Just couldn’t pass up another Blackhawk

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I really wasn’t in the market for another SA, but once in a while you just can’t say no to a gun in nice shape. Especially in a caliber you already have ammo for and experience with reloading. :thumbup:

I picked up this 4 5/8” .45 Colt Blackhawk that only had a little scuff at the end of the ejector rod housing, the usual Ruger turn line and a tiny discolored spot on the side of the front sight. The rest of the gun looks like it was hardly fired at all.

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I took it to the range on Friday with three home-brewed loads; a 185 gr SWC over 8.0 gr Unique, a 200 gr RNFP over 9.0 gr Unique and a 230 gr RNL (.45 ACP bullet) over 8.5 gr Unique.

After trying to adjust the sights using a foam shooting block to support the frame in front of the trigger guard and another for my wrists. I saw that it seemed to be consistently a bit low at 15 yards. The shots came up a bit as I shot, but this may require a bit of material removed from the front sight to bring them up a bit more.

Using the foam rests, I shot a six-shot group of these three loads at 20 yards, which is as far out as this indoor range has. These are basically X and 10-rings on a B-27 target. (I adjusted the windage as I was shooting this series.) The top of my front sight was set right at the mid-point of the orange ovals.

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#3 above was the 185 gr load. It is really a pleasant load to shoot, but it shot pretty low and a bit right. (Even with playing with the elevation it still consistently shot low.) I don’t have too many more of these loaded up, but I do have 250 of the coated 200 gr swc that I will use when these are gone.

#4 was next, it was the 200 gr RNFP. This is a fairly high velocity load that hit a bit higher than the 185 gr load did. It also had a bit more recoil, but it wasn’t magnum-level recoil at all. This shoots great in my old Vaquero as well as my Rossi 16” ‘92, and is a load that I will e keeping in the rotation for as long as I can find Unique to load with.

#5 had pretty much the same impact area as the 200 gr load did. This one doesn’t kick much and was one of my favorite SASS target bullets as it is super easy to drop into the revolver’s loading gate compared to SWC type loads. I don’t use it in the rifle because the nose is a bit pointy on the primer compared to RNFP bullets, but I bet it moves effortlessly through the ‘92 action should I ever try.

One thing I noticed on these targets, and a couple of others I shot with this Ruger, was that one round usually impacted just a bit higher than the other five no matter what load was fired. The Blackhawk may have one chamber just a bit off compared to the others in the cylinder. The next time I shoot it I will try to isolate my shots on separate targets to figure out if this single flyer is consistent, or if it was just a product of my fair-to-middlin firearm skills.

I’m happy with this new revolver. Even though I wasn’t looking for one like it to add to the stash, it shot well and functioned perfectly. This newest .45 brings my Ruger SA total up to 9 (In 6 calibers), which is more than enough to keep me busy fiddling around with them for quite a while. :)

Stay safe.
 
In the photos, the rear sight appears to be run down almost to minimum.
Have you raised them?

The factory standard loads are 255gr at approximately 850fps, equivalent to about 7.8gr of Unique. So, I would expect to see the lighter bullets to strike lower.
My favorite bullet for the .45Colt is a Lee 255gr RFN bullet that I size to .452”. But, the RCBS 270gr SAA SWC frequently shoots better.
I like the Lee because it’s a 6-cavity mold! The RCBS is just 2.
I also use either #231, or LongShot. But Unique is the old standard.

I’d try a heavier bullet and lower powder charge before filing the front sight.
However, I’ve got a NM Black Hawk in .30Carbine that I had to take approximately 0.250” off the top of the front sight in order to get it to zero. It shot 6”low with the rear sight at maximum elevation.
It obviously has the wrong front sight installed.

A slower, heavier bullet will correct your POI/POA issue.
 
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Nice find. I passed on two blackhawks yesterday at the gunshow. Both showed more wear than yours and I am not paying what would have been well north of $900 with tax for a used new model blackhawk.

Calculator shows it would have been $962.12. Uh,uh, no way.
 
Nice find. I passed on two blackhawks yesterday at the gunshow. Both showed more wear than yours and I am not paying what would have been well north of $900 with tax for a used new model blackhawk.

Calculator shows it would have been $962.12. Uh,uh, no way.
This ended up south of $800 total. Not a steal, but not too bad in todays limited availability era.

I agree, it looks like you have lots of adjustment before having to take a file after your front sight.

I did bring it up a bit, but I will keep going to see if a standard load brings up the POI. I hate any permanent alterations, so taking a file to it will be a last resort. :thumbup:

Stay safe.
 
Have you considered trying a different load? Perhaps less powder, slow the bullets down so they hit higher?

Nice find, by the way. :cool:
I haven’t seen a Blackhawk for sale in quite a while.
 
I saw that it seemed to be consistently a bit low at 15 yards.
great find. try shooting it off-hand. the follow-through and recoil should be different than from the bench. regardless, the horizontal dispersion of those groups is outstanding. the first shot difference may be a powder forward/back issue.

luck,

murf
 
Me too. I have found a 41 mag, a 44 mag, and a 44 special, but the 45 Colt with a 4 5/8 barrel seems to be a unicorn.
All my other Ruger SA’s save the Wranglers, an old Vaquero.45 Colt ( 4 5/8”) and my flattop .44 Spl. have 6.5” barrels.

The .44 Spl. has my personal favorite, the 5.5” barrel. I kind of wish they all had that length, I find it the perfect balance of sighting plane, ammo velocity and portability. :thumbup:

But hey, with fun and easy shooting guns like these are any barrel length will do just fine. :)

Stay safe.
 
