Mail-order ammo stolen by delivery co?

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My address is on Larkwood DR. I get packages and mail quite often meant for the same house number on Parkwood DR which is 5-6 miles away. They get stuff meant for me occasionally too. If the label is printed it rarely happens, but if the address is handwritten it happens more often.

I had a Christmas card meant for Parkwood drive delivered to my house 3 times last year. I had just been sticking it back in the mailbox, but after the 3rd time I marked through Parkwood written in cursive and printed PARKWOOD in bold red letters before placing it back in the mailbox the 4th time.

I sold a rifle stock through another gun forum to a guy in Charlotte NC. I shipped it USPS. Tracking said it was delivered, but the buyer didn't have it. I ensured it for $500, but USPS said that since it was delivered I had no claim. I assumed it must have been stolen off the guys front porch so I contacted LE in Charlotte after reimbursing the guy for the stock. The detective I spoke to made a few calls and the Charlotte USPS found the stock. I have no idea where, but they did finally deliver it. The guy paid me for it a 2nd time.
 
jmr40 said:
My address is on Larkwood DR. I get packages and mail quite often meant for the same house number on Parkwood DR which is 5-6 miles away.
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We have it pretty bad, until I get to talk to them, every time we get a new carrier. For some unknown to me reason, my mailbox and the very next one down the road have the exact same 4 digits, the last two in a different order. We actually have a gate between our properties to swap mail without having to get out on the road.
 
My last assignment before retirement was a shipping hub. I'm not going to talk about the shippers I'm going to talk about my coworkers.

My supervisor showed me repeated emails that our manager got from the shipping company.

The emails all said the same thing, your guards aren't doing their rounds. Your guards aren't checking the things they're supposed to check. Your guards aren't even submitting reports. The only reason that I saw the repeated emails is because almost every single one of them said "The only reports that we are getting are from Graveyard at Mount View." (AKA Me).

Our manager repeatedly replied to the emails that the guards would be retrained, the issues would be addressed and it most assuredly would never happen again.

To my knowledge no remedial action was ever taken.

The point I'm trying to make is it that's the workforce that we have now. Employers are begging people to come to work now. McDonald's is hiring people at $15 an hour and they can't beg people to work for them.

An employee that at least shows up is better than nothing even if they don't do their job right
 
I had the very same experience as the OP. I called the Fedex ph # to report that I did not get my package despite my account showing a delivery was made to my door. I was home all day and waiting for the package. The lady customer service rep says, "It shows in the system that it was delivered to your front door." I told her "I know that; I just told you that, but it is not here." She said to check around on my porch because the delivery guy likely hid it for security reasons. I informed her my concrete front door patio is bare except for two lawn chairs and the package definitely isn't there. Eventually the package showed up. Sometimes you just have to pester the snot out of people to get them to do their job. I don't like having to do that.
 
These responses corroborate my instinct about this being a failure of the investigation department rather than an outright theft. But at the end of the day, some random person has 1000 rounds of ammunition, which is annoying for multiple reasons.
 
I have had a label that annexed my appt# to the street address. Package went to 4125 instead of # 4 125
 
Hartkopf said:
With all the recent events in the world it will be real easy for us to get cynical in a hurry. All it takes is a few antis in the correct spots and we could have some fairly wide spread ammo theft. Then we have fairly wide spread fear of ordering online and VOILA, look at how effectively the antis restricted online ammo sales!

The one thing I have personally noticed is one of the major online ammo retailers has stopped using boxes with their name printed across the side.

IMO, track and document everything and when you tell customer service you have security cameras with no delivery at said time, problems get solved pretty quick.
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Yes I think that is a great idea. A good Ring doorbell or other security camera that gets a good view of the area should shoot down their "it shows it was delivered" lies pretty effectively. Though as we know, that likely isn't going to change their story. When I was married my wife ordered many, many mail order things and UPS in our area (Spring, TX) was terrible about losing shipments. One time they even delivered a refrigerator to the wrong address.

I haven't had as many problems with Fed-Ex.

Now with the USPS, I'm lucky if I get anything they deliver. My postal person is very bad about being too lazy to walk all the way up to my door and just tosses the package in the general direction of the front door.
I won't even start about her propensity to stuff packages that are too big for or are fragile into the mail box. I would vote YES if there was ever a referendum to privatize the post office. Your mileage may vary.
 
