Do You Agree With ANY Gun Control Laws?

Do You Agree With Any Gun Control Laws?


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The question is very broad. I’m for fewer laws but not necessarily no laws. We could get rid of 2/3rds of the laws and be better off.

The root problem with guns is that criminals use guns to commit crimes. The guns aren’t the problem, the criminals are the problem. Punish the criminals. Gun laws generally punish the law abiding citizens while not really having much impact on crime. Anti-gun activist don’t give 2 hoots about gun owner rights so they are OK infringing on our rights since it doesn’t impact them.
 
So much of crime in America is determined by the biographics and geographics..

Because race is such a factor it is a subject shunned by many. But we have to face the facts.

Black American males account for 6.5% of our population yet commit 50% of the murders and slightly over 50% of violent crime yearly.

More remarkable is the murrder rate of 90% of black on blacks. .About 12 counties in the USA account for over 80% of violent crime Without those 12 counties we would be as peaceful as Switzerland.

The destruction of the black family unit beginning in the 1950's has led us to this loss of so many lives every single day.
 
The one law I would like to see passed is that all laws apply to everyone equally, including politicians and celebrities. Too many of them are hypocrites, pushing to do away with concealed carry for the public while having their own armed private security. If their security was held to the same laws as what they want for the rest of us they'd think twice about what laws they wanted to pass. That being said, being limited to no laws is too far the other way. I would not want a student at my son's high school who's mentally ill and promising to kill everyone at the school to have access to a gun.
 
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Do You Agree With ANY Gun Control Laws?
Kinda ... :)

When CA passed the law that limited one gun a month purchase, all of us at the gun store just looked at each other quietly then burst out into roaring laughter. :rofl:

"I gotta tell my wife that I am WAY BEHIND on my gun buying quota!!! One gun a month ... geeze ... :eek::D"
 
The issue is moot. We're always going to have some gun laws, but we will never have total prohibition. The real question is where we fall between the two extremes.
 
being an old codger more than a few years past 60 I think no one under 50 should have a gun. To much? ok 40. Still to much? how about a requirement is you have to know how to walk without a phone in your hand? All kidding aside our world has changed so dramatically that there may not be a fix except reverting back to the times when guns were accepted and safety and responsibility were taught to all. When all your firearms knowledge comes from tv and video games there is no understanding of consequences. Lack of respect for others lives and possessions can not be remedied by congress but by the village.
 
I don't trust other people quite that much.

Every time you get in a car, you trust the unwashed masses to safely control 3-ton SUVs and not hit you. Even if new belt-fed machine guns were available over the counter, realistically they would be used rarely in crime because they're big, heavy, cumbersome, unconcealable, and still pretty expensive (on the order of $10,000 for new ones if the FN M249s is any indication). Yeah a few mass shooters might use them in their sprees but far fewer than light mag-fed select-fire rifles, simply because they're so much heavier to lug around, especially with full belts of ammo in attached cans.
 
I'm in favor of more laws. I think that only men over six feet five with green eyes should be able to buy P&R S&W revolvers and Colt Single Action Army revolvers.
 
being an old codger more than a few years past 60 I think no one under 50 should have a gun. To much? ok 40. Still to much? how about a requirement is you have to know how to walk without a phone in your hand? All kidding aside our world has changed so dramatically that there may not be a fix except reverting back to the times when guns were accepted and safety and responsibility were taught to all. When all your firearms knowledge comes from tv and video games there is no understanding of consequences. Lack of respect for others lives and possessions can not be remedied by congress but by the village.

In 2015 our National Crime Rate was back to the low 1957( Codger!) Levels.

So not much has changed except for the occasional psychotic mass shooter.
 
So in Texas, we don’t need a background check to buy/sell to another Texas resident…just a drivers license.

So you think that in states that require the background check, that is stopping folks from buying and selling who plan on using the gun for a crime?

I’m thinking not…

I think it would make it more difficult and make a difference. It won't stop gun crime, of course. Just my opinion.
 
Every time you get in a car, you trust the unwashed masses to safely control 3-ton SUVs and not hit you. Even if new belt-fed machine guns were available over the counter, realistically they would be used rarely in crime because they're big, heavy, cumbersome, unconcealable, and still pretty expensive (on the order of $10,000 for new ones if the FN M249s is any indication). Yeah a few mass shooters might use them in their sprees but far fewer than light mag-fed select-fire rifles, simply because they're so much heavier to lug around, especially with full belts of ammo in attached cans.

Hey, you're entitled to your opinion. Just don't expect me to adopt it. :)
 
So much of crime in America is determined by the biographics and geographics..

Because race is such a factor it is a subject shunned by many. But we have to face the facts.

Black American males account for 6.5% of our population yet commit 50% of the murders and slightly over 50% of violent crime yearly.

More remarkable is the murrder rate of 90% of black on blacks. .About 12 counties in the USA account for over 80% of violent crime Without those 12 counties we would be as peaceful as Switzerland.

The destruction of the black family unit beginning in the 1950's has led us to this loss of so many lives every single day.
There was a study done here in Houston that mirrors many of the same statistics and ideas you indicated. In fact, violent crimes were pinpointed to a very small range of zip codes and the majority of those committing the violent crimes were recidivists who were well known to residents of the community and police. Overall it was not even a large number of individuals committing these crimes; you could easily fit them all in a small theater. Yet when presented with that information, instead of acting on it our former police chief shelved the study as racist and inflammatory.

I think that is the biggest obstacle we have. Cops know who and what the problem is. The courts do, but the judges keep letting these felons out on PR bonds to re-offend over and over again. But because of the reality of their ethnicity we are forced to tippy toe around the reality of the issue. Until we can get past this "they only did this because they were victims of life's circumstances" drivel can we begin to solve the problem.
 
The only answer is the Reconstruction of the Black Family Unit. This will take time ,money and passionate diligence.

Is America up to this monumental task?

It took 60 years to break it. We can restore it quicker with the right approaches.
 
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In theory, I'm okay with "safe storage" laws. We know that quite a few guns used in crime were stolen from homes and vehicles, and of course, we know that kids sometimes accidentally shoot themselves and teenagers sometimes intentionally shoot themselves. Locking up the guns might put a dent in that.

In reality, though, every gun law just seems to be a stepping stone to the next one, so my voice is one of the chorus who calls for existing laws to be enforced before new laws are added.
 
The only answer is the Reconstruction of the Black Family Unit. This will take time ,money and passionate diligence.

Is America up to this monumental task?
There are some interesting studies done in the 60s and 70s in Chicago where they moved mostly single parent families out of the projects and into the suburbs with nice houses, better job opportunities and better school, etc. It was a voluntary program and after ten years they found almost all of the families had chosen to move back to the projects because they felt they belonged and felt better about themselves back in the projects. Did they have better support systems in the projects? Maybe. But there is a lot more going on sociologically that we really aren't ready to able to talk about in this country. Interestingly you don't see this happening with most of the other migrant communities. So why with this group?
 
I voted yes, though I'm not a fan of "gun laws" in the sense that there are so many useless laws already in place. Restrictions, yes. Infringement, no.
 
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