for target work, not a firefight.....but not really great for sniper/overwatch either, IMO.

I sold it and got a POF AR10, which is a much better all-round fighting gun, but the Loaded was a decent specialized benchrest high-power rifle and I would have kept it around if money and storage space were of no concern.

If I get another. It'll probably be a Fulton Scout. The SA SOCOM16 is tempting, but Gawd they are LOUD!
Excellent details thank you.

Yeah Fulton's 18" barrel in one of the fancy chassis is what I'm really debating
 
Very accurate, Great iron sights.

This is the greatest strength of the platform, IMO. Probably the best iron sights on any 7.62 caliber autoloading rifle. If you dig iron sights, the M1A is a rifle you will love. If you prefer modern optics like red dots, prism or reflex sights, LVPOs, etc. then the AR-10 is probably better suited for your tastes.
 
This is the greatest strength of the platform, IMO. Probably the best iron sights on any 7.62 caliber autoloading rifle. If you dig iron sights, the M1A is a rifle you will love. If you prefer modern optics like red dots, prism or reflex sights, LVPOs, etc. then the AR-10 is probably better suited for your tastes.
I am really impressed with the effectiveness of my M1 Garand's sights so I think I'll like the M1A's.

I do plan on a red dot or lpvo for this one though.
Kind of a DMR concept
 
The only M1A/M14 I ever owned was an LRB Arms M14SA. I added a NM front sight, and a Turner Saddlery shooting sling. I spent many hours lying in the dirt shooting that rifle when I was in my 20s, and had a great time with it. Zero complaints other than the price.

And though I'm not a particularly good rifle shooter and never have been, I was rather pleased with the results I got from shooting a full 20 round mag at 300m from prone with the sling. This was the only time I ever bothered shooting it past 200m, and did it primarily to see how accurate the sight adjustments was. The group was 12" tall, 9" wide, as a nice oval centered on the target - which was nothing but a white square to my eyes at that distance. I believe the ammo was American Eagle's M1A specific ammo.

The only big mistake I made during my time shooting this rifle, was wearing shorts whilst lying prone for hours. Terrible sunburn on my calves. :eek:
 
I use a Nat Match in a GI composite stock for daily carry.
Besides being as accurate as I can shoot, it can shoot anything ammo wise, except Norma match. (Soft brass).

I do a lot of cold, single shots, an after 3-4 thousand rounds, its a smooth machine.

I carry a 10 rounder in the gun and one in the pocket
 
I use a Nat Match in a GI composite stock for daily carry.
Besides being as accurate as I can shoot, it can shoot anything ammo wise, except Norma match. (Soft brass).

I do a lot of cold, single shots, an after 3-4 thousand rounds, its a smooth machine.

I carry a 10 rounder in the gun and one in the pocket
Huh, wonder if your issues with Norma might be cold-weather related. Mine ate it perfectly. Were you getting seperated cases?
 
Mine was a gift from my wife about 30 years ago. It's a SA NM and had delivered every time out. Most of the parts are original GI. Figure 30 years ago the choices were limited. Today I am not sure where I would look but these guys have appealed to me in the past. Anyway all my actual shooting experience has been with my SA NM and I have been nothing short of very happy with the rifle. The linked LRB rifles do not come along as inexpensive. :)

Ron
 
Has anyone used a JAE stock on their M1A?

Impressions, worth the cash, hard pass or?
 
In today's market Bula would be my choice. Forged receivers in my book. Find a used JRA as another alternative. Bula made their receivers...
 
How about the basics?

My friend does not often shoot Any of his numerous guns.

———-The guy owns Six Horses…:confused:..

Is Springfield M1A-1 (nib in 2021) often considered the most reliable & most Durable ‘current’ brand being produced now? :)

I’m simply curious.
 
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I've got a Springfield M1a 'Socom16'... the 16" barreled version. Love it. It is a niche weapon, however, and if you plan on doing accuracy shooting, probably not the best choice.

A lot of people poo-poo the Springfields... but they do have a lifetime guarantee, so if something goes catiwonkers, they will stand behind it.

I am also a forum member over at M14.com... and you can pick up some scuttle over there on certain builds. The M14 platform is expensive, I would do your due diligence before plunking down a bunch of money.
 
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