Charter 32HR 6 shot #73220

Good luck blue32. I give the replacement a 50/50 chance of being any better than what we've been experiencing.

blue32 said:

Light strikes on factory and handloads. Cylinder release seized twice and took a good amount of force to open. There's really not much else to say. My reviews on the previous gun sum up this one as well.

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So does $50 sound good? Lol.

Humor aside, I am sorry to hear you've had horrible results with the two guns Charter sent you and resent you. I had issues with my Professional, but since it got sent back to me it has been fine, but if I get a light strike I don't make a note of that because being a revolver, I just pull the trigger again.

TTv2 said:

So does $50 sound good? Lol.

Humor aside, I am sorry to hear you've had horrible results with the two guns Charter sent you and resent you. I had issues with my Professional, but since it got sent back to me it has been fine, but if I get a light strike I don't make a note of that because being a revolver, I just pull the trigger again.

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Maybe with a rimfire revolver firing bottom of the barrel bulk pack ammo, sure thing. But with expensive ammo in a self defense gun?

It's like turning a 6-shooter into a 5, or 4, or 3 shooter. Might as well just get a 2-shot derringer.

A centerfire defense gun should do better. Much better.

chicharrones said:

Maybe with a rimfire revolver firing bottom of the barrel bulk pack ammo, sure thing. But with expensive ammo in a self defense gun?

It's like turning a 6-shooter into a 5, or 4, or 3 shooter. Might as well just get a 2-shot derringer.

A centerfire defense gun should do better. Much better.

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Yea, if you cannot trust it then it’s refund time.

blue32 said:

Chicharrones, how is that unicorn you have holding up?

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I plan to take Tuesday morning off of work for a range outing with the Undercoverette and some .32 mag ammo. I’ll report back one way or another.

Edit: Arrrrgh. Work intervened. Going out of town again.

Had an interesting day at the range yesterday with the 32ett. Had the cylinder release screw come loose again after firing only 18 rounds of 32 mags. Had to tighten it back up several times but made it through 42 more rounds without locking up. Guess I'll have to take it apart and use some lock-tite on it. That wasn't the interesting part though. Every so often I could feel my arms getting peppered with hot gasses and figured it was just coming from the cylinder/barrel gap. Turned out to be pierced primers. Had it happen to 10 or more out of 60 rounds fired. These are some old stock PMC Russian primers I've been trying to use up. Don't recall having this happen with other primer brands in the 32ett but I haven't paid much attention either. I'll have to load up more with different primers to compare next week. Oh well, if it isn't one thing with this CA it's something else.

BC17A said:

Had the cylinder release screw come loose again after firing only 18 rounds of 32 mags. Had to tighten it back up several times but made it through 42 more rounds without locking up. Guess I'll have to take it apart and use some lock-tite on it.

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I suppose I'll need to do the same. I guess that means I'll be figuring out how to hold the release assembly together while getting the screw back in.

BC17A said:

That wasn't the interesting part though. Every so often I could feel my arms getting peppered with hot gasses and figured it was just coming from the cylinder/barrel gap. Turned out to be pierced primers. Had it happen to 10 or more out of 60 rounds fired. These are some old stock PMC Russian primers I've been trying to use up. Don't recall having this happen with other primer brands in the 32ett but I haven't paid much attention either. I'll have to load up more with different primers to compare next week. Oh well, if it isn't one thing with this CA it's something else.

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When I fired some S&B .32 ACP in my UCette, the primer strikes were substantially deeper than the revolver specific ammo I fired. So, a softer primer issue?

I know, I know . . . probably shouldn't fire ACP in my UCette, but I did and it all worked.

Finally have some confidence in my CaEtt. Earlier this week I disassembled and polished all the edges of the hand and cylinder release, then reassembled it using blue Loc-tite on all threads. Hit the range today and fired 90 full power 32 magnum loads without a single problem. Nothing came loose or locked up for the first time. Used Winchester primers and all strikes were strong in both DA and SA without any pierced or cracked. Had to nip a few thou more off the front sight and now it's grouping as close to point of aim as I'm capable of.