I walk my dog every morning down to the end of a dead end road. At the end of the road is a paved driveway, a gate and a house that no one has lived in for at least 8 years. The driveway is near grown over with weeds and trees. Clearly no one has been there in years. It does not take a genius to figure that out just by looking.
That day there was a package in the middle of the driveway next to the gate. As dumb as I am, I knew something was wrong. I looked at the address label. The road name on the label was correct. But, the zip code, the address And The City name Was Not. The city it was addressed to is over 50 mile away. I noticed it was addressed to a children's medical group so I got the name of the medicgroup, the name of the person and phone number off the package. I also saw that it said the contents was a nebulizer.
I called the number and talked to the person who's name was on the package. They came out that night to pick it up.
I can't for the life of me figure out how a FedEx driver could be so stupid that they could tell by just looking at the label that not only it was the wrong address , But the Wrong City.
How dumb do you have to be to get a job at fedex?
 
I’ve never had any complaints about usps or ups, and dhl when they were a thing. In my area FedEx has been a string of incompetence for years.
 
I worked at both Fed Ex and UPS in college as a package handler (the guy who loads the delivery trucks). I hope to add some perspective. The drivers were paid by the package, a flat rate per box. It's hot, hard, and occasionally dirty work.

You have a route, and certain packages go in certain locations in the truck by the route. The handler puts them on the shelf or floor by route, and gets about 5-15 seconds to see the address and load the truck. I loaded 3 trucks at a time, working 5 days a week from around 3AM to 9AM. I was tired! The driver comes in and moves them around, as you can't be 100%, it's just too busy.

They don't like stopping the conveyor belt, as the package handlers are hourly employees and they want to get the trucks on the road. When you get a lot, too bad, toss them in the truck and look later. If a box splits, toss it near the truck and hopefully get to it later, just taping the box up and stuffing what you can inside. I'm sure things are worse now.

Drivers are usually at the hub around 6, if they are smart. They'll drive all day, dropping off packages, making that flat rate per package. If they have 100 packages at one place, it's a good hourly rate. If not, imagine how long it will take to deliver 100 packages to 100 houses. Those guys made the same money but took drastically different time to make it.

The good packages are from frequent buyers, as you learn where they live and where to put them in the truck quickly. The hard ones are the one offs, who order something once a year or so. The driver's are annoyed you live so far out and know how much they are making to make the drive. Imagine a 30 minute drive to make a few bucks. Congrats, you spent an hour round trip to make 3-5 dollars, in a truck you bought and maintain yourself from your pay (Fed ex).

Now imagine you are a sub driver, doing the same thing, but you don't know the route well. You have a 12 hour day on the road, and you have to GPS everything. They are frustrated. They aren't supposed to return to the hub with packages that could be delivered. They used 12 hours to make 250 bucks, minus taxes, minus vehicle maintenance and insurance, etc.

None of the above is meant to be an excuse, but merely to provide context. Things may have changed, and I may have misremembered some things.
 
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I had an order of ammo that an email came in stating it was delivered, but nothing at the door. I walked out the long driveway to the main street (about 300 feet and out of sight of the house) and found the package lying by the entry on the ground with the ORM-D sticker prominent on the side. If I had not seen the email it could have been there all night or until it disappeared whichever came first!:(
I called and complained but they just said it was a substitute driver and he was afraid of the long driveway and didn't know if he could turn around!o_O
 
A year back my wife got a letter from some gov office she was being fined $1000.00 for littering. Confused she called and they found an empty package in a county we have never been to. An hour away. Come to find out Amazon contracted some turds to deliver everyone’s goods. What did they do? Took everything out of the box’s and chunked them in a vacant lot. We where able to prove it was never delivered so no fine for us. Oh and everyone need ma cameras. So they can’t say we delivered it. Send them a copy from the time they “delivered it”. Enough folks doing this might make a difference. It’s will help if you have to take them to court at least.
 
yep, I think everyone has a story like this. I ordered Fed ex, some $1500 speakers, 2 huge boxes. Sat at my house watching the street, saw the Fed ex truck go by the house, and watching the tracking info on the internet. Update says delivered but not at my house. I immediately call Fed ex and they claim they contacted the driver and say he is going back to recover it. I then drive down the street and find the driver. I ask where he delivered and he takes me to the house and there it is. The guy at the house was actually in the process of loading it in his truck to delivery to me. It was supposed to be a signed delivery, but the house owner said it was dropped off. I also ask the Fed Ex driver if anyone contacted him and he says no one contacted him (I think they lied to me and they didn't contact anyone and just wrote it off as a lost package, pretty lazy). I got an email the next day saying the package is lost and they will start an open investigation. I could of reported it and probably got my money back or a 2nd pair of speakers for free...but I got my stuff so I let it go. And this is not the first time...
 
