New assault rifle being sold to civilians is twice as powerful as the AR15 and shoot thru body armor

Rhetoric. We know better.

I guess my .308 AR or other calibers that are built around an AR platform are a figment of your imagination. Sometimes you have to wonder how people even breath if they are this dumb.

Thank goodness rounds like 50 bmg, 338 lapua or 338-378 Weatherby mag or even 7mm and 300 mag can't go 1000 yards and through most anything. AND thankfully the 15 million people in America who have a hunting license don't own such guns. Lol.

I might worry

Apparently, the only qualification necessary to become a " journalist" (and I use that word loosely) these days is to be able to fog a mirror with minimal assistance.

"Turbo Charge Mass Shootings"??????


These people , the opponents of 2A and an armed civilian populace, really suck. I would say they, "the antis, anti American activists and mainstream media activists:" are turbo charged and doing much more harm to our country than a thousand mass shooters working cooperatively could ever inflict on us...... God help us

bdickens said:

Apparently, the only qualification necessary to become a " journalist" (and I use that word loosely) these days is to be able to fog a mirror with minimal assistance.

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Pravda's standards aren't that high... Blind loyalty to the Party is the only requirement.

Daily Beast? Might as well quote Vox or the Daily Kos.

I try to see things from these peoples ( the so called "journalists" ) point of view...I really do... but I can't seem to get my head that far up my...never mind.

Elkins45 said:

Daily Beast? Might as well quote Vox or the Daily Kos.

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Or the Young Turks . . .
For all the bloviating, have yet to see a single "Spear" on sale.
Nor a single round of the .277 Furry (and yes, that was a deliberate spelling, good enough for Matt Lerousier, good enough for me).

And,not even a hint that the DoD 80K psi loading will be made available "to the public" either.

Olin has said that the Full house round is one thing, and the "training" round or Army will be quite another. Speculation is that the Furry will be a bit warmer than the trainer.
For an arc that could be compared to:
.357mag+P+
.38spl
.32acp

And, really, the 6.8x51 is 90% the dimensions of 7.62x51, a glorified .276pedersen at near double the pressure.

CapnMac said:

Nor a single round of the .277 Furry

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If they had named it the 277 furry... it wouldn't be so dangerous. The media wouldn't dog it so much. No way a "furry" cartridge could blow out a lung like the super dangerous 9mm.

We should all have 22 caliber. That way the doctors have a chance.... Unless it's a 22 caliber AR. In which case it's black and evil. Especially with the thing in the stock that bumps and stuff.

I'm figuring it out. Lol.

Seriously though, I've Also researched the round itself and the rifle and I'm pretty impressed by the lack of info. Every other "next big thing" like the scar/ acr/mk23/ etc etc was publicized in a big way. Full schematics. Specs. Individual models etc.

Even the ugly tomb of the unknown soldiers guard pistol had more info available