Riomouse911
All my other Ruger SA’s save the Wranglers, an old Vaquero.45 Colt ( 4 5/8”) and my flattop .44 Spl. have 6.5” barrels.

The .44 Spl. has my personal favorite, the 5.5” barrel. I kind of wish they all had that length, I find it the perfect balance of sighting plane, ammo velocity and portability.

While I prefer the visual aesthetic of the 4 5/8" barrel with a single action, I agree with you in that there's something about the 5 1/2" barrel that makes it just right in terms of balance, handling, and overall utility.
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Cool man. Thanks for sharing. Nice shooting too.

You can get a different height rear sight blades. As well as varying width to the notches. I have my 44 set up with a wider notch and a lower blade, though I modified the blade instead of buying a new one. I have a spare for it also.
 
Nice find. I haven't seen a 4 5/8 Blackhawk in 45 Colt for a long time. The thread made me wonder how many Ruger single-actions I've picked up over the last 40 years. The number is both silly and embarrassing. But I do like single-actions that are accurate, well made and can be handed down to future generations.

PS: That silly number doesn't include cap and ball revolvers. That total would take the number way past silly and into ludicrous.

Jeff
 
I really wasn’t in the market for another SA, but once in a while you just can’t say no to a gun in nice shape. Especially in a caliber you already have ammo for and experience with reloading. :thumbup:

I picked up this 4 5/8” .45 Colt Blackhawk that only had a little scuff at the end of the ejector rod housing, the usual Ruger turn line and a tiny discolored spot on the side of the front sight. The rest of the gun looks like it was hardly fired at all.

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I took it to the range on Friday with three home-brewed loads; a 185 gr SWC over 8.0 gr Unique, a 200 gr RNFP over 9.0 gr Unique and a 230 gr RNL (.45 ACP bullet) over 8.5 gr Unique.

After trying to adjust the sights using a foam shooting block to support the frame in front of the trigger guard and another for my wrists. I saw that it seemed to be consistently a bit low at 15 yards. The shots came up a bit as I shot, but this may require a bit of material removed from the front sight to bring them up a bit more.

Using the foam rests, I shot a six-shot group of these three loads at 20 yards, which is as far out as this indoor range has. These are basically X and 10-rings on a B-27 target. (I adjusted the windage as I was shooting this series.) The top of my front sight was set right at the mid-point of the orange ovals.

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#3 above was the 185 gr load. It is really a pleasant load to shoot, but it shot pretty low and a bit right. (Even with playing with the elevation it still consistently shot low.) I don’t have too many more of these loaded up, but I do have 250 of the coated 200 gr swc that I will use when these are gone.

#4 was next, it was the 200 gr RNFP. This is a fairly high velocity load that hit a bit higher than the 185 gr load did. It also had a bit more recoil, but it wasn’t magnum-level recoil at all. This shoots great in my old Vaquero as well as my Rossi 16” ‘92, and is a load that I will e keeping in the rotation for as long as I can find Unique to load with.

#5 had pretty much the same impact area as the 200 gr load did. This one doesn’t kick much and was one of my favorite SASS target bullets as it is super easy to drop into the revolver’s loading gate compared to SWC type loads. I don’t use it in the rifle because the nose is a bit pointy on the primer compared to RNFP bullets, but I bet it moves effortlessly through the ‘92 action should I ever try.

One thing I noticed on these targets, and a couple of others I shot with this Ruger, was that one round usually impacted just a bit higher than the other five no matter what load was fired. The Blackhawk may have one chamber just a bit off compared to the others in the cylinder. The next time I shoot it I will try to isolate my shots on separate targets to figure out if this single flyer is consistent, or if it was just a product of my fair-to-middlin firearm skills.

I’m happy with this new revolver. Even though I wasn’t looking for one like it to add to the stash, it shot well and functioned perfectly. This newest .45 brings my Ruger SA total up to 9 (In 6 calibers), which is more than enough to keep me busy fiddling around with them for quite a while. :)

Stay safe.
Verrrry nice!
Agree with the others: get the rear sight up four or five clicks and see where you’re hitting.
 
Just this year I picked up a Ruger New Model Blackhawk Flattop .45 Colt with the 4 & 5/8” barrel and have been loving it. 255gr bullet at 1100fps is a bit jumpy in that small frame. After my last shooting session of several cylinders I learned I’m going to have to limit myself on those because at the end of the session I was pulling some shots. But I’ve had a blast with it and plan on carrying it in the whitetail woods.

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Just this year I picked up a Ruger New Model Blackhawk Flattop .45 Colt with the 4 & 5/8” barrel and have been loving it. 255gr bullet at 1100fps is a bit jumpy in that small frame. After my last shooting session of several cylinders I learned I’m going to have to limit myself on those because at the end of the session I was pulling some shots. But I’ve had a blast with it and plan on carrying it in the whitetail woods.

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That load is a little bit spicy in the shorter barrels, I bet it had some jump when the hammer fell. :eek: That is a fine looking flattop, those guns are certainly cool. :thumbup:

I do wish the Ruger Bisley grip and hammer parts were still available (or at least affordable!) . Swapping out the grip shape on my .41, .44 Spl and this .45 Colt would help to make heavier recoiling loads a bit more manageable in my hands.

Stay safe.
 
That load is a little bit spicy in the shorter barrels, I bet it had some jump when the hammer fell. :eek: That is a fine looking flattop, those guns are certainly cool. :thumbup:

I do wish the Ruger Bisley grip and hammer parts were still available (or at least affordable!) . Swapping out the grip shape on my .41, .44 Spl and this .45 Colt would help to make heavier recoiling loads a bit more manageable in my hands.

Stay safe.

It is snappy but fun. And agreed one day I’d like to convert it to a Bisley frame.
 
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