IlikeSA said:
I worked at both Fed Ex and UPS in college as a package handler (the guy who loads the delivery trucks). I hope to add some perspective. The drivers were paid by the package, a flat rate per box. It's hot, hard, and occasionally dirty work.

You have a route, and certain packages go in certain locations in the truck by the route. The handler puts them on the shelf or floor by route, and gets about 5-15 seconds to see the address and load the truck. I loaded 3 trucks at a time, working 5 days a week from around 3AM to 9AM. I was tired! The driver comes in and moves them around, as you can't be 100%, it's just too busy.

They don't like stopping the conveyor belt, as the package handlers are hourly employees and they want to get the trucks on the road. When you get a lot, too bad, toss them in the truck and look later. If a box splits, toss it near the truck and hopefully get to it later, just taping the box up and stuffing what you can inside. I'm sure things are worse now.

Drivers are usually at the hub around 6, if they are smart. They'll drive all day, dropping off packages, making that flat rate per package. If they have 100 packages at one place, it's a good hourly rate. If not, imagine how long it will take to deliver 100 packages to 100 houses. Those guys made the same money but took drastically different time to make it.

The good packages are from frequent buyers, as you learn where they live and where to put them in the truck quickly. The hard ones are the one offs, who order something once a year or so. The driver's are annoyed you live so far out and know how much they are making to make the drive. Imagine a 30 minute drive to make a few bucks. Congrats, you spent an hour round trip to make 3-5 dollars, in a truck you bought and maintain yourself from your pay (Fed ex).

Now imagine you are a sub driver, doing the same thing, but you don't know the route well. You have a 12 hour day on the road, and you have to GPS everything. They are frustrated. They aren't supposed to return to the hub with packages that could be delivered. They used 12 hours to make 250 bucks, minus taxes, minus vehicle maintenance and insurance, etc.

None of the above is meant to be an excuse, but merely to provide context. Things may have changed, and I may have misremembered some things.
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I hope to add some perspective as well:

None of that is my problem....
 
I happen to like writing out checks to my creditors and mailing them in. Sort of gives me a warm fuzziness about being in control of my money.

So not to open a tangent, but this year I had a lot of problems with my checks not being delivered. This caused me all kinds of grief the first part of the year dealing with phone calls and emails asking where the money was.

I covered everything by phone payments by credit card or by-phone bank withdrawals, so no credit problems, but it's been ongoing and just recently happened with a power company payment disappearing.

Again, a tangent, but reading this thread, I wonder what the heck is going on out there. No checks have been misused, but I wonder where the devil they could have gone. In one case, two payments for two months suddenly showed up simultaneously after I contacted the creditor about them. OK, so then I had a credit + balance, but holy cow, are the rest of them sitting on people's desks somewhere or something?

It's almost as if here were a vast plan to force, urge, encourage, people to make payments automatically, which is what I've done with most of them by now.

But of course, that's geriatric paranoia, right?

'Tis a puzzlement.

Terry, 230RN
 
I imagine that all of us who have several hundreds of deliveries come or go have a few similar stories. I do believe that during ammo shortage periods, the unscrupulous among delivery staff - and all professions have some of the unscrupulous - find ways to benefit.

Over the last 10 years I’ve received one leaking ammo shipment with cartridges trickling out, several where the cardboard containers looking like they had been dribbled and were on the verge of leaking, and a couple delivered to my next door neighbor’s front porch. In those cases with damaged packages, I’ve reached out to the vendors so they know that they may need to package ammo more securely.

On the positive side, about 99+% of my deliveries have come through without any problems whatsoever.
 
I haven't lost any ammo yet but I did have 2 trail cameras that never made it to my house via Fedex. I knew the driver who told me that it showed that it had been scanned and was on her truck but she couldn't find it. The dealer refunded my money but someone got free trail cams.
 
My UPS driver is a great, reliable guy. But when he’s on vacation, I get to drive around the country side looking for my primers in the cedars, WAY away from my house. :confused:

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I used to deliver for Meals on Wheels and was amazed at how poorly house numbers were displayed. I can only imagine how bad it may be in rural settings. Make it darn near impossible for someone driving by not to see your name and address. Don't make them guess. On the flip side, I'm sure every delivery driver has a cell phone with a camera. It would take about two seconds to take a pic of the package sitting on someones porch and no extra effort to slide the package behind a bush or railing. My Fedx guy sets it right in the middle of the top step, might as well attach a friggin balloon to it.
 
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