Canada goes all in - Trudeau announces ban on handgun sales, transfers
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BLACKHAWKNJ
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No doubt they'll set up toll-free phone lines, websites where you can anonymously denounce gun owners. Create a Surveillance and Snitch society.
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That’s what I suspected. But I was hoping Trudeau might think this out a bit and reason that allowing a sale to another country ride Canada of a handgun once and for all, and the mindset might be that’s just one less handgun in Canada.
I am surprised how rapidly this happened. One would think this would be effective on a certain date, such as 01 January 2023.
The individual who owns this revolver of interest to me indicated he would sell it to me if such a situation was realized in Canada. Neither he nor I realized the door would slam shut that quickly.
Not really true. Trudeau gamed the system. First he paid billions in covid stimulus to the Canadian mainstream media as an incentive to curb "disinformation" and they backed him with supporting propaganda. Then he forced an early election during the China flu lockdown. He lost seats but formed up a liberal government by joining up with the far left. Next Trudeau invoked emergency powers using covid as an excuse (to rid the capital of the truckers protest). He's using these same emergency powers to ban guns without any vote by Canadian Parliament.
Kinda like Biden using covid powers to grant student loan forgiveness without any vote of Congress.
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Close but not quite correct. The current changes are made with what’s called an Order In Council (OIC) which can be invoked at any time. It’s still not democratic, but it does not require any emergency powers to be invoked.
Not bad for a Yank, eh? I conflated the emergency powers with OIC because I never thought Canadians could be screwed so easily. What does one expect from Castro's son, right?
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Not bad at all! Another OIC was used in 2020 to ban AR15s and a few other models of rifles.
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It may ultimately end up being a good thing. From what I've read and watched, pretty much all the gun related crime in Canada is being committed with illegally possessed guns, most of which are smuggled into the country.
If a freeze on legal sales and transfers doesn't solve the gun related violence, it will be hard to deny that the problem lies elsewhere.
If a freeze on legal sales and transfers doesn't solve the gun related violence, it will be hard to deny that the problem lies elsewhere.
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The effective date had not been publicly announced.
That would be true if the government actually cared about doing the right thing instead of looking like they’re doing the right thing. What would most likely happen in the above case is that legally owned handguns would be confiscated.
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cops dont need authority when they see a crime in front of them. if you roll thru a stop sign they descend on you cause they see the "crime". they were scared of blm cause there were to many of them. they like the odds of 5-1 of them
And your press ignored the 'coincidence" whilst cheering Trudeau on. "He's such a brave, fearless leader!" Shaking my head for my Canuck brothers.
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Proving anything to a particular administration is utterly pointless. Proving to the voters that an administration's stance is wrong, is far more powerful.
You should pay closer attention to what's going with the abuse of executive and legislative powers in Canada, California, New Jersey, Illinois etc al. It could be coming to your hometown. Watch out for lame duck legislation in America after the November elections. Combo up Ukrainian aid with an assault rifle ban in an omnibus bill. It's a very real possibility.
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I've often thought that about our country. If we just gave up and said "Here, take'em," it would ultimately prove our point. But then I realized we still wouldn't get our rights back, sooooo...
bdickens
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The only problem gun control is aimed at solving is that of an armed citizenry who can fight back.
theotherwaldo
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Yep.
They don't seem to have any real problem with actual violent criminals having guns ... .
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Guys, I'm not saying it's a good thing. I'm just saying there may be a silver lining to a terrible idea. And let's also keep in mind that currently it's a freeze on sales and transfers (legal ones), not a permanent ban on all future sales and transfers, and certainly not a confiscation or a buyback.
Could it become worse? Sure. Could the voters realize that this effort does not address the issue? That's also a possibility.
And let's also consider that if Canada stops legal sales and transfers of handguns for a prolonged period of time (let's say 6 months or more), and it doesn't reduce gun related crime, that is real world data. We can then point to that data as evidence that restricting our rights and access to handguns here in the US, won't stop crime. It doesn't matter what you know, it's what you can prove that matters. Consider it a social experiment that Canada is conducting on our behalf.
Could it become worse? Sure. Could the voters realize that this effort does not address the issue? That's also a possibility.
And let's also consider that if Canada stops legal sales and transfers of handguns for a prolonged period of time (let's say 6 months or more), and it doesn't reduce gun related crime, that is real world data. We can then point to that data as evidence that restricting our rights and access to handguns here in the US, won't stop crime. It doesn't matter what you know, it's what you can prove that matters. Consider it a social experiment that Canada is conducting on our behalf.
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According to Wiki,
approx. 32 percent voted for Trudeau.
Such power-hungry manipulators never Want to respect citizens’ rights, whether regarding guns or anything else.
approx. 32 percent voted for Trudeau.
Such power-hungry manipulators never Want to respect citizens’ rights, whether regarding guns or anything else.
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But facts don't matter to leftists, only feelings do.
Didn't they have a rifle registration that was abandoned a few years ago because the numbers did not support the expense?
As if the leftists in power will release real numbers. As if the main stream media will report honestly. As if the leftist politicians will respect the results and change their vote. I think your assumptions are based in idealism and naivete.
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This, just like in the US is nothing more than Gov trying to subdue the opposition(Gun Owners). The left doesn't like the idea of a group or people that can defend themselves if the Gov is over reaching its power. They are not that stupid to think this will effect the crime rate in any way. Nothing the liberals do is what it seems, they use gun control as a vehicle for disarming the public, nothing more. If they really are trying to save lives, they wouldn't be fighting tooth and nail to keep the MURDER of millions of unborn baby's with abortion.
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