Savage MSR not listed anymore?

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I bought one.

At my first range outing with 7.62x51 bulk purchase ammo it shot 1.5” at 200 yards (yes, 200 yards).

Then the gas system worked itself loose.

Savage repaired it and then I sold it immediately as accuracy doesn’t matter if reliability isn’t there.

Now I own a Wyndham Weaponry SRC-308 — an AR by a company that only makes ARs.

Never again shall I buy Item X from a company whose amazing reputation is based on making Item Y.

-Stan

I bought one too. A Valkyrie. It has been fine. No problems for the paltry amount of ammo I have burned during the last couple of years. Glad Savage fixed yours. At least their customer service remains relatively intact.
 
I'm a HUGE Savage fan boy. However, them dropping the MSR line wouldn't surprise me at all. It just didn't make much sense. You could get an excellent AR from an already established brand for a fraction of the price. As big of a Savage fan as I am, I looked at the MSR and wondered why anyone would buy it.

Well, I bought mine because I could get one chambered in 224 Valkyrie for less than a grand on the street, and since it was a Savage, I was reasonably confident that it would actually hit what it was aimed at. Yeah, I could have picked up a light 5.56mm carbine for down in the 500-600 dollar range, but that is not what I was looking for. I did not consider mine overpriced, especially compared to something from, say, LaRue Tactical.
 
I’ve got to admit, I did consider Savage when buying my first personally owned AR due my experience with their VERY accurate barrels.

I went a different route so I’m somewhat complicit in the demise of the Savage MSR lol.
 
I’ve got to admit, I did consider Savage when buying my first personally owned AR due my experience with their VERY accurate barrels.

I went a different route so I’m somewhat complicit in the demise of the Savage MSR lol.

Well, darn it, I bet you can still find some NEW, if they sold as poorly as some say. Go buy one now for penance.
 
Looks like Seekins is also pulling out of customer-direct sales, which seems to also be cowtowing to the proposed AWB.
 
Looks like Seekins is also pulling out of customer-direct sales, which seems to also be cowtowing to the proposed AWB.

Death of a thousand cuts. It's like being attacked by a swarm of mosquitos. Sooner or later, you just want to get out of it.
 
Savage didn't cancel the line because of a theoretical ban IMO, they just weren't making any money.

Yes, a small profit is better than no profit but a big profit is better than a small one and all the engineers and marketers and the other members of the AR department could probably yield better return designing, improving, manufacturing, and marketing more successful products.

I never wanted a savage AR, I don't know a single person who would say Savage is the best or the cheapest. Colt, Aero Precision, Daniel defense, Ruger/S&W, Palmetto state armory, these are all names i hear but not Savage.

I think they just didn't make any money.
 
I like that they scaled the AR-10 down a little. I'm halfway I. The market for an AR-10, and the savage has/had appeal. But for a regular ar15, nah.
 
I never thought an AR10 was reasonable anywhere as far as price. Too expensive and too big.
Depends on what you define as “too expensive and too big.”

I think I paid $1600 for my POF Revolution and it weighs less than 6lbs. Hard to beat that in my opinion and I’d much rather own a POF than a Savage. The Savage ARs I handled all felt just as cheap as every Savage bolt action I’ve ever handled.
 
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Savage didn't cancel the line because of a theoretical ban IMO, they just weren't making any money.

Yes, a small profit is better than no profit but a big profit is better than a small one and all the engineers and marketers and the other members of the AR department could probably yield better return designing, improving, manufacturing, and marketing more successful products.

I never wanted a savage AR, I don't know a single person who would say Savage is the best or the cheapest. Colt, Aero Precision, Daniel defense, Ruger/S&W, Palmetto state armory, these are all names i hear but not Savage.

I think they just didn't make any money.

I keep hearing about the lack of profit on the line. I don't hear about it from anybody inside Savage. I guess I will give them a call and see what they say, if the worker bees manning the phones actually have the straight scoop.

I don't know about the best. Blindfold me and drop 15 similar ARs into my hands and I would be unable to tell them apart. Heck, most use the same furniture. Do the same test with some bolt guns, and I could probably tell you who made it just by the feel and how the bolt operates.

Cheapest? No, Savage was trying for a niche. Match type rifles in some of the more uncommon chamberings for a fairly reasonable price. Not just your plain old 400 dollar M4 clone. But, they were far from the most expensive. Colt and Daniel Defense will both make your eyes water when you write the check. S&W ought to stick to wheel guns. Ruger has always been pretty good and at a pretty good price point mostly. Actually, you could say Ruger isn't the best nor the cheapest either. I own stock in Ruger, but I don't own a 556. Does Aero even make complete rifles?

Whatever the reason, I am sorry the line was dropped. My one example is certainly fine. Not the cheapest, but not the most expensive by a long shot. Mine certainly shoots the way you would expect a modern Savage to shoot. Maybe it's not the best, but I am not going to spend three grand to see if that gets a better one.
 
Depends on what define as “too expensive and too big.”

I think I paid $1600 for my POF Revolution and it weighs less than 6lbs. Hard to beat that in my opinion and I’d much rather own a POF than a Savage. The Savage ARs I handled all felt just as cheap as every Savage bolt action I’ve ever handled.

