New Ruger LC Carbine in 5.7

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FL-NC said:
Not for me, I already have the PS90 that I can't afford to shoot cause those things are so hungry. You know what might be cool? A SMALL gun in 5.7 x 28- like a S&W shield, Glock 48 type-something on those lines. It would have an impressive capacity!
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Now that's an idea I could get on board with.
 
chicharrones said:
Could be worse, like a Marlin CSBL. At least the new Ruger doesn't have a Grip Zone.
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100%! No Grip Zone

now that’s a Lawyer Label, I bet someone griped the muzzle end and shot them self. And the lawyers were like. we must label were to grip the gun
 
N555 said:
20 years ago there was 1 manufacturer making 2 different firearms that fired 5.7x28 and 1 ammo manufacturer in the US.
Now we have at least 6 manufacturers making 10 different guns and several other companies making AR uppers. There are 2 or 3 ammo manufacturers and about to be 1 more.
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Exactly my point. It hangs out with the 17 HMR in terms of (un)popularity.

[/QUOTE]How many different 357 pumps are being made?[/QUOTE]
Zero, but not for lack of interrst. 357 rifles of all types are wildly popular. Used 357 pumps fetch a premium and Ruger can't keep the 77/357, a bolt action, on the shelves.
 
Crosshair said:
Exactly my point. It hangs out with the 17 HMR in terms of (un)popularity.
Zero, but not for lack of interrst. 357 rifles of all types are wildly popular. Used 357 pumps fetch a premium and Ruger can't keep the 77/357, a bolt action, on the shelves.
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Seems to be growing good for a 20 year old caliber that doesn't have a parent case, wouldn't fit any existing mags or cleanly drop into existing platforms.
 
Hi-Point snobs? More like Hi-Point trolls derailing a non-HiPoint thread. :alien:

So if folks think they'd buy a new Ruger LC at $350 instead of $980 retail, does that mean that the same folks would only pay $120 for a new Hi-Point that retails for $340? Or is it simply more acceptable to pay closer to retail if it's a HiPoint?

Didn't this same sort of commentary come out of the woodwork when the Ruger PC Carbine first came out?
 
chicharrones said:
Hi-Point snobs? More like Hi-Point trolls derailing a non-HiPoint thread. :alien:

So if folks think they'd buy a new Ruger LC at $350 instead of $980 retail, does that mean that the same folks would only pay $120 for a new Hi-Point that retails for $340? Or is it simply more acceptable to pay closer to retail if it's a HiPoint?

Didn't this same sort of commentary come out of the woodwork when the Ruger PC Carbine first came out?
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wish Hi-Point would take glock mags
 
zaitcev said:
Is anyone trying to put AR57 back in production?

It would be quite welcome if someone rebooted AR57 in current conditions, I think.
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I think SOMEONE is making them again. ClassicFirearms.com has been getting them in stock here and there (ie, selling out and then getting more) for a while now. They actually have them in stock as of this moment: https://www.classicfirearms.com/ar57-5-7x28-ult-upper-receiver/

I was close to buying one recently actually but I kinda like the idea of the Ruger more - mostly because the Ruger is most assuredly not an AR-15 derivative and the AR57 uses an AR lower :). I'm just tired of AR related stuff. I've got 7 of them built and like 6 more stripped lowers if I ever wanted to buy more. When looking at anything new "not an AR derivative" is a major selling point :D.
 
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mgmorden said:
I think SOMEONE is making them again. ClassicFirearms.com has been getting them in stock here and there (ie, selling out and then getting more) for a while now. They actually have them in stock as of this moment: https://www.classicfirearms.com/ar57-5-7x28-ult-upper-receiver/

I was close to buying one recently actually but I kinda like the idea of the Ruger more - mostly because the Ruger is most assuredly not an AR-15 derivative and the AR57 uses an AR lower :). I'm just tired of AR related stuff. I've got 7 of them built and like 6 more stripped lowers if I ever wanted to buy more. When looking at anything new "not an AR derivative" is a major selling point :D.
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There's only one question. How mad will my wife be if I buy one now.
 
OK Ruger...

How about making the 10/22 type rifle in 5.7x28!!
I would buy a newer carbine, but one of these would be wonderful!!
Well...so would a GP100 in 41 mag with a matching lever action rifle!!

Come on Ruger!!!
 
Obviously designed to compete on the same shelf as an AR, yet:
less accurate than an AR
shorter range than an AR
less power than an AR
Heavy as an AR
Twice the cost of an AR
Almost certainly less reliable than an AR
same capacity as an AR (depends I guess, we'll see what the market does)
Less serviceable than an AR
6X the ammo price of an AR
1/5 the ammo availability of an AR
reloading brass hard to find, unlike an AR
Not meaningfully lower recoil, or lower noise than an AR

Probably marketing to the pistol/rifle 1 ammo crowd, and good for them.

I'm sure they will sell.

This reminds me of The Judge...
guy 1: "Oh its a FworteeFyyv"
guy 2: "Its just 45colt"
guy 1: "Yea but it has more power cuz it can chute slugs!"
guy 2: "....but a 45 colt has much more power than a 410 slug?"
guy 1: "noowww way, its a slug!"
guy 2: "okay, happy you like it"
guy 1: "wanna shoot it?"
guy 2: "no I'm good, I've shot 45's"
guy 3: "WOW! Is that a handgun that can shoot slugs!?"

I picture similar to the above with this, and who cares? Good for the industry, good for the niche buyer, great for 5.7 fans that have to pay too much in the best of times to shoot it.