Finally! I took out the Undercoverette again today, firing two boxes of Black Hills .32 H&R Mag through it. For comparison, I also took a Ruger LCP Max I had recently purchased for breaking in.

I gotta say, before today's range session I was seeing the Undercoverette being replaced by the Max before the Undercoverette even spent time being carried. It turns out the Max's only advantage is 10+1 rounds, which isn't to be ignored. But the Max is a fairly brutal little shooter and much harder to hit the mark with consistently. The better sights on the Max didn't make up for anything, with my eyesight anyway.

The Undercoverette on the other hand is a natural pointer and hits the target much more easily. Which is really something considering the DAO condition and "lesser" sights of my Undercoverette.

Of course all that means squat if the guns don't perform. Thankfully, both guns functioned flawlessly. I'll get them on the cleaning schedule this weekend and check them further. One of them was kicking out thin black slivers of something, and I think it was the Max. Or the ammo. Not sure yet.

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Spent Saturday out in the reloading shed making up some recipes for Sunday morning.

Made up 12 100grn Speer JSP with 11grn of lil Gun powder, magnum SPP.
For a .32, the recoil wasn’t bad, but you can definitely tell it was fired.
Muzzle blast was beyond loud!
The chrono read 1200fps on all but 1(1212).


Made up 12 83grn HBWC with 2.9grn Universal powder, very easy to shoot. Those were 900fps.
Absolutely love this revolver.

Steel Hayes said:

Spent Saturday out in the reloading shed making up some recipes for Sunday morning.
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Made up 12 100grn Speer JSP with 11grn of lil Gun powder, magnum SPP.
For a .32, the recoil wasn’t bad, but you can definitely tell it was fired.
Muzzle blast was beyond loud!
The chrono read 1200fps on all but 1(1212).

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Made up 12 83grn HBWC with 2.9grn Universal powder, very easy to shoot. Those were 900fps.
Absolutely love this revolver.
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Knock that 100gr. slug down to about 1,000fps and I think you'll have a real winner.

Steel Hayes said:

Spent Saturday out in the reloading shed making up some recipes for Sunday morning.
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Made up 12 100grn Speer JSP with 11grn of lil Gun powder, magnum SPP.
For a .32, the recoil wasn’t bad, but you can definitely tell it was fired.
Muzzle blast was beyond loud!
The chrono read 1200fps on all but 1(1212).

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Made up 12 83grn HBWC with 2.9grn Universal powder, very easy to shoot. Those were 900fps.
Absolutely love this revolver.
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That Speer Hollow point will expand anywhere North of 850 FPS. Like @JERRY mentioned keep it around 1000 fps for a sweet load.

JERRY said:

Knock that 100gr. slug down to about 1,000fps and I think you'll have a real winner.

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I agree, 1200fps was a bit much.
I’m going to try the expansion in my homemade gel this weekend.

chicharrones said:

...For comparison, I also took a Ruger LCP Max I had recently purchased for breaking in.

I gotta say, before today's range session I was seeing the Undercoverette being replaced by the Max before the Undercoverette even spent time being carried. It turns out the Max's only advantage is 10+1 rounds, which isn't to be ignored. But the Max is a fairly brutal little shooter and much harder to hit the mark with consistently. The better sights on the Max didn't make up for anything, with my eyesight anyway...

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I had the same experience. Bought an LCP Max thinking this would be a good do-all EDC gun, but shooting it was a disappointment. Rather poorly made, and designed to appeal to the lowest common demoninator as a bullet launcher. Grossly inaccurate, doesn't shoot to the sights, god-awful trigger and a hard kicking gun for a light calibre. Eight-inch groups @ 50 feet were typical, which is far below my standards. The nice sights belie the underlying fail. Got rid of it in short order.

Stuck with the Undercoverette and all is good.