Really? The Revolution isn't really a full fledged AR10. It uses AR15 parts and has a small frame. By the way, the specs say the thing weighs 7.3 lbs out of the box. That is still pretty light, but it means 9 plus pounds with optics and a load of 7.62 and any other dodads you hang on it. FYI, 1600 bucks is too expensive for me for a black rifle. If you think that is pocket change, I am envious.
 
Really? The Revolution isn't really a full fledged AR10. It uses AR15 parts and has a small frame. By the way, the specs say the thing weighs 7.3 lbs out of the box. That is still pretty light, but it means 9 plus pounds with optics and a load of 7.62 and any other dodads you hang on it. FYI, 1600 bucks is too expensive for me for a black rifle. If you think that is pocket change, I am envious.
I typed Revolution. I meant Rogue. I have had both. $1600 is not expensive for a quality rifle. I’d rather have one Rogue at 5.9 lbs and plenty of accuracy than a couple of Savage or DPMS 308s with their beefy frames, excess weight and substandard quality for the same money.

With my Rogue I’m sitting right at 10.4 lbs with my thermal clipped in front of my scope. My 6.8 AR-15 is 9.6 lbs. Not even one pound of difference in the two and my 6.8 is a lightweight build. That’s loaded, suppressor attached and thermal clipped on. It’s a lot lighter than that without the can and thermal.
 
I typed Revolution. I meant Rogue. I have had both. $1600 is not expensive for a quality rifle. I’d rather have one Rogue at 5.9 lbs and plenty of accuracy than a couple of Savage or DPMS 308s with their beefy frames, excess weight and substandard quality for the same money.

With my Rogue I’m sitting right at 10.4 lbs with my thermal clipped in front of my scope. My 6.8 AR-15 is 9.6 lbs. Not even one pound of difference in the two and my 6.8 is a lightweight build. That’s loaded, suppressor attached and thermal clipped on. It’s a lot lighter than that without the can and thermal.

Yeah, I have hefted some chunky law enforcement M4's too. Funny how you can hang the pounds on those things without really trying. 1600 bucks remains expensive to me. I have a safe full of quality that cost me way less than that. I don't do black rifles much. I have one. Not my game. Somebody called them Barbie dolls for men. Playing dressup.

Again, the Rogue is a trimmed Revolution, which is basically an AR15 with a big mag well. When I made my initial too heavy comment, I was referring to a standard AR10. I stand by my too expensive statement. That being said, whatever kind of rifle it is, anything north of 10 lbs is too heavy except for carrying up to the shooting pad or bench or varmint stand. I am old. For me, a carry rifle better be much lighter. After all, out in the bush, you aren't just carrying your rifle. Even on a hunt.

I considered the original M16A1 to be about right. I carried it enough to know.
 
Yeah, I have hefted some chunky law enforcement M4's too. Funny how you can hang the pounds on those things without really trying. 1600 bucks remains expensive to me. I have a safe full of quality that cost me way less than that. I don't do black rifles much. I have one. Not my game. Somebody called them Barbie dolls for men. Playing dressup.

Again, the Rogue is a trimmed Revolution, which is basically an AR15 with a big mag well. When I made my initial too heavy comment, I was referring to a standard AR10. I stand by my too expensive statement. That being said, whatever kind of rifle it is, anything north of 10 lbs is too heavy except for carrying up to the shooting pad or bench or varmint stand. I am old. For me, a carry rifle better be much lighter. After all, out in the bush, you aren't just carrying your rifle. Even on a hunt.

I considered the original M16A1 to be about right. I carried it enough to know.
To each his own. I’ve been toting suppressed rifles with thermals around for a long time and I have yet to find a rifle I like for shooting pigs that doesn’t break the 9 1/2 lb range, so I carry rifles that are on the heavy side more often than not. Even my Ruger No. 1s get pretty close to that mark once scoped. 10 lbs just doesn’t meet my requirement for “heavy”. My Falkor is heavy at 17 lbs.
 
To each his own. I’ve been toting suppressed rifles with thermals around for a long time and I have yet to find a rifle I like for shooting pigs that doesn’t break the 9 1/2 lb range, so I carry rifles that are on the heavy side more often than not. Even my Ruger No. 1s get pretty close to that mark once scoped. 10 lbs just doesn’t meet my requirement for “heavy”. My Falkor is heavy at 17 lbs.

Yeah, 17 lbs is hernia heavy. Anyway, can't hunt at night here. They think you are poaching.
 
Anyone else noticed that Savage Arms isn't listing the MSR series on their website or in their 2022 catalog? I haven't been active lately so I just noticed it myself. I am wondering what happened.
Saturated market
Late comer
Poor advertising

All add up to poor sales.
 
True enough except for the advertising. I read reviews by gun mags. Those are still online today.
All advertising is not created equal. I don’t remember a single article or ad about the Savage ARs that made me want one, or think that they did anything that another brand didn’t do better for the same or less money.
 
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Maybe the MSRs were dropped to make room for the reintroduction of the 99 series? One can only hope!

Don't get my hopes up!

Although, I wouldn't be surprised if they bring a lever action back. Something similar to a Henry Long Ranger, but I think we've seen the last of the *real* 99's even if they name a new offering that.
 
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