I'm bitter because Ruger keeps throwing money at R/D and market research (as the should) in an effort to turn themselves into Kel-Tec (who I Do like, but I do not like Ruger trying to be), instead of making 10mm NM Vaqueros and all steel Standard MK's.

I would not buy one because while Ruger has an excellent reputation for service, they also have a very well known F-You attitude toward obsolete model owners. If this doesn't sell well, and is dropped, I would not expect factory support, and unless a few million go out first, I would not expect an aftermarket.

Its hard to see a value in a carbine in this cal. It make a lot of sense in its design roll as a special application/combat theatre, non-combatant roll, but I will never tell someone what gun to love.
 
Over the years, I went from enthusiastically trying any firearm anyone would let me.
Any firearm. Magnum turkey slugs? Yep
Elephant gun? yep
Mouse gun? yep.
Exact model and configuration of a gun you already own? Yep.. and so on.

These days, I usually say no, because the idea of wasting 50c-$3.00 of someone's money to try a firearm I'm not going to care about seems unfair to the owner.
I will say THIS rifle is one I would definitely take them up on the offer thou.
 
mgmorden said:
I think SOMEONE is making them again. ClassicFirearms.com has been getting them in stock here and there (ie, selling out and then getting more) for a while now. They actually have them in stock as of this moment: https://www.classicfirearms.com/ar57-5-7x28-ult-upper-receiver/

I was close to buying one recently actually but I kinda like the idea of the Ruger more - mostly because the Ruger is most assuredly not an AR-15 derivative and the AR57 uses an AR lower :). I'm just tired of AR related stuff. I've got 7 of them built and like 6 more stripped lowers if I ever wanted to buy more. When looking at anything new "not an AR derivative" is a major selling point :D.
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I went shooting a couple of weeks back and the guy next to me was shooting an AR-15 5.7x28 upper. I didn’t catch the make, but he had put the upper on an Anderson lower he had put together. (His lower build needed some attention, it went full auto on him. At least he was smart enough to do an initial function test with just three rounds in the mag :what:.)

The guy said he really liked the round, it has a bit of zing yet zero recoil. While an AR and matching FN 5-7 pistol would be awesome, I do not think I would get into one as locating ammo to feed it here is really tough right now.

Stay safe.
 
chicharrones has the right idea; a PCC with the magazine thru' the pistol grip, shortening the action, but in 9mm. Had a Beretta Storm carbine that was scarcely any longer than a Colt AR9 SBR.
Since they are using pistol mags anyway, you don't need an Uzi carpenter's square grip.
Really don't understand Ruger's thinking.
A thru-the-pistol-grip 9 would keep it short and handy, even with a legitimate buttstock.
Moon
 
mgmorden said:
I think SOMEONE is making them again. ClassicFirearms.com has been getting them in stock here and there (ie, selling out and then getting more) for a while now. They actually have them in stock as of this moment: https://www.classicfirearms.com/ar57-5-7x28-ult-upper-receiver/

I was close to buying one recently actually but I kinda like the idea of the Ruger more - mostly because the Ruger is most assuredly not an AR-15 derivative and the AR57 uses an AR lower :). I'm just tired of AR related stuff. I've got 7 of them built and like 6 more stripped lowers if I ever wanted to buy more. When looking at anything new "not an AR derivative" is a major selling point :D.
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Yessir! Just because an AR can be adapted to accomplish just about what any other gun made can do, doesn't mean I want another one.
 
mjsdwash said:
Obviously designed to compete on the same shelf as an AR, yet:
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I don't think so. I think the LC competes more directly with the lighter 9mm pistol caliber carbine variants out there, and even .22 WMR carbines like the KelTec CMR30. Clearly the LC is a less expensive alternative than the FN PS90, as well.

If we can overlook the price/availability of the cartridge for a moment, I see the LC exactly as the PDW that the cartridge it fires was designed to be. Shortish range, light recoil, reasonable capacity, in a short package considering the 16" barrel.

I can see the LC as very good home defense carbine for those averse to recoil. I can also see the LC as a so called "backpack/survival" carbine. A 16" barreled LC with a few loaded magazines should be a lighter and more compact package than a 16" barreled AR with the same number of equal capacity loaded magazines.

Plus, putting a folding stock on an AR certainly increases the price of that AR, while the LC has a folding stock included. Looks like the LC can fire with the stock folded, too.

Of course, I'm leaving out pistol ARs with arm braces here, which would be blasty little guns if in 5.56 with no suppressor.
 
chicharrones said:
I don't think so. I think the LC competes more directly with the lighter 9mm pistol caliber carbine variants out there, and even .22 WMR carbines like the KelTec CMR30. Clearly the LC is a less expensive alternative than the FN PS90, as well.

If we can overlook the price/availability of the cartridge for a moment, I see the LC exactly as the PDW that the cartridge it fires was designed to be. Shortish range, light recoil, reasonable capacity, in a short package considering the 16" barrel.

I can see the LC as very good home defense carbine for those averse to recoil. I can also see the LC as a so called "backpack/survival" carbine. A 16" barreled LC with a few loaded magazines should be a lighter and more compact package than a 16" barreled AR with the same number of equal capacity loaded magazines.

Plus, putting a folding stock on an AR certainly increases the price of that AR, while the LC has a folding stock included. Looks like the LC can fire with the stock folded, too.

Of course, I'm leaving out pistol ARs with arm braces here, which would be blasty little guns if in 5.56 with no suppressor.
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Another benefit as a backpack/survival carbine is sharing a common magazine if you own the Ruger 57 pistol . That greatly simplifies a your kit if you only have to worry about a single style of mag.